New Mustang 5.0L confirmed HP

MightyBobo · 12-20-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

why does everyone turn a thread that is supposed to be about certain cars into a debate about my driving skill? how is that relevant? its a sure sign of intellectual bankruptcy, and lack of good arguement.

of course i haven't raced yet. i just go the car in july and when the break in period was done it was already winter. still waiting for summer to go and

on the track

Its relevant because you're thumbing your nose about "ancient" technology, except that you aren't even pushing your newer technology to a point that the old **** couldn't handle also. You probably putt around town, go to work and go golfing - how could a live axle NOT meet those requirements?

The argument is perfectly relevant, because it shows your complete ignorance. MANY people have successfully raced live axle cars.

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Its relevant because you're thumbing your nose about "ancient" technology, except that you aren't even pushing your newer technology to a point that the old **** couldn't handle also. You probably putt around town, go to work and go golfing - how could a live axle NOT meet those requirements?

The argument is perfectly relevant, because it shows your complete ignorance. MANY people have successfully raced live axle cars.

Exactly.

He issues blanket statements based solidly in his unreasonable perception of truth. If it's not at the forefront of automotive technology, it's inferior... period! It can't perform! It's not worthy! End of story.

He ignores all fact and substitutes reality with the one that suits his opinions best. Even though Mustangs prove themselves time and time again on the strip and track, in his world they can't make a corner without spinning out. It's obvious that in his world, competitive road racing sanctioning bodies like Grand Am don't exist where Mustangs compete against the likes of Porsche, Corvette, Viper, etc, and win on a regular basis.

It's not like the 1960's era Mustangs dominate Porsches of the 70s and 80s in HSR competition.

It's not like the Mustang chassis was redesigned from the ground up in 2005 featuring modern components, including a modern iteration of a proven live axle design!

That's right, folks... that old adage, "if it isn't broken, don't fix it," it doesn't exist! Not in this drug store, anyways.

It's pretty obvious that we have reached the point where ignorance trumps logic. Although we fight the good fight, the right fight, we can't win. It's like the "buyout" episode of The Office: If the Michael Scott Paper Company fails, Michael Scott will open another paper company the next day, and the next day, and the next day. Why? Because business isn't about money.

Folks, in his world, reality is not about truth, it's about misguided opinion.

12-20-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Exactly.

He issues blanket statements based solidly in his unreasonable perception of truth. If it's not at the forefront of automotive technology, it's inferior... period! It can't perform! It's not worthy! End of story.

He ignores all fact and substitutes reality with the one that suits his opinions best. Even though Mustangs prove themselves time and time again on the strip and track, in his world they can't make a corner without spinning out. It's obvious that in his world, competitive road racing sanctioning bodies like Grand Am don't exist where Mustangs compete against the likes of Porsche, Corvette, Viper, etc, and win on a regular basis.

It's not like the 1960's era Mustangs don't dominate Porsches of the 70s and 80s in HSR competition.

It's not like the Mustang chassis was redesigned from the ground up in 2005 featuring modern components, including a modern iteration of a proven live axle design!

That's right, folks... that old adage, "if it isn't broken, don't fix it," it doesn't exist! Not in this drug store, anyways.

It's pretty obvious that we have reached the point where ignorance trumps logic. Although we fight the good fight, the right fight, we can't win. It's like the "buyout" episode of The Office: If the Michael Scott Paper Company fails, Michael Scott will open another paper company the next day, and the next day, and the next day. Why? Because business isn't about money.

Folks, in his world, reality is not about truth, it's about misguided opinion.

I read over the quick. If you are trying to say the Mustang handles well I disagree. My roomate has a 06 and I think the handling is ****. The thing feels like a damn boat to me.

Btw I would take a Trans AM > Mustang in previous years

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

I read over the quick. If you are trying to say the Mustang handles well I disagree. My roomate has a 06 and I think the handling is ****. The thing feels like a damn boat to me.

Of course it's going to feel like a boat coming from a Z!

It also depends on whether you have driven a track-pack 2010 or not. Those are actually very nice. Not as stiff as the Z for obvious reasons but much stiffer and tighter than standard.

12-20-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Of course it's going to feel like a boat coming from a Z!

I added more too

But in all honesty. I would rather rock a Camaro than the new Stang. To each his own though. I really am NOT a fan of the styling Ford went with. I think the Camaro looks so much more aggressive. Also, dealing with people in person who are on Fords nuts 24/7 like its the greatest thing on earth will put hate in your heart also.

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

I added more too

But in all honesty. I would rather rock a Camaro than the new Stang. To each his own though. I really am NOT a fan of the styling Ford went with. I think the Camaro looks so much more aggressive. Also, dealing with people in person who are on Fords nuts 24/7 like its the greatest thing on earth will put hate in your heart also.

Trust me, I know. I hate brand-whores like nothing else.

Really, I am just out to defend the truth like most everyone else in this thread that can recognize a good car when they see it.

theDreamer · 12-20-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Trust me, I know. I hate brand-whores like nothing else.

Really, I am just out to defend the truth like most everyone else in this thread that can recognize a good car when they see it.

That is how I am, would never own a Mustang but:

12-20-2009, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Trust me, I know. I hate brand-whores like nothing else.

Really, I am just out to defend the truth like most everyone else in this thread that can recognize a good car when they see it.

If you had to deal with what I did, you would hate the Mustang too. These kids make it out to be better than a ******* supercar

In the end, people fail to realize that American is built for a different purpose than Japanese. The Mustang is known as a drag car, thats all. I just find it funny that a lot of people try to brag about that over a Jap car when a Jap car is built for something different. Yes, the Mustang will win in a line (if modded since the v8 is downgraded from factory and responds better to mods) and the Z will win in the corners. But man some kids I deal with think their Stang will outhandle the Z....they are just INSANE.... Hopefully one day that argument will be agreed upon and people will STFU.

I do find it funny however, that the 370z can currently beat the Mustang out of a V6 (pre 5.0). Japanese engineering > American.

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

I think the Camaro looks so much more aggressive.

One of the reasons for the great success of the Mustang is this right here.

It was never quite as edgy as the Camaro/Firebird... especially in the 90s and early 2000s. But it appealed to more people than the F-bodies so that's why they died in '03 and the Mustang kept going.

Now that the Camaro is back we will see how it all shakes out.

12-20-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

One of the reasons for the great success of the Mustang is this right here.

It was never quite as edgy as the Camaro/Firebird... especially in the 90s and early 2000s. But it appealed to more people than the F-bodies so that's why they died in '03 and the Mustang kept going.

Now that the Camaro is back we will see how it all shakes out.

To be honest with ya....I would take a 00 style TA/Camaro SS over the 06 style Stang.

12-20-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Of course it's going to feel like a boat coming from a Z!

It also depends on whether you have driven a track-pack 2010 or not. Those are actually very nice. Not as stiff as the Z for obvious reasons but much stiffer and tighter than standard.

lol my roomate tried to brag to me saying that the new mustang gt hit the skidpad better than a 350z. I told him its nothing to brag about if its true that I hope a 2011 car could do better than a 03

Took them long enough.

m4a1mustang · 12-20-2009, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by blue660r01

lol my roomate tried to brag to me saying that the new mustang gt hit the skidpad better than a 350z. I told him its nothing to brag about if its true that I hope a 2011 car could do better than a 03

That is one of the things that really annoys me about car people. People have a tendency to compare their car to cars in different classes. We see it here all the time and it's very annoying.

Put simply, the Mustang is NOT a sports car. The Mustang is a muscle car or sports coupe, however you want to phrase it. The Z is a sports car. They just don't compare.

I don't care if they have roughly the same power and are about as fast as one another... they aren't in the same class.

One is a street car that works the everyday with ease and can run the strip or track just fine (and can be modded either way, too).

The other is a track car that's been ported over for street use, too. You can throw your golf bag in the hatch but it doesn't really work for daily use unless you're some crazy enthusiast like a lot of us are.

Compare the Mustang to the Camaro.

Compare the Z to a Cayman.

Don't compare the two. It doesn't work that way.

12-20-2009, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

That is one of the things that really annoys me about car people. People have a tendency to compare their car to cars in different classes. We see it here all the time and it's very annoying.

Put simply, the Mustang is NOT a sports car. The Mustang is a muscle car or sports coupe, however you want to phrase it. The Z is a sports car. They just don't compare.

I don't care if they have roughly the same power and are about as fast as one another... they aren't in the same class.

One is a street car that works the everyday with ease and can run the strip or track just fine (and can be modded either way, too).

The other is a track car that's been ported over for street use, too. You can throw your golf bag in the hatch but it doesn't really work for daily use unless you're some crazy enthusiast like a lot of us are.

Compare the Mustang to the Camaro.

Compare the Z to a Cayman.

Don't compare the two. It doesn't work that way.

We are on the same page.

theDreamer · 12-20-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

That is one of the things that really annoys me about car people. People have a tendency to compare their car to cars in different classes. We see it here all the time and it's very annoying.

Put simply, the Mustang is NOT a sports car. The Mustang is a muscle car or sports coupe, however you want to phrase it. The Z is a sports car. They just don't compare.

I don't care if they have roughly the same power and are about as fast as one another... they aren't in the same class.

One is a street car that works the everyday with ease and can run the strip or track just fine (and can be modded either way, too).

The other is a track car that's been ported over for street use, too. You can throw your golf bag in the hatch but it doesn't really work for daily use unless you're some crazy enthusiast like a lot of us are.

Compare the Mustang to the Camaro.

Compare the Z to a Cayman.

Don't compare the two. It doesn't work that way.

Logic, on the internet.

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