Official '11 Mustang GT vs 370z Thread

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Vast majority or not, if you go to ANY GT500 forum you will find a "Hey, new here, my trans. grinds on 1-2 shifts at high rpm" post in the first 2 pages if not on the first.

You won't find that anywhere else. If it were just whining, the Viper and 'Vette forum would have the same issue. They don't. 'Vette owners are probably the pickest, too, as a whole.

EDIT:

Just tried it. This was on page 2: http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/ind...nd-parts-list/

EDIT #2: Tried it again. Top of page 2 has this: 2010 2011 gt500 1-2 shift problem Poll - SVTPerformance

The only times you will find this on the 'vette forum are when people complain about it being notchy when cold (nature of a manual), or are talking about a pre' 2009 car before they revised the synchro's.

They used to be on every first page of our forums, and from my time on the Vette forums, there were a lot of those posts when the Z06 first came out.

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

They used to be on every first page of our forums, and from my time on the Vette forums, there were a lot of those posts when the Z06 first came out.

Like I said, pre '09. GM fixed the issue to where the 'vette's only grind comes from normal frequency of parts failure, which is to say, any car can have a problem, but it's not the norm.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

Like I said, pre '09. GM fixed the issue to where the 'vette's only grind comes from normal frequency of parts failure, which is to say, any car can have a problem, but it's not the norm.

Yeah, but by the time the car has been out for years, there tend to be less idiots positing up about the driver related problem.


Here is what the discussion looks like when more knowledgeable people talk about the funky cold performance.

Do you remember all the guys trying to lemon law the car due to the trans in the early Z06?

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Yeah, but by the time the car has been out for years, there tend to be less idiots positing up about the driver related problem.


Here is what the discussion looks like when more knowledgeable people talk about the funky cold performance.

Do you remember all the guys trying to lemon law the car due to the trans in the early Z06?

The GT500 has been out for how long now?

Also, how many synchro-revisions for the same transmission has Ford managed? I count...Zero. Even though they have a problem with fully warmed up transmissions.

That is one of the main reasons I abandoned my thoughts about getting a GT500, along with inadequate suspension for the power involved.

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I caught it after the edit.

I was really surprised about the weight of those mufflers. Wasn't expecting it to hurt so much when it came down and hit me. They weigh 44 lbs a piece.

On the GT!?

Maybe Ford is hearkening back to the fox-body 5.0 and it's exhaust system, lol. Cats are more efficient now, so the only way to get that sense of late 80's heft is with a muffler that means business!

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

The GT500 has been out for how long now?

It's gone through more of a revival performance-wise (at least in the minds of buyers). The impulsive idiots only buy cars they're hearing about through other sources.

I guarantee the new Boss will "have" like a million transmission issues due to this crowd.

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

I guarantee the new Boss will "have" like a million transmission issues due to this crowd.

See my post above.

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

See my post above.

Normally, I might agree, but even the media says the GT500's driveline has an issue. The last Lightning Lap C&D article mentioned grind specifically. It did it very candidly, though, including it in the GT's section. Here you go:

The GT’s shifter—unlike the GT500’s—is never too quick, never induces grinding, and is light enough in hand that missing a shift is a rare event.

Lightning Lap 2011: LL2 Class - Feature - Car and Driver

If their drivers can't shift right, what hope do any of us have? K.C. COLWELL, MARK GILLIES, TONY QUIROGA, AND DAVE VANDERWERP are not exactly "nubs".

[m4a1mustang]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

Yeah, but by the time the car has been out for years, there tend to be less idiots positing up about the driver related problem.

It usually works like this (Especially for affordable cars like the Z and Mustang):

New model is introduced.

Media raves about said model.

Bunch of nubs buy the car.

Bunch of nubs complain about car.

Media reports on complaints.

Time passes and things die down. Nubs either learn or leave.

Car gets cheap in the used markets, punk kids enter the market and ruin everything.

Rinse and repeat.

[Red__Zed]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

It usually works like this (Especially for affordable cars like the Z and Mustang):

New model is introduced.

Media raves about said model.

Bunch of nubs buy the car.

Bunch of nubs complain about car.

Media reports on complaints.

Time passes and things die down. Nubs either learn or leave.

Car gets cheap in the used markets, punk kids enter the market and ruin everything.

Rinse and repeat.

Pretty much. I watched the same crap happen with the S.