Official '11 Mustang GT vs 370z Thread

[Shamu]

Originally Posted by GZ3

dont nismos weigh around 3300? i weighed my 5.0 on accurate scales with out the spare tire and tools n half of tank of gas and it weigh 3512

212 pounds is not soooooo much lol

about gas mileage its pretty good for a V8

Nope weighed my Nismo and it was 3186 lbs on accurate scales with no spare and no tools about 1/2 tank of gas. I have no idea where the they got 3300 lbs for Nismo? Weighed it again during corner balance with full tank of gas and it was 3210 lbs? So even my "porky" Nismo is over 300 lbs less.

And while I know on street ithe moose-tang is ok on MPg I suspect it is very thirsty on the track.

And dudes my Chevy Crew cab work truck with v8 4.8 liter gets 17 mpg with mixed city and highway, it gets nearly 20 when doing hwy Lol! Leave it to Chevy to beat Mustang gas mileage with a huge truck. My Nismo is over 20 mpg combined and over 26 Hwy MPG..... but as I had said on track I suspect your V8 mustangs are terrible. They aren't the most efficient race cars.

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by Shamu

Nope weighed my Nismo and it was 3186 lbs on accurate scales with no spare and no tools about 1/2 tank of gas. I have no idea where the they got 3300 lbs for Nismo? Weighed it again during corner balance with full tank of gas and it was 3210 lbs? So even my "porky" Nismo is over 300 lbs less.

300#=30whp. Not even close. As proven before, a stock mustang on chicken-legs handles nearly as well as a 370Z, and the BOSS tears it to pieces.

And while I know on street ithe moose-tang is ok on MPg I suspect it is very thirsty on the track.

That's because it makes another 100whp and 120+rwtq.

And dudes my Chevy Crew cab work truck with v8 4.8 liter gets 17 mpg with mixed city and highway, it gets nearly 20 when doing hwy Lol! Leave it to Chevy to beat Mustang gas mileage with a huge truck. My Nismo is over 20 mpg combined and over 26 Hwy MPG..... but as I had said on track I suspect your V8 mustangs are terrible. They aren't the most efficient race cars.
Trade that Z in for an S2000 so you can talk about hp/L.

Mustang...a "race car"?

[Davey]

Now we're talking about gas mileage and "MPG on the track"?

If the gas cost is the concern, you sure as hell can't afford the tires and brake pads and the paint damage from ending up in the gravel trap.

I suppose if you're talking about performance in road race/track events that require a pit stop it's relevant but now we're about a thousand miles from the concerns of 99% of the buyers of both cars.

To that point... Of the small percentage of people who will do more than drive it to work or go out cruising, the majority will be doing:

- Drag race
- Autocross
- HPDE

I'm sure a pro in a well-set-up Camry SE could probably mop the floor with most drivers of either a 370Z or a Mustang GT in any road racing contests, so really what we are concerned with here is factory setups being used for things most of the buyers will never do anyway, and which, if the car were actually used for that, would never use the factory setup anyway, i.e. "******** magazine racing."

I'm sure there are a few drivers who actually race both cars. I'm sure they can both do very well. But, for most buyers, getting all caught up in this "which car turned a faster lap at Laguna Seca" is kind of retarded, because as much as we all like to think of ourselves as little Mario Andretti's, most of us would be getting passed by a good driver in half the car, or going into a wall at the first turn.

[Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Davey

as much as we all like to think of ourselves as little Mario Andretti's, most of us would be getting passed by a good driver in half the car,

[Shamu]

I think consumable expenses at track are a real consideration. if you are burning through tires, fuel and pads twice as fast as a Z Especially with sky high fuel prices and increasing cost of tires. I don't see average Mustang buyer being someone who isn't going to be concerned about running expenses. Just a realistic consideration for An active track day driver.

The extra weight the porky Mustang GT packs mostly up front is an issue for tire wear and overall handling. I do know a guy who works on ford suspension team and he even admits the v6 mustang with same suspension package as GT handles much better and turns suprizingly fast lap times on Ford test track.

Just watch lap times at VIR Grand Am race as Mustangs start to overheat their tires as time goes on in the race. Their lap times will degrade and other cars will be closer to them.

[cossie1600]

Originally Posted by Shamu

I think consumable expenses at track are a real consideration. if you are burning through tires, fuel and pads twice as fast as a Z Especially with sky high fuel prices and increasing cost of tires. I don't see average Mustang buyer being someone who isn't going to be concerned about running expenses. Just a realistic consideration for An active track day driver.

The extra weight the porky Mustang GT packs mostly up front is an issue for tire wear and overall handling. I do know a guy who works on ford suspension team and he even admits the v6 mustang with same suspension package as GT handles much better and turns suprizingly fast lap times on Ford test track.

Just watch lap times at VIR Grand Am race as Mustangs start to overheat their tires as time goes on in the race. Their lap times will degrade and other cars will be closer to them.

you are really pushing it. while the mustang will consumer more of everything, but the z is no mr.lean. i dont know how the mustang does on track, but 370 is only good for 6 to 7mpg. the 285 30 19 or 18s arent cheap.

[Marcus Ryan]

Originally Posted by cossie1600

you are really pushing it. while the mustang will consumer more of everything, but the z is no mr.lean. i dont know how the mustang does on track, but 370 is only good for 6 to 7mpg. the 285 30 19 or 18s arent cheap.

Also have to throw in the oil cooler too.

Which was a bitch the first time I took it out and didn't have it.