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GZ3 04-27-2011 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Shamu (Post 1076526)
I used to think the 370Z was a big car until I saw it next to a Mustang like in the picture I posted above. Makes you realize your really dealing with two differnt classes of cars. One a medium size sporty sedan from Ford and the other a sports car from Nissan. Its a wonder that the Mustangs do as well as they do on track. They just look so big and clumsy in comparison.

When you look at manual tranny Mustang GT they weigh just over 3600 lbs with a 54/46 weight distribution. Thats a lot of weight over the front end. Ford has done good job taming all that weight on smooth surfaces. Not so much when things start to get twisty and bumpy.

Both cars have their places. I see Mustang as more of a Summer cruiser and drag race car and 370Z as more of an enthusiast drivers car.
having own 5 350Z's over a span of 6 years, a 370Z for a year, a miata for 3 years and now a my first American car bieng a 5.0, and being an avid track head,...i can tell you with all certainty and experience that the 5.0 is on par in the handling department. Am not just some troll here trying to dismiss or discount the 370Z or inflate the 5.0...infact i cant think of a single thing a 370Z can do better than the 5.0...am sorry ....its a great car....with a stiff suspension and tires this thing is going to be NASTY...and if they lose a bit of weight and IRS....there will never be a reason to buy a Z anymore

shadoquad 04-27-2011 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1077321)
IRS....
Never happen. I think they're proving right now that they don't need one.

Red__Zed 04-27-2011 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1077327)
Never happen. I think they're proving right now that they don't need one.
They'd be a lot faster without the solid axle.

shadoquad 04-27-2011 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1077332)
They'd be a lot faster without the solid axle.
If you say so. Doesn't look like it's hurting them all that badly.

Red__Zed 04-27-2011 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1077345)
If you say so. Doesn't look like it's hurting them all that badly.
I haven't watched much racing this year, but I've seen a couple clips where you could see the rear end of the stang getting funky on technical portions of the track.

shadoquad 04-27-2011 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1077355)
I haven't watched much racing this year, but I've seen a couple clips where you could see the rear end of the stang getting funky on technical portions of the track.
Yeah, but that's a racing spec Stang?

A stock Stang will probably continue to come with SRA.

Am I completely mistaken in thinking it's a nice thing to have at a drag strip?

Red__Zed 04-27-2011 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1077362)
Yeah, but that's a racing spec Stang?

A stock Stang will probably continue to come with SRA.

Am I completely mistaken in thinking it's a nice thing to have at a drag strip?
Yeah, it's great for drag.

I noticed the SRA getting a bit hairy when I was test driving the stang, and I wasn't even killing it. I would love if they brought back the IRS like they used to have on the Cobra's, except better set up for track use. The mustang platform belongs on a road course, rather than the drag strip.

shadoquad 04-27-2011 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1077373)
Yeah, it's great for drag.

I noticed the SRA getting a bit hairy when I was test driving the stang, and I wasn't even killing it. I would love if they brought back the IRS like they used to have on the Cobra's, except better set up for track use. The mustang platform belongs on a road course, rather than the drag strip.
Bullsheet. If you diminish its drag capabilities, you'll cut out a large segment of the customer base. Mustangs are drag cars. The old Fox bodies still kill 'em at the strip.

If SVT or Shelby release a track monster with an IRS (which adds weight, btw), then ok. But base Stangs have always been drag toys.

Red__Zed 04-27-2011 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1077384)
Bullsheet. If you diminish its drag capabilities, you'll cut out a large segment of the customer base. Mustangs are drag cars. The old Fox bodies still kill 'em at the strip.

If SVT or Shelby release a track monster with an IRS (which adds weight, btw), then ok. But base Stangs have always been drag toys.
No, I agree with that. I'm just saying there should be a Boss model or something with IRS.

Foxes actually make pretty decent road course cars as well. No one really realizes it because the prices are driven up due to the demand for them as drag cars, but there are quite a few guys with foxes that will kill it on a road course.

ImportConvert 04-27-2011 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1077373)
Yeah, it's great for drag.

I noticed the SRA getting a bit hairy when I was test driving the stang, and I wasn't even killing it. I would love if they brought back the IRS like they used to have on the Cobra's, except better set up for track use. The mustang platform belongs on a road course, rather than the drag strip.
A proper IRS setup will work well for drag also. It's not optimal, but stock 'vettes on stock rubber are cutting 1.7-8's and with slicks and power mods 1.5's on the OEM IRS setup.

ImportConvert 04-27-2011 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1077391)
No, I agree with that. I'm just saying there should be a Boss model or something with IRS.

Foxes actually make pretty decent road course cars as well. No one really realizes it because the prices are driven up due to the demand for them as drag cars, but there are quite a few guys with foxes that will kill it on a road course.
I have a friend with the full MM kit (about $10K) and DOT's on his fox. It is GLUED to the ground. He claims 1.05g on the pad is what the company states it will do. They are lightweight cars, and they can be made to stick, their only problem is the nearly 60/40 weight split.

b1adesofcha0s 04-27-2011 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GZ3 (Post 1077321)
....there will never be a reason to buy a Z anymore
That's assuming the Z stays the same forever. There's a chance that Nissan could try and make it a lot better. Might not be a huge probability any time soon, but still there nonetheless.

m4a1mustang 04-27-2011 06:53 PM
If there's one thing we should all learn from The Bieb, it's:

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b1adesofcha0s 04-27-2011 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 1077600)
If there's one thing we should all learn from The Bieb, it's:

http://cdn02.okcdn.okmagazine.com/wp...n24newsnea.jpg
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ImportConvert 04-27-2011 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by shadoquad (Post 1077327)
Never happen. I think they're proving right now that they don't need one.
It will happen on the next gen mustang. Yes, they do need it. Roads are not tracks. Roads have little irregularities and expansion joints in them. This is where IRS shines. On a smooth track, it's almost a moot point, but in the real world...


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