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gorillanismo 11-10-2010 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCal 370Z (Post 803495)
:iagree:

We'll see more tickled-down features that are already offered in other parts of the world for the succeeding year models. We may be seeing the last of the Z in its form today, and making a competing Z for tomorrow's entails an entirely different Z.

yeah, it could be like that...

but I cant believe that they will gonna kill the Z, Z is an icon, and is the only true sports car (excluding STi & Evo) that the japanese market are producing...

gorillanismo 11-10-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 803540)
A new gen silvia has been rumored for awhile and I think this Juke is the test crowd for it all.
4 banger DI TT, in an vehicle that weights 3,000 pounds. Now all Nissan has to do is either up it to a 1.8 or 2.0L engine and they are golden. Even if they end up keeping it around 3,000 pounds (which I doubt), it will still be a great RWD car.

I think that the juke is an experiment of a few new projects, a Turbo Sentra that can compete with MazdaSpeed3, Caliber SRT4, GTI Turbo, (aparently Ford plans to take out a Fiesta Turbo)... other project are the Z and the third is the Silvia...

SoCal 370Z 11-10-2010 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillanismo (Post 804162)
yeah, it could be like that...

but I cant believe that they will gonna kill the Z, Z is an icon, and is the only true sports car (excluding STi & Evo) that the japanese market are producing...

I don't believe Nissan will kill it, but the Z could be in for a long hiatus. All we need is an oil embargo to bring Z sales to a halt. Most vehicle manufacturers are retooling for tomorrow's world (about time) and these lost leader vehicles are not a priority. Hey, enjoy your Z while you can...and as long as you can.

370zproject 11-10-2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by gorillanismo (Post 804177)
I think that the juke is an experiment of a few new projects, a Turbo Sentra that can compete with MazdaSpeed3, Caliber SRT4, GTI Turbo, (aparently Ford plans to take out a Fiesta Turbo)... other project are the Z and the third is the Silvia...

mm silvia

Dark_Sub_Rosa 11-10-2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 803525)
i'd be more willing to accept the idea of a possible successor to the 240sx/silvia in the form of a 250sx either powered by the QR25 sentra/altima engine or the new 2.5L v6 (is it a VQ? i think it is...) from the G25. the Z will probably get direct injection soon, possibly as a mid generation update. either that or in the next gen ("Z35")

The Z isn't getting an update with DI anywhere remotely soon. That would be a huge overhaul that Nissan isn't going to put the money into. The days of the manual are slowly dying and along with that are the pure sports cars. It's shitty and no car fanatic wants to accept it but vehicles like the Z are a dying breed. I have a ton of friends at Corporate headquarters and it's scary to hear how lucky we are there is even a Z to begin with right now.

wh!plash 11-10-2010 06:35 PM

All I can say is I test drove an AWD Juke last weekend. Honestly it surprised me how peppy it felt. For the price/performance/mileage of that thing, I gotta say I like where things are going for the daily driver.

Cmike2780 11-10-2010 06:46 PM

Even though the Z is closely heading towards a niche market, Nissan will want to keep it around for a while as it shares a lot of components with it's sister car, the G coupe. If you combine their sales, i'm assuming its stall a profitable platform. Who know, maybe a electric motor assist could be in the future like the effeciantdynamics from BMW or the hybrid from Porsche.

jakoye 11-10-2010 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by wh!plash (Post 804762)
All I can say is I test drove an AWD Juke last weekend. Honestly it surprised me how peppy it felt. For the price/performance/mileage of that thing, I gotta say I like where things are going for the daily driver.

I'd never even heard of the Juke before. Looks like a Rav4 competitor?

So why can't Nissan just make a bigger version of this engine for the next Z? Seems like since they've already done it, it wouldn't be *that* hard?

Dark_Sub_Rosa 11-10-2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cmike2780 (Post 804772)
Even though the Z is closely heading towards a niche market, Nissan will want to keep it around for a while as it shares a lot of components with it's sister car, the G coupe. If you combine their sales, i'm assuming its stall a profitable platform. Who know, maybe a electric motor assist could be in the future like the effeciantdynamics from BMW or the hybrid from Porsche.



I see something like this being way more likely than any boosted version. I'm sure they'll continue to sell them, all the tooling and work is done now, they just produce and sell. I just don't think we'll be seeing anything as soon as we saw the 350 to 370 jump. The G is pretty profitable for them I would think more so than the Z. I'm sure they aren't just bleeding money on Z sales but probably not making a ton either.

murphman 11-10-2010 07:37 PM

here is your larger 4 banger in a coupe

Nissan/Infiniti News Room

sonic370 11-10-2010 07:41 PM

i look at it like this. the z is now an icon for nissian if it wasn't an important
part of the company they never would have re done the 370..

there is a market for a 35 to 45 grand two seater and nissan imho owns it..

the same way chevy has kept the vette around for over 50 years its part of their brand....

if chevy can make a 450-500 hp car... the next z has to have at least 375-400 hp. if for no other reason to keep the 5.0 and camaro in site...

imo right know in the US those cars set the bar

FL 4Motion 11-10-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sonic370 (Post 804867)
i look at it like this. the z is now an icon for nissian if it wasn't an important
part of the company they never would have re done the 370..

there is a market for a 35 to 45 grand two seater and nissan imho owns it..

the same way chevy has kept the vette around for over 50 years its part of their brand....

if chevy can make a 450-500 hp car... the next z has to have at least 375-400 hp. if for no other reason to keep the 5.0 and camaro in site...

imo right know in the US those cars set the bar

/\ I agree with this. The Z is an iconic car for nissan going back to 1969. It's their affordable sports car. I don't see it going away, but I think we'll def see some sort of hybrid type drive in it at some point, perhaps as early as the Z35, ie. DI w/brake energy regeneration, mild hybrid type drive assist.

I'd love to see a 3.0 DI turbo w/brake force energy regeneration (or whatever it's called) making 400hp in the next Z, but we'll see.

Nissan won't put a v8 in the Z b/c it's traditionally always been a 6 banger. Same reason that the GTR won't see one eithter, it's always been a 6 or turbo 6 banger. Not too mention that the v8 is going the way of the dodo bird with increasing fuel efficiency standards all around.

MC can probably elaborate, but the racing GTR's that currently utilize a v8 are doing so either to accomodate the racing body rulebook or b/c an N/A motor is more reliable in endurance racing events.

tjlazer 11-10-2010 08:49 PM

The X in 300ZX as for "Luxury" not Turbo.

With that said, I would love a 380Z TT! :)

Jamaica 11-11-2010 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by tjlazer (Post 804959)
The X in 300ZX as for "Luxury" not Turbo.

With that said, I would love a 380Z TT! :)

350 to 370 to 380?

you really think 380 is next? should be interesting whats next.

StealthZ 11-11-2010 06:25 AM

I don't want to see whats next... only because I'll go buy one ;)


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