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theDreamer 11-09-2010 02:19 PM
Eh, but the Z still competes very well with the GT or Camaro on the curves, right after the new Z comes out the Camaro or GT will beat it slightly (the way of the game).
The Z has always been compared to Porsche first, not the 911s but a cheaper alternative to the Cayman.

Jamaica 11-09-2010 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 802930)
Well if they do the 3.8TT then VVEL is out the door I think.
If they could do the 3.8TT around a manual transmission I think they could do it for a 10k price increase and it will keep the maintenance down for the average joe.

Then the only questions is, what do they do with the GTR...V8TT? :tup:
If they do the GTR V8TT thats a whole different ball game.

theDreamer 11-09-2010 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jamaica951 (Post 802952)
If they do the GTR V8TT thats a whole different ball game.
Exactly, but after the slight revision with the V6TT they are doing and how the racing GT-R uses a V8 it would be a great move.

Jamaica 11-09-2010 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 802959)
Exactly, but after the slight revision with the V6TT they are doing and how the racing GT-R uses a V8 it would be a great move.
but how much weight would be added on if the GTR gets the V8 motor

GZ3 11-09-2010 02:29 PM
^^ shouldnt be that much more! if i remember reading somewhere the LS1 weighed as much as the 350z 3.5 liter vq35de...if they really wanted they could...will they..hm,mmmm

gorillanismo 11-09-2010 02:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 802930)
Well if they do the 3.8TT then VVEL is out the door I think.
If they could do the 3.8TT around a manual transmission I think they could do it for a 10k price increase and it will keep the maintenance down for the average joe.

Then the only questions is, what do they do with the GTR...V8TT? :tup:
good point but I dont think so

thats why i said turn the Z in a 3.0L DI Turbo 6spd. and left the GTR right there because is doing a great job!

theDreamer 11-09-2010 02:32 PM
Well the GT-R using the V8 weights under 3000lbs so I would assume the engine must not be much different in weight.

gorillanismo 11-09-2010 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by theDreamer (Post 802942)
Eh, but the Z still competes very well with the GT or Camaro on the curves, right after the new Z comes out the Camaro or GT will beat it slightly (the way of the game).
The Z has always been compared to Porsche first, not the 911s but a cheaper alternative to the Cayman.
yeah, my bad, I refer in drag (vs. domestics), here it needs a bump...
in curves Z is doing a good job...

Jamaica 11-09-2010 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gorillanismo (Post 802979)
good point but I dont think so

thats why i said turn the Z in a 3.0L DI Turbo 6spd. and left the GTR right there because is doing a great job!
could be a good idea

gorillanismo 11-09-2010 02:42 PM
if they can do it (3.0L DI Turbo) weighting 3300 lbs. with 375 bhp...

thats gonna be a rocket!!!!

flashburn 11-09-2010 07:26 PM
I'd be at the dealer pre-ordering one the second it's possible if they delivered spec's like that.

Dark_Sub_Rosa 11-09-2010 08:24 PM
We'll be lucky if they make another Z at this point, much less a boosted one.

SoCal 370Z 11-09-2010 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark_Sub_Rosa (Post 803487)
We'll be lucky if they make another Z at this point, much less a boosted one.
:iagree:

We'll see more tickled-down features that are already offered in other parts of the world for the succeeding year models. We may be seeing the last of the Z in its form today, and making a competing Z for tomorrow's entails an entirely different Z.

HKYStormFront 11-09-2010 08:52 PM
i'd be more willing to accept the idea of a possible successor to the 240sx/silvia in the form of a 250sx either powered by the QR25 sentra/altima engine or the new 2.5L v6 (is it a VQ? i think it is...) from the G25. the Z will probably get direct injection soon, possibly as a mid generation update. either that or in the next gen ("Z35")

theDreamer 11-09-2010 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by HKYStormFront (Post 803525)
i'd be more willing to accept the idea of a possible successor to the 240sx/silvia in the form of a 250sx either powered by the QR25 sentra/altima engine or the new 2.5L v6 (is it a VQ? i think it is...) from the G25. the Z will probably get direct injection soon, possibly as a mid generation update. either that or in the next gen ("Z35")
A new gen silvia has been rumored for awhile and I think this Juke is the test crowd for it all.
4 banger DI TT, in an vehicle that weights 3,000 pounds. Now all Nissan has to do is either up it to a 1.8 or 2.0L engine and they are golden. Even if they end up keeping it around 3,000 pounds (which I doubt), it will still be a great RWD car.


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