2011 Mustang 5.0 Turbo

Sibze · 08-09-2010, 02:27 PM

phelan · 08-09-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Make sure it has goods brakes, hate for you to be thrashing it one day and cannot slow down and make sure you buy the newer model. It has an oil cooler for those long sessions of riding it fast.

I'm also making sure to install Miata doors for that extra safety factor.

Now the question is, do I wait for a Mercedes engine and upgraded LSD?!

theDreamer · 08-09-2010, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

I'm also making sure to install Miata doors for that extra safety factor.

Now the question is, do I wait for a Mercedes engine and upgraded LSD?!

Pfht, apparently not good unless it has both, what you want to be a girl driver?

mrcardio · 08-09-2010, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

The prospect looks pretty good, I think. Performance-wise, the Mustang is the best "new muscle" there is. Lots of support = turbo will be ridiculous

And I'd still rather a Challenger

Oh, and cardio I was googling for news clips on whatever other upgrades you threw out there. No dice yet, son. How about you do us a favor and find the article, since you're apparently much more capable than a simpleton like me.

Man, it couldn't be more obvious how upset you are about the prospect (s) of your model car being upgraded in the future. But yeah I'll locate the information here shortly but do me a favor and don't fall into deep depression thinking about the new and improved Z in the mean time.

phelan · 08-09-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Man, it couldn't be more obvious how upset you are about the prospect (s) of your model car being upgraded in the future. But yeah I'll locate the information here shortly but do me a favor and don't fall into deep depression thinking about the new and improved Z in the mean time.

Trust me good sir, that I will only cut myself across the street instead of down the lane until I hear from you.

mrcardio · 08-09-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

LSD fantastic...(lol good one Dreamer

)

But this one makes me cranky. Zero issues with the car...drive like a little girl...Okay genius, explain the logic of this one.

Better yet, post a picture of your car. And a Carfax while you're at it. If it doesn't have dents or a rebuilt engine, you aren't driving fast enough. Contrary to popular belief, 88 mph is NOT enough anymore.

Wow, I didn't think it was possible but you're actually getting dumber with each and every post!

(re read what I posted) You obviously didn't get it..

Rebuilt engine or I'm not driving fast enough?? Yeah that makes a whole lot of sense.

You think 88mph is fast in a MS3? LOL, I've hit and sustained 155+ plenty of times

theDreamer · 08-09-2010, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Wow, I didn't think it was possible but you're actually getting dumber with each and every post!

Rebuilt engine or I'm not driving fast enough?? Yeah that makes a whole lot of sense.

Are you living your life a 1/4 mile at a time? If not,

Sibze · 08-09-2010, 02:39 PM

Hey mrcardio, what are you wearing?

mrcardio · 08-09-2010, 03:05 PM

BRE Nissan 370Z & Datsun 240Z - Car News - RoadandTrack.com

"The BRE Tribute car is a Nissan 370Z built by Stillen essentially to the SCCA’s T2 class rules. As such, it’s not overly tweaked. It has a gutted interior and a cage, plus race seats and belts. The car started out as a 2009 Touring Sport model, to which Nismo bodywork, wheels and shocks were added, the last teamed with Eibach springs that lower the car a bit. Stillen anti-roll bars are fitted to the car front and rear, and the 4-cam 3.7-liter V-6 is untouched internally. It is, however, stripped of its catalytic converter and fitted with a Stillen cat-back exhaust, a reflashed ECU, a Nissan Motorsports oil cooler, an aluminum flywheel and a heavy-duty clutch. Power is in the neighborhood of 350 bhp, and stock brakes (with braided stainless-steel lines and Hawk pads) handle stopping chores. The car also had a stock viscous limited-slip differential, although Nissan plans to fit the car with a tougher clutch-type LSD from Nissan Comp soon.

Second session in the car, with all driver aids turned off, I’m having more fun. It’s hot, over 100 degrees, and I’m keeping an eye on oil temps as I continue to be impressed with how well the new Z hides its 3300-lb. curb weight and laps with no apparent vices. It’s clearly better damped than a stock Z. Toward the end of the session, though, I notice more inside rear wheelspin on corner exit, an indicator that the limited-slip diff was not working well. Turns out that differential cooler hadn’t been installed on the car yet, and our lapping on a hot day proved too much for the diff. Our best lap of 1 min. 55.53 sec. would have been considerably better had the car been on Hoosiers and fitted with the limited-slip diff from Nismo, with a remote cooler."

theDreamer · 08-09-2010, 03:09 PM

So I was unable to visit Fast Lane last week to check this car out, but I might get to see it soon as I have been informed of a few Mustang meets that I may attend and they might bring this car out (one event is a 1/4 mile night).

Sibze · 08-09-2010, 03:11 PM

He didn't answer my question

phelan · 08-09-2010, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

BRE Nissan 370Z & Datsun 240Z - Car News - RoadandTrack.com

"The BRE Tribute car is a Nissan 370Z built by Stillen essentially to the SCCA’s T2 class rules. As such, it’s not overly tweaked. It has a gutted interior and a cage, plus race seats and belts. The car started out as a 2009 Touring Sport model, to which Nismo bodywork, wheels and shocks were added, the last teamed with Eibach springs that lower the car a bit. Stillen anti-roll bars are fitted to the car front and rear, and the 4-cam 3.7-liter V-6 is untouched internally. It is, however, stripped of its catalytic converter and fitted with a Stillen cat-back exhaust, a reflashed ECU, a Nissan Motorsports oil cooler, an aluminum flywheel and a heavy-duty clutch. Power is in the neighborhood of 350 bhp, and stock brakes (with braided stainless-steel lines and Hawk pads) handle stopping chores. The car also had a stock viscous limited-slip differential, although Nissan plans to fit the car with a tougher clutch-type LSD from Nissan Comp soon.

Second session in the car, with all driver aids turned off, I’m having more fun. It’s hot, over 100 degrees, and I’m keeping an eye on oil temps as I continue to be impressed with how well the new Z hides its 3300-lb. curb weight and laps with no apparent vices. It’s clearly better damped than a stock Z. Toward the end of the session, though, I notice more inside rear wheelspin on corner exit, an indicator that the limited-slip diff was not working well. Turns out that differential cooler hadn’t been installed on the car yet, and our lapping on a hot day proved too much for the diff. Our best lap of 1 min. 55.53 sec. would have been considerably better had the car been on Hoosiers and fitted with the limited-slip diff from Nismo, with a remote cooler."

That entire article refers to the BRE Tribute car that has the listed modifications. Nissan I'm sure will support the car build by providing a better than stock LSD. It is, after all, a tribute car, and I think it would serve the company well to have a good, recognizable Z like that.

However, the article says nothing about rolling that onto new model Zs on a go-forward basis. Go ahead, read it again. I'll wait.

...

Just because it's good on a race car, or a 'tribute car' as they call it, doesn't mean it's a decision Nissan will make on the regular Zs. Most drivers will NOT push the car to the limits and feel the necessity of an upgraded LSD. So why bother? People will be paying for a part that they cannot take full advantage of. The benefits of a better LSD does not quantify the additional cost required from a corporate standpoint. I will be VERY surprised if Nissan is willing to increase the Z's already hefty price to accommodate a new LSD. It's just not a practical decision to make right now.

mrcardio · 08-09-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by phelan

That entire article refers to the BRE Tribute car that has the listed modifications. Nissan I'm sure will support the car build by providing a better than stock LSD. It is, after all, a tribute car, and I think it would serve the company well to have a good, recognizable Z like that.

However, the article says nothing about rolling that onto new model Zs on a go-forward basis. Go ahead, read it again. I'll wait.

...

Just because it's good on a race car, or a 'tribute car' as they call it, doesn't mean it's a decision Nissan will make on the regular Zs. Most drivers will NOT push the car to the limits and feel the necessity of an upgraded LSD. So why bother? People will be paying for a part that they cannot take full advantage of. The benefits of a better LSD does not quantify the additional cost required from a corporate standpoint. I will be VERY surprised if Nissan is willing to increase the Z's already hefty price to accommodate a new LSD. It's just not a practical decision to make right now.

Okay, now it's HUGELY apparent you're terrified of the possibility of Nissan improving the 370z! Nissan and other manufactures learn through these types of experiences and new / better technologies often make their way into the production car as a result. Besides, it’s not like the Z in the article was a full blown race car or anything. The bottom line is that Nissan is aware that the current LSD is less than adequate for much more than cursing the blvd. And it's not just the LSD but several other aspects of the car that can use improvement.

Sibze · 08-09-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Okay, now it's HUGELY apparent you're terrified of the possible of Nissan improving the 370z! Nissan and other manufactures learn through these types of experiences and new / better technologies often make their way into the production car as a result. Besides, it’s not like the Z in the article was a full blown race car or anything. The bottom line is that Nissan is aware that the current LSD is less than adequate for much more than cursing the blvd.

I have nightmares about the getting better! I then wake up and scream. I also have the shakes and cold sweats

theDreamer · 08-09-2010, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcardio

Okay, now it's HUGELY apparent you're terrified of the possible of Nissan improving the 370z! Nissan and other manufactures learn through these types of experiences and new / better technologies often make their way into the production car as a result. Besides, it’s not like the Z in the article was a full blown race car or anything. The bottom line is that Nissan is aware that the current LSD is less than adequate for much more than cursing the blvd.

You do know that Nissan also offers the car without the LSD right?
Nissan is well aware of making changes for this car. The 350z had very good brakes, but guess what? People were unhappy with the amount of noise and dust created so with the 370z they backed off on the pads and made them more "street" friendly. Same thing with a lot of other items that people wish they would upgrade from factory but Nissan over the years have come to want to please the majority not the minority. Nothing wrong with this, gives the chance for those of us who want to put better parts on our car not overpay from factory for items we do not need or want, or feel we can get better elsewhere.

08-09-2010, 03:05 PM	#219 (permalink)
mrcardio Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Central Florida Posts: 219 Drives: 08 MS3 Rep Power: 14	BRE Nissan 370Z & Datsun 240Z - Car News - RoadandTrack.com "The BRE Tribute car is a Nissan 370Z built by Stillen essentially to the SCCA’s T2 class rules. As such, it’s not overly tweaked. It has a gutted interior and a cage, plus race seats and belts. The car started out as a 2009 Touring Sport model, to which Nismo bodywork, wheels and shocks were added, the last teamed with Eibach springs that lower the car a bit. Stillen anti-roll bars are fitted to the car front and rear, and the 4-cam 3.7-liter V-6 is untouched internally. It is, however, stripped of its catalytic converter and fitted with a Stillen cat-back exhaust, a reflashed ECU, a Nissan Motorsports oil cooler, an aluminum flywheel and a heavy-duty clutch. Power is in the neighborhood of 350 bhp, and stock brakes (with braided stainless-steel lines and Hawk pads) handle stopping chores. The car also had a stock viscous limited-slip differential, although Nissan plans to fit the car with a tougher clutch-type LSD from Nissan Comp soon. Second session in the car, with all driver aids turned off, I’m having more fun. It’s hot, over 100 degrees, and I’m keeping an eye on oil temps as I continue to be impressed with how well the new Z hides its 3300-lb. curb weight and laps with no apparent vices. It’s clearly better damped than a stock Z. Toward the end of the session, though, I notice more inside rear wheelspin on corner exit, an indicator that the limited-slip diff was not working well. Turns out that differential cooler hadn’t been installed on the car yet, and our lapping on a hot day proved too much for the diff. Our best lap of 1 min. 55.53 sec. would have been considerably better had the car been on Hoosiers and fitted with the limited-slip diff from Nismo, with a remote cooler." __________________ ‹^› ‹(•¿•)› ‹^› Last edited by mrcardio; 08-09-2010 at 03:08 PM.

08-09-2010, 03:09 PM	#220 (permalink)
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Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 62	Hey mrcardio, what are you wearing?

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Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 62	He didn't answer my question