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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1073122)

Apparently cops don't make enough money, because she should be driving a Corvette. oh well, there's still time.

:roflpuke2: jk

Associating cars with one group or another is pretty silly.

Admittedly, I make a lot of "mustang is for rednecks" jokes, but it's just me being silly.

It's just funny to me because I am the antithesis of all of the jokes you make, which are always hilarious. :bowrofl:

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1072784)

The Grand Am series shows just how good of a track car the Mustang can be. It, along with the M3s, are dominating this year. If you haven't seen much of it might surprise you a bit.

I agree with a lot of your points, many are ones I have made in the countless 370 vs. 5.0 debates. I'm not sure what Mustang you drove, base suspension or Brembo package, but in either case the stock shocks/struts are the limiting factor on the stock suspension. You'd probably be really surprised at how much a difference a proper set of shocks/struts or coils will make on one of these cars. I'd venture to guess you'd be pretty pleased with the feel of a Brembo package 5.0 on Koni yellows and Steeda sport springs... much better control. I'd actually be pretty interested in your thoughts on the Boss if you get a chance to get behind the wheel of one on track.

But that's really beyond the point. It's still not going to "feel" like a sports car because like you said, it really isn't. It might put down the numbers and get lumped into that sports car performance category, but it won't feel quite like a Z or a Cayman.

It's a different driving experience and it all comes down to preference, like you said. I'm just glad there are still people out there willing to discuss this kind of stuff maturely!

I do suspect the 2014 redesign will be somewhat of a game changer. If what Ford is saying is right, we're looking at a smaller, lighter (250lbs or more) Mustang with a direct-injected 5.0 and IRS. Should be interesting.

I know a guy on the Ford SUspension team who works on Mustang development. They have come a long way and they do get to several tracks to test setups including Laguna Seca. But they still are over coming overly front weight baised car with a single axle. Dont get me wrong its a great car but dynamically its a bit porky. Any doubts? Just watch Mustang come over corkscrew at Laguna Seca. Its not pretty.

The Z while nose heavy is much more composed. Yes the tons of money thrown at Mustang Grand Am cars have cured some of the ills but they still get real ugly to drive when you get into features where elevation changes quickly in a turn. Drivers have to "billy bob" the cars a bit. On tecnical tracks mustangs can be a handful.

Watch the VIR race this May. I think the Mustangs will have a new freind. AM Performance team has really done a great job of sorting out their 370Z race car. Found this video of a LS1 V8 powered Miata race car chasing them during testing at a local race. Look at how rock solid the Z is in and out of turns. While both BMW and Miata have more power the braking and in turn dymamics of the Z are far better. Also impressive as the Z is on hard skinny race slicks used in the Grand Am series. My car has benefited setup wise from the AM Performance race car. Spring choice was directly influenced from data collected from the race car.

LS1 Miata NASA SU Race - Thunderhill - Dean - Apr 16, 2011 on Vimeo

I definitely wish AM the best and would like to see them up front soon, but I have a feeling it's still going to be a BMW and Mustang show this year.

when is this happening again!?

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 1073112)

The only 2 Z owners I personally know are a young white guy who is self-employed and a mid-30's black female cop. What's your point?

My point is exactly the same as yours.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1073307)

My point is exactly the same as yours.

I concur.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1073093)

Shouldn't you be busy installing a supercharger? :icon17:

Trust me I keep clicking refresh on my email application hoping to see a UPS shipping notice. I did pay extra for 3 day delivery..

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Originally Posted by Kirkster (Post 1073329)

Trust me I keep clicking refresh on my email application hoping to see a UPS shipping notice. I did pay extra for 3 day delivery..

Dude I commend you. I'd be stressed crazy trying to get it all done in time for ZDayZ!

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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1073240)

when is this happening again!?

The Bosch Engineering 200 will take place May 13-14 and will be broadcast on SPEED on May 22nd at 1:00 PM Eastern Time.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1073342)

Dude I commend you. I'd be stressed crazy trying to get it all done in time for ZDayZ!

Heh. And I will probably have to take a jaunt back down to Mexico again before the 18th...

Just a bit stressed

Go AM Performance, kick some BMW + Mustang butt! :tup:

This is our shop 11 Saleen,My wife has a G37 and were looking at a new 11 Z.
we are also currently running a 11 saleen in American Iron.I will post some pics tomorrow.http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m..._6740515_n.jpg http://i333.photobucket.com/albums/m..._3994287_n.jpg

I hadn't see the 11 saleen until that picture. Looks ok but doesn't seem like it that far for the regular GT

11 saleen. not bad for a beginner !

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1076014)

Get used to this sight.

http://amperformanceracing.com/site/.../mks_80495.JPG

raped

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1076014)

Get used to this sight.

http://amperformanceracing.com/site/.../mks_80495.JPG

:icon18:

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1076014)

Get used to this sight.

http://amperformanceracing.com/site/.../mks_80495.JPG

Mustang lapping a Z? Maybe if it doesn't blow up early on at VIR we'll get to see it. ;) :p

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1076025)

Mustang lapping a Z? Maybe if it doesn't blow up early on at VIR we'll get to see it. ;) :p

Boo, hisss. You shut your whore mouth!

:p

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1076029)

Boo, hisss. You shut your whore mouth!

:p

:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 1076029)

Boo, hisss. You shut your whore mouth!

:p

:icon17::icon17::icon17:

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1076025)

Mustang lapping a Z? Maybe if it doesn't blow up early on at VIR we'll get to see it. ;) :p

Nope that's not a lapping car. But the car literally was finished day before they left for Barber with no testing! Oh wait they tested! Lol!

YouTube - AM Performance 370Z Grand Am Race Car on the Street

It ran 3 days straight with no issues two weeks ago in 80 degree weather. With a lot more work on suspension and motor this past week. let's just see how they do at VIR Mustang boy.:happydance:

We'll see indeed! Trust me, I wish them success and want to see them do well just like everyone else here. But I've been a race fan long enough to know that it takes a long time for a startup team to start running up front in a competitive series!

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1076074)

Qualifying 19th in an untested car by a new team not indication of platform potential? Car was advancing in race before overheating issues. Just saying give the car a chance.

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1076088)

Qualifying 19th in an untested car by a new team not indication of platform potential? Car was advancing in race before overheating issues. Just saying give the car a chance.

I never said it didn't have any potential. But you seem to think they are going to be right up at the front at the next race, which is extremely optimistic. I'm just trying to be more realistic. I don't expect them to be running up front and contending for the win in their second race out... that's just not typical for a new team/car in any competitive series, and the Continental Tire series is fairly competitive!

Point out once where I dismissed the car. I never did. I'm just being realistic here. This is a brand new operation for Christ's sake. It's going to take some time.

And as you should very well know, in professional racing the car is only half the battle. You've got to have the team. And a lot of luck! Hell, only about 75% of the time does the fastest car win a Sprint Cup race... if the racing gods are on your side you don't necessarily have to be the best that day to end up in victory lane. :D

You guys are going to need to stop with the civil disagreement here. We either need an all-out flame war, or we are going back to the derail by gheyness approach.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1076111)

You guys are going to need to stop with the civil disagreement here. We either need an all-out flame war, or we are going back to the derail by gheyness approach.

I'm down for the gayness.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1076118)

I'm down for the gayness.

You're always down with the gheyness

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1076122)

You're always down with the gheyness

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You're the one that wanted the back seat.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1076123)

You're the one that wanted the back seat.

Whatever, it's well known I prefer the passenger seat.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1076125)

Whatever, it's well known I prefer the passenger seat.

That's not what you said last night. But whatever.

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1076128)

That's not what you said last night. But whatever.

I wanted to do something special since you had been driving so much.

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1076130)

I wanted to do something special since you had been driving so much.

Because I work so hard to make money for this family and support all of your nursing school, which never seems to end I might add, I feel like I am entitled to spend time driving when I want to. I certainly don't want to spend it with you after a long days work. You can't even be bothered to make a nice meal for me once a week. One of these days, Dan... straight to the moon!

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1076134)

:crying:

:wtf2: :eek: :shakes head:

I def. see them in the top 10 just because its a Z , which is gods chariot and God being Brian Lock.
Is he driving it or the other dude or both in this series? I saw him last year at Redline driving the GTR. Seemed to be a hell of a driver.

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Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 780767)

My friend has the GT500 which is probably the only Mustang I'd even consider. It feels huge though and the interior is definitely marginal.

Say what? I have fondled both the GT500 and the 370Z touring and have to call you out on that one. They are comparable in quality, but I give the 370Z ergos, mainly for shifter/center console reasons.

I honestly don't even understand how you would cross-shop these two cars. IMO completely different things.

Now, I'm not saying the Mustang doesn't handle or the 370 doesn't have a good power/weight ratio, they're just not really the same sort of car.

I will say the '11 Mustang got me to look at a Mustang, which is more than any Ford has done in a long time. It's a good car and they'll sell a bunch of them.

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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1076014)

Get used to this sight.

http://amperformanceracing.com/site/.../mks_80495.JPG

We would love to run in that series. We are currently competing in the Eastern Region American Iron AI class. We are running against only American cars now and we are limited to 9-1 power weight ratio. The car with out restrictions makes 394 HP at the tires,we have de tuned it to 370 HP to meet class rules but with headers the car made 430 HP at the tires.

The reason for my post was the wife wants to trade a 08 G37 for a new 11 Z but you cant get the Nismo with nav or heated seats. The other problem is most dealers have not stock. Nissan site is also confusing trying to figure out options packages too. She is thinking about the lcar with sport and lux package.