Official '11 Mustang GT vs 370z Thread

[perauto]

Originally Posted by Shamu

I used to think the 370Z was a big car until I saw it next to a Mustang like in the picture I posted above. Makes you realize your really dealing with two differnt classes of cars. One a medium size sporty sedan from Ford and the other a sports car from Nissan. Its a wonder that the Mustangs do as well as they do on track. They just look so big and clumsy in comparison.

When you look at manual tranny Mustang GT they weigh just over 3600 lbs with a 54/46 weight distribution. Thats a lot of weight over the front end. Ford has done good job taming all that weight on smooth surfaces. Not so much when things start to get twisty and bumpy.

Both cars have their places. I see Mustang as more of a Summer cruiser and drag race car and 370Z as more of an enthusiast drivers car.

Actually they are heavy cars our car's current race weight with driver and 1/2 tank of fuel is 3650 Lbs and we hold the AI track record at VIR.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by perauto

Actually they are heavy cars our car's current race weight with driver and 1/2 tank of fuel is 3650 Lbs and we hold the AI track record at VIR.

Nice

[GZ3]

Originally Posted by Shamu

I used to think the 370Z was a big car until I saw it next to a Mustang like in the picture I posted above. Makes you realize your really dealing with two differnt classes of cars. One a medium size sporty sedan from Ford and the other a sports car from Nissan. Its a wonder that the Mustangs do as well as they do on track. They just look so big and clumsy in comparison.

When you look at manual tranny Mustang GT they weigh just over 3600 lbs with a 54/46 weight distribution. Thats a lot of weight over the front end. Ford has done good job taming all that weight on smooth surfaces. Not so much when things start to get twisty and bumpy.

Both cars have their places. I see Mustang as more of a Summer cruiser and drag race car and 370Z as more of an enthusiast drivers car.

having own 5 350Z's over a span of 6 years, a 370Z for a year, a miata for 3 years and now a my first American car bieng a 5.0, and being an avid track head,...i can tell you with all certainty and experience that the 5.0 is on par in the handling department. Am not just some troll here trying to dismiss or discount the 370Z or inflate the 5.0...infact i cant think of a single thing a 370Z can do better than the 5.0...am sorry ....its a great car....with a stiff suspension and tires this thing is going to be NASTY...and if they lose a bit of weight and IRS....there will never be a reason to buy a Z anymore

[shadoquad]

Originally Posted by GZ3

IRS....

Never happen. I think they're proving right now that they don't need one.

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by GZ3

....there will never be a reason to buy a Z anymore

That's assuming the Z stays the same forever. There's a chance that Nissan could try and make it a lot better. Might not be a huge probability any time soon, but still there nonetheless.

[m4a1mustang]

You discount the Mustang's capabilities a little too much, but of course that's your opinion. If it wasn't an engaging driver's car I wouldn't have traded my Z for one. Highway cruiser? No way. Sedan? Please.

The Brembo GTs, and especially the Boss models, are at home on some twisty back roads. Yeah it might not move quite like a 370Z does but you'll look awfully foolish if you think you can just up and walk away from one in the twisties.

We'll see what happens at VIR.

[m4a1mustang]

If there's one thing we should all learn from The Bieb, it's:

[b1adesofcha0s]

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

If there's one thing we should all learn from The Bieb, it's:

[andrewkd16]

i have no problem beating new gt's or new ss/2ss actually kinda slow cars for the money and what say. the only new mustang that has beat me is my buddys 10' gt rousch and it was by no means walking on me or anything beat me maybe a half i was right on his window with my nose. so imo i can buy a z and do whatever tt/sc and will be way faster and cheaper price.

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by andrewkd16

i have no problem beating new gt's or new ss/2ss actually kinda slow cars for the money and what say. the only new mustang that has beat me is my buddys 10' gt rousch and it was by no means walking on me or anything beat me maybe a half i was right on his window with my nose. so imo i can buy a z and do whatever tt/sc and will be way faster and cheaper price.

This sounds all sorts of contradictory.

First, what kind of Rousch is it?
Second, what mods do you have?
Third, are you sure you are racing 5.0's and not 4.6's?

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by andrewkd16

i have no problem beating new gt's or new ss/2ss actually kinda slow cars for the money and what say. the only new mustang that has beat me is my buddys 10' gt rousch and it was by no means walking on me or anything beat me maybe a half i was right on his window with my nose. so imo i can buy a z and do whatever tt/sc and will be way faster and cheaper price.

well, it is actually impossible for a nismo or sports PKG 370z to beat a camaro SS or 11 GT. in a straight line. you put professionals in both cars and the results will be the same each time. the SS is not that much faster, the mustang is faster. stock VS stock. unless you are modded that changes the ball game

but if your car is stock you do not know what you are talking about plain and simple. just because you beat some average drivers in your Z you think the Z is faster.....

[ImportConvert]

Originally Posted by mikeSS

well, it is actually impossible for a nismo or sports PKG 370z to beat a camaro SS or 11 GT. in a straight line. you put professionals in both cars and the results will be the same each time. the SS is not that much faster, the mustang is faster. stock VS stock. unless you are modded that changes the ball game

but if your car is stock you do not know what you are talking about plain and simple. just because you beat some average drivers in your Z you think the Z is faster.....

The Z might be close to a SS. I have seen Youtubes of them racing and the SS slowly creeps, so put a driver in the wrong gear and the Z might win. I know I raced a 265whp 350Z (full bolt-ons/tune) in my WS6 and only put 2 cars on it 60-120, and have raced numerous '10 SS's in my WS6 and it was dead-even every time. The Z and the SS are driver's race with the edge going to the SS.

I sold my WS6 before I got a crack and a 5.0, though, or a 370Z. Sad about those 2 things.

[mikeSS]

Originally Posted by ImportConvert

T. The Z and the SS are driver's race with the edge going to the SS.

fair enough. but that other guy is saying he is beating SS no problem which is BS

[Davey]

Originally Posted by Red__Zed

The Z isn't far off from those numbers though. IIRC, it's is like 3300 with a 53/47.

3260-ish with the touring package, a little less without.

300+ pounds is "not far off"? Come on man, that's huge. Next you'll be saying that a couple of tenths in the quarter mile is just a couple of tenths.

[baldie]

Originally Posted by andrewkd16

i have no problem beating new gt's or new ss/2ss actually kinda slow cars for the money and what say. the only new mustang that has beat me is my buddys 10' gt rousch and it was by no means walking on me or anything beat me maybe a half i was right on his window with my nose. so imo i can buy a z and do whatever tt/sc and will be way faster and cheaper price.

You probably think the 2010 GTs are the new 2011 ones huh? They may look the same, but are completely different. Either that, or you're just a bs'er. I've ran my brothers 40th 370z with bolt-ons the other night and he lost every time(I'm still stock).