Official '11 Mustang GT vs 370z Thread

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Car and Driver is notorious for not having the most skilled people behind the wheel at lightning lap.

So what you are telling me is that the GT500's transmission is so difficult to shift correctly that people who make a living thrashing sports cars cannot properly do it, albeit they can shift plenty of other car's transmissions just fine, including the GT's?

At the VERY LEAST, you are saying the base performance model is a better drive transmission-wise than the top-dog.

Fail.

Any way you slice it.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

So what you are telling me is that the GT500's transmission is so difficult to shift correctly that people who make a living thrashing sports cars cannot properly do it, albeit they can shift plenty of other car's transmissions just fine, including the GT's?

At the VERY LEAST, you are saying the base performance model is a better drive transmission-wise than the top-dog.

Fail.

Any way you slice it.

I think you're reading too much into their off hand remark about grinding.

It is generally true that higher power cars are harder to shift. The GT500 will have a tougher transmission to handle just by virtue of the broad power band.

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I think you're reading too much into their off hand remark about grinding.

It is generally true that higher power cars are harder to shift. The GT500 will have a tougher transmission to handle just by virtue of the broad power band.

Funny. Nothing was said about the CTS-V's TR6060 being tough to shift. In fact, the only mention of shifting in that review was how nicely the pedals were laid out for heel/toe.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Funny. Nothing was said about the CTS-V's TR6060 being tough to shift. In fact, the only mention of shifting in that review was how nicely the pedals were laid out for heel/toe.

Well, since we are taking C&D LL reports as gospel (which is laughable, since half those test drivers don't have a clue what they are doing)



We were also impressed by the car’s relatively neutral midcorner behavior and its brakes, which could stop a runaway locomotive. Say it with us now: If only the seats were more supportive and the shifter a little more cooperative

I think this is clear evidence that we all need to run screaming away from the uncooperative Z06 shifter.

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Well, since we are taking C&D LL reports as gospel (which is laughable, since half those test drivers don't have a clue what they are doing)



We were also impressed by the car’s relatively neutral midcorner behavior and its brakes, which could stop a runaway locomotive. Say it with us now: If only the seats were more supportive and the shifter a little more cooperative

I think this is clear evidence that we all need to run screaming away from the uncooperative Z06 shifter.

I figured you would bring that up, but uncooperative can mean many things, and they are talking about the SHIFTER. That's an easy fix. People on the forums have tried replacing the shifter in the GT500 and the grind remains. Grinding is an internal problem with the transmission regarding the GT500.

Besides, who knows WHAT they were trying to do with that poor shifter. They didn't say. You might not have cooperated either!

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

I figured you would bring that up, but uncooperative can mean many things, and they are talking about the SHIFTER. That's an easy fix. People on the forums have tried replacing the shifter in the GT500 and the grind remains. Grinding is an internal problem with the transmission regarding the GT500.

Grinding can be an internal problem, or a drivers problem.

I don't disagree that the GT500 is a PITA the shift when driven hard, but it is kind of the be expected with a car like that.

The problem is, most people try to slam the car from gear to gear at redline without understanding what is happening in the transmission, which is what causes the grind. I can create that same grind in a Z06 without much trouble. I can also easily create it in my Z. The GT500 happens to have a really broad power range, and a particularly unknowledgeable customer base.

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Grinding can be an internal problem, or a drivers problem.

I don't disagree that the GT500 is a PITA the shift when driven hard, but it is kind of the be expected with a car like that.

The problem is, most people try to slam the car from gear to gear at redline without understanding what is happening in the transmission, which is what causes the grind. I can create that same grind in a Z06 without much trouble. I can also easily create it in my Z. The GT500 happens to have a really broad power range, and a particularly unknowledgeable customer base.

Don't rush it!

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Grinding can be an internal problem, or a drivers problem.

I don't disagree that the GT500 is a PITA the shift when driven hard, but it is kind of the be expected with a car like that.

The problem is, most people try to slam the car from gear to gear at redline without understanding what is happening in the transmission, which is what causes the grind. I can create that same grind in a Z06 without much trouble. I can also easily create it in my Z. The GT500 happens to have a really broad power range, and a particularly unknowledgeable customer base.

So what is your method of not causing the grind in the GT500? People are already trying all sorts of stuff. Making sure the clutch pedal is on the metal, pulling the shifter toward them and back into 2nd, at a "diagonal", etc.