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Originally Posted by 280z/300zx Damn you guys are out of the loop. Inside information from both companies has eluded to the fact that there will not be a turbo version,

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Old 04-20-2011, 08:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Damn you guys are out of the loop. Inside information from both companies has eluded to the fact that there will not be a turbo version, or at least not for the first year or two. The subaru version will also not be AWD (which is pissing off a lot of suby guys). The car is slated to have 170-200hp and come in with a weight of 2700-3000lbs. Originally it was estimated to have 220hp and 2600lbs but that has now but squashed. That's not to say that these specs are set in stone, we won't know that until it's released, but inside informers have basically said this will be a miata fighter and not something that will step up to the likes of the 370z/mustang/camaro/genesis. Also, price is said to be 20-25k. Lastly, for engine specs pay attention to the new 2012 impreza that was just released. Sources say it will be the same engine that will power the FT-86.

I think you're actually more out of the loop.

The car will be priced much closer to 30k, not 20-25k.

It's been well known for a while that the car won't be AWD. The engine placement does not allow for the use of subaru's AWD system.

The engine will be a tuned up EJ20, or the new FB20. Subaru is currently planning to release only a turbo edition, while toyota is planning on releasing several. It's been known since the beginning that the car would be focused more on being lightweight and fun, rather than powerful.

This may all change, of course, since even the manufacturers don't know for sure what will happen at this point.
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I think you're actually more out of the loop.

The car will be priced much closer to 30k, not 20-25k.

It's been well known for a while that the car won't be AWD. The engine placement does not allow for the use of subaru's AWD system.

The engine will be a tuned up EJ20, or the new FB20. Subaru is currently planning to release only a turbo edition, while toyota is planning on releasing several. It's been known since the beginning that the car would be focused more on being lightweight and fun, rather than powerful.

This may all change, of course, since even the manufacturers don't know for sure what will happen at this point.
All over the suby boards (ex suby owner myself) it is known that there will NOT be a turbo motor for either brand right off the bat. The new FB20 motor is said to use toyota DI for a boost in power and mpg which will achieve 180hp. I'm just passing on the info I've been reading from several suby boards. Could be wrong info I suppose but a turbo has been out of the equation since the beginning of the year.

Also one has to think, 25-30k for a sub 200hp car. Sure it might be light, nimble and fun to drive but so is the 370z which actually has power to back it up. I just don't see many people paying the price for this car when so many other cars in it's price segment would out run it. Then again the miata sells decently so I guess there are those who will. A lot of people are saying the car is for cornering not speed. Then I think, I destroy miata's at the auto-x events I go to with my 370z and at the end of the day I can still pull a 13 sec 1/4 mile. Why oh why would I want an Ft-86 when for almost the same amount I can have a Z.
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All over the suby boards (ex suby owner myself) it is known that there will NOT be a turbo motor for either brand right off the bat. The new FB20 motor is said to use toyota DI for a boost in power and mpg which will achieve 180hp. I'm just passing on the info I've been reading from several suby boards. Could be wrong info I suppose but a turbo has been out of the equation since the beginning of the year.

Also one has to think, 25-30k for a sub 200hp car. Sure it might be light, nimble and fun to drive but so is the 370z which actually has power to back it up. I just don't see many people paying the price for this car when so many other cars in it's price segment would out run it. Then again the miata sells decently so I guess there are those who will. A lot of people are saying the car is for cornering not speed. Then I think, I destroy miata's at the auto-x events I go to with my 370z and at the end of the day I can still pull a 13 sec 1/4 mile. Why oh why would I want an Ft-86 when for almost the same amount I can have a Z.

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