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Originally Posted by Jordo! Based on days of yore, a Supra would be a top of the line Celica with a 6 cyl engine and would be a direct competitor

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Old 07-29-2010, 11:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Based on days of yore, a Supra would be a top of the line Celica with a 6 cyl engine and would be a direct competitor for the Z car.

All of that can happen with the FT-86...
Again your going back to the '80s the celica and supra have long been separate cars lines on separate platforms and separate model directions. When the supra split from the celica it became Toyota's top sports car. On Toyota has Lexus and Lexus has the FLA. If toyota does make a new supera I agree it will go with a v6, but it will be priced to compete more with the vette so it maybe a turbo like they used in the past.
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Old 07-30-2010, 09:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Again your going back to the '80s the celica and supra have long been separate cars lines on separate platforms and separate model directions. When the supra split from the celica it became Toyota's top sports car. On Toyota has Lexus and Lexus has the FLA. If toyota does make a new supera I agree it will go with a v6, but it will be priced to compete more with the vette so it maybe a turbo like they used in the past.
The car is a spiritual sucessor to a 30 yr old Corolla. Clearly the history is relevant.

If they build a Supra the 370Z is the clear competitor as it always was. Why would they compete with the Corvette, which is a GT-R competitor? I just don't see it.

And in that last article, Toyota said they were still considering a turbo version, so we may or may not have to turn to Subaru for that...
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The car is a spiritual sucessor to a 30 yr old Corolla. Clearly the history is relevant.

If they build a Supra the 370Z is the clear competitor as it always was. Why would they compete with the Corvette, which is a GT-R competitor? I just don't see it.

And in that last article, Toyota said they were still considering a turbo version, so we may or may not have to turn to Subaru for that...

I've read somewhere that the Toyota CEO would love to build a revived Supra, but the company does not feel it's the right time to create such a car.

Also, they just built the LFA, shouldn't they use a little break? If the LFA was around 100K and was mass produced, it might be just as popular as the GTR.
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Probably not, because from the get go the design around this car was the Subaru engine.
I could see this being a stepping stone for Toyota back into the game and if this does well the new Supra might be back on the table.

Also, the turbo version will be in the Subaru car, Toyota is getting the NA car.
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Apparently this car is set to be released back on track in November 2011!!

Report: Contrary to rumors, Toyota FT-86 development on track, expected Nov. 2011 — Autoblog
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Apparently this car is set to be released back on track in November 2011!!

Report: Contrary to rumors, Toyota FT-86 development on track, expected Nov. 2011 — Autoblog
it looks a lot like a celica in those pictures...
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Kinda looks like a mini GT-R with the body kit
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I was reading on Road & Track on my way to home to a family emergency that Toyota is thinking about making a baby FT-86.

Only like 200HP, the body looks good on the pic.
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I was reading on Road & Track on my way to home to a family emergency that Toyota is thinking about making a baby FT-86.

Only like 200HP, the body looks good on the pic.
I read that too in the August issue, but I think Toyota is going to make the baby ft-86 a hybrid CR-Z competitor. If the ft-86 could outperform an Altima coupe for a lower price, I'd consider that for my next car (having 4 seats would be nice).
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Sorry if its already been stated but IMO they need to bring back some old school names to really get this car going, call it the Celica since its gonna be a 20k car or so and get some buyers who are loyal to that car line. Hybrids are utter fail and sales are terrible across the board, hell Honda has taken a nose dive into them and cancelled almost all of their Hybrid cars to stick with normal gas cars, and I dont even wana begin to rant on how crappy the crz is with its "sporty" 10 sec to 60 numbers. My idea, Toyota makes it good if it has over 200 hp or more and brings back an old name. If they make it hybrid and has some crappy 130hp it will die quickly because Americans just hate hybrids unless your some tree hippie and in that case you already have a hybrid called the Prius that toyota makes
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Sorry if its already been stated but IMO they need to bring back some old school names to really get this car going, call it the Celica since its gonna be a 20k car or so and get some buyers who are loyal to that car line. Hybrids are utter fail and sales are terrible across the board, hell Honda has taken a nose dive into them and cancelled almost all of their Hybrid cars to stick with normal gas cars, and I dont even wana begin to rant on how crappy the crz is with its "sporty" 10 sec to 60 numbers. My idea, Toyota makes it good if it has over 200 hp or more and brings back an old name. If they make it hybrid and has some crappy 130hp it will die quickly because Americans just hate hybrids unless your some tree hippie and in that case you already have a hybrid called the Prius that toyota makes
I like the FR-S idea, but only "Supra" would really raise some eyebrows (even though this concept is less powerful). Celica would help too, but I think it deserves a more flamboyant name.
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looks like a Genesis/IS250 mix ?
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What ever it looks like I'm sure it's gonna be under powered...but then again what isn't under powered
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What ever it looks like I'm sure it's gonna be under powered...but then again what isn't under powered
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