Kia Stinger.... Theyre passing Nissan.

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-15-2018, 08:26 PM

Congrats on your. New ride. It's beautiful.

The Z is everything you said it is and more. Tight is a beautiful way to describe the Z. And yes it is a classic.
The Z is an amazing car. We'd never expect a sedan to take the spot of a two seater coupe. The Kia is a fun daily saloon, the Z is a sports car.
We just want the Z to be competitive within its own segment. We just have some fanboys mixing the two IDEALOGIES where it doesn't belong.

Nixin · 05-16-2018, 01:30 PM

Hello snakebite!

Happy b-day and congrats. The Z is one fine car, you will enjoy it. You may need to put an elastic chin strap on your stetson though with that convertible, don't want to loose it now. Enjoy!

*J*ap***V*et* · 05-16-2018, 01:40 PM

Nice ride Snakebite!! I think this was a good discussion topic lol!! Either way at the end of the day we all still love the Z, or better yet have passion about cool cars!

snakebite · 05-16-2018, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixin

Hello snakebite!

Happy b-day and congrats. The Z is one fine car, you will enjoy it. You may need to put an elastic chin strap on your stetson though with that convertible, don't want to loose it now. Enjoy!

I've already got a hat-system.

Regular cowboy hat up to about 55mph.
(which is above the speed limit in any part of my small town. So folks that have known me for 25 years, and NEVER seen me without the hat or pickup truck , will certainly be saying to each other "is that who I think it is?" when I whistle past)

Once outta town, or being a hooligan on the back roads, I have a new silver Nissan Z baseball cap sitting in the passenger seat.

Bought it at a Nissan dealership when I went to get a second key fob programmed.

Thanks for the welcome fellas.

Today IS my birthday. How the heck did you know? Technically, the little roadster is a gift to myself for behaving, for the most part, until my kids got grown up. Time to get in a little mischief. My youngest is now a county sheriff deputy. Might come in handy?

UNKNOWN_370 · 05-29-2018, 07:22 PM

When this thread started 1 year 5 months and some weeks ago. This was not true. What could've made this change so suddenly?

Kia growing drastically from 2017 to 2018. Proving that having a solid performance car boosts sales.

https://press.kia.com/eu/en/home/med...017_sales.html

HYUNDAI expanding Montgomery plant.

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...ery/650951002/

Nissan LOSING market share and cutting production.
IF Nissan thought the Z was an important car? They'd be expanding like Kia/Hyundai. The Halo effect is a sales magnet.

https://jalopnik.com/nissan-is-slash...-20-1826384273

WHEN Isuzu had the Impulse... they were selling like hotcakes. They had one of the most attention grabbing commercial series of the 80's. The kinda helped revolutionize advertising along with selling a crap load of Impluse, Amigo and Rodeo vehicles. Then isuzu decided to focus only on economy cars...

Where are they now?

Isuzu flashback
https://youtu.be/nJMq_7alQpU

ZCanadian · 06-01-2018, 04:45 PM

FWIW, on-track comparison between Mustang GT and Kia Stinger.

https://youtu.be/rdsxfTJiTVw

I cannot get the audio to work on my computer right now, but this is at a track near me, and drivers are track instructors.

Mustang GT 1:22.10
Stinger 1:25.66

I don't know how each vehicle was appointed, or what mods might be on the Mustang.

Take what you want from it, but I thought it was interesting.

Zingston · 06-01-2018, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZCanadian

FWIW, on-track comparison between Mustang GT and Kia Stinger.

https://youtu.be/rdsxfTJiTVw

I cannot get the audio to work on my computer right now, but this is at a track near me, and drivers are track instructors.

Mustang GT 1:22.10
Stinger 1:25.66

I don't know how each vehicle was appointed, or what mods might be on the Mustang.

Take what you want from it, but I thought it was interesting.

Cool video. That Kia has great launch dynamics! Looks good too.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-21-2018, 07:06 PM

The Korean Trio beat PORSCHE for BEST INITIAL QUALITY!!

https://jalopnik.com/genesis-hyundai...201-1827016493

But haters gonna hate... lol

b15 · 06-21-2018, 08:25 PM

Initial quality means jack today. Almost every car above 20k is pretty decent off the shelf. Kia os trying real hard with the Stinger and it definitely looks great on paper. But Stinger sales aren't exactly record breaking and 50k for it is a hard pill to swallow. In my opinion it's G70 cousin is so much better looking.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-21-2018, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b15

Initial quality means jack today. Almost every car above 20k is pretty decent off the shelf. Kia os trying real hard with the Stinger and it definitely looks great on paper. But Stinger sales aren't exactly record breaking and 50k for it is a hard pill to swallow. In my opinion it's G70 cousin is so much better looking.

I can agree that the G70 is a nicer car and I'd actually consider that. But I promise you. If the 370z got a build quality rank? There'd be a lot of D**k suck in round here.
The fact that it's a less significant award is a valid point due to modern manufacturing...

BUT, this is a car company that sells cars between $15,000 and $52,000 that has eclipsed a quality standard of a company that sells cars from $58,000 to $1,000,000
I actually drove the stinger so I'm not talkin out my Aziz. It's a good and competitive car for the money. When I pass dealerships in Texas. There's new ones coming out with temp tags. I see them on the street here.

People keep arguing $50k for the top line Kia, but u can forego the power trunk n some electronics n purchase for 44k. N the 50k is equipped like the 56k Infiniti. And all the buttons etc are more tactile in the Kia. While the Infiniti boasts better aluminum parts n shapes. I think these cars kinda draw in value. N knowing that their build quality standards are shooting up isn't a bad thing.

But like I said. Haters gonna hate.

Zingston · 06-22-2018, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I can agree that the G70 is a nicer car and I'd actually consider that. But I promise you. If the 370z got a build quality rank? There'd be a lot of D**k suck in round here.
The fact that it's a less significant award is a valid point due to modern manufacturing...

BUT, this is a car company that sells cars between $15,000 and $52,000 that has eclipsed a quality standard of a company that sells cars from $58,000 to $1,000,000
I actually drove the stinger so I'm not talkin out my Aziz. It's a good and competitive car for the money. When I pass dealerships in Texas. There's new ones coming out with temp tags. I see them on the street here.

People keep arguing $50k for the top line Kia, but u can forego the power trunk n some electronics n purchase for 44k. N the 50k is equipped like the 56k Infiniti. And all the buttons etc are more tactile in the Kia. While the Infiniti boasts better aluminum parts n shapes. I think these cars kinda draw in value. N knowing that their build quality standards are shooting up isn't a bad thing.

But like I said. Haters gonna hate.

I'm just glad the d@%k suckage has been kept to a minimum around here.

UNKNOWN_370 · 06-22-2018, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zingston

I'm just glad the d@%k suckage has been kept to a minimum around here.

I gave the most honest review of three cars that I've DRIVEN . If anyone here isn't a sedan guy. It's me... Any OG on here knows this.

JUST the fact that id give that much respect to the Giulia is a miracle. I still bought an acura tlx 2.4 tech dct. I hate Acura in looks. But at 21k. It's a lot of luxury great on gas n room for a low price. Do i feel like, wow, I own a ac? No! Are my aspirations to get a sport sedan? Not sure. I'd rather get an Alfa coupe.

Even my camaro. It was hard to get into a muscle car, while 6 years in a Z n owning the Infiniti g, a 240sx n a Mazda rx7. I hadn't bought muscle since 1990.
But despite the camaro being not my first pic. It drove too much like a vette for fork up $30k more to have all the same features n damn near the same performance.
I let the driving experience lead me. Not brand loyalty.

So u know what u can do with your sarcasm.

.

Zingston · 06-22-2018, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I gave the most honest review of three cars that I've DRIVEN . If anyone here isn't a sedan guy. It's me... Any OG on here knows this.

JUST the fact that id give that much respect to the Giulia is a miracle. I still bought an acura tlx 2.4 tech dct. I hate Acura in looks. But at 21k. It's a lot of luxury great on gas n room for a low price. Do i feel like, wow, I own a ac? No! Are my aspirations to get a sport sedan? Not sure. I'd rather get an Alfa coupe.

Even my camaro. It was hard to get into a muscle car, while 6 years in a Z n owning the Infiniti g, a 240sx n a Mazda rx7. I hadn't bought muscle since 1990.
But despite the camaro being not my first pic. It drove too much like a vette for fork up $30k more to have all the same features n damn near the same performance.
I let the driving experience lead me. Not brand loyalty.

So u know what u can do with your sarcasm.

.

Yo, I don't have a dog in this hunt... just thought what you said, particularly that phrase, was funny... made me laugh. I'm not critical of what you buy, like or drive.

CRiZO · 06-21-2018, 09:00 PM

The thing is, JD Power is literally a marketing company.

Initial quality is the amount of warranty visits within the first 100 days. Has nothing to do with quality, but almost entirely how non-picky the owners are.

b15 · 06-22-2018, 05:41 AM

Should be interesting to see how these respond to tunes. So far Looks to be a mid-range torquey motor just like the VR30. Both cars are making gobs of torque coming on at just 2k. God damn, makes me have a little buyers remorse for buying a VQ instead of a VR powered Q50.

05-15-2018, 08:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Congrats on your. New ride. It's beautiful. The Z is everything you said it is and more. Tight is a beautiful way to describe the Z. And yes it is a classic. The Z is an amazing car. We'd never expect a sedan to take the spot of a two seater coupe. The Kia is a fun daily saloon, the Z is a sports car. We just want the Z to be competitive within its own segment. We just have some fanboys mixing the two IDEALOGIES where it doesn't belong. Nixin, Jap**Vet* and snakebite like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

05-16-2018, 01:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nixin A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: GWN Posts: 3,488 Drives: Goodbye Z! Rep Power: 19833	Hello snakebite! Happy b-day and congrats. The Z is one fine car, you will enjoy it. You may need to put an elastic chin strap on your stetson though with that convertible, don't want to loose it now. Enjoy! UNKNOWN_370 and snakebite like this.

05-29-2018, 07:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	When this thread started 1 year 5 months and some weeks ago. This was not true. What could've made this change so suddenly? Kia growing drastically from 2017 to 2018. Proving that having a solid performance car boosts sales. https://press.kia.com/eu/en/home/med...017_sales.html HYUNDAI expanding Montgomery plant. https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com...ery/650951002/ Nissan LOSING market share and cutting production. IF Nissan thought the Z was an important car? They'd be expanding like Kia/Hyundai. The Halo effect is a sales magnet. https://jalopnik.com/nissan-is-slash...-20-1826384273 WHEN Isuzu had the Impulse... they were selling like hotcakes. They had one of the most attention grabbing commercial series of the 80's. The kinda helped revolutionize advertising along with selling a crap load of Impluse, Amigo and Rodeo vehicles. Then isuzu decided to focus only on economy cars... Where are they now? Isuzu flashback https://youtu.be/nJMq_7alQpU __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980 Last edited by UNKNOWN_370; 05-29-2018 at 07:49 PM.

06-21-2018, 07:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	The Korean Trio beat PORSCHE for BEST INITIAL QUALITY!! https://jalopnik.com/genesis-hyundai...201-1827016493 But haters gonna hate... lol __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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Jap**Vet* Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Illinois Posts: 479 Drives: 2009 370z Rep Power: 115134	Nice ride Snakebite!! I think this was a good discussion topic lol!! Either way at the end of the day we all still love the Z, or better yet have passion about cool cars!

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ZCanadian A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Canada Posts: 1,061 Drives: 2013 370Z Rep Power: 60274	FWIW, on-track comparison between Mustang GT and Kia Stinger. https://youtu.be/rdsxfTJiTVw I cannot get the audio to work on my computer right now, but this is at a track near me, and drivers are track instructors. Mustang GT 1:22.10 Stinger 1:25.66 I don't know how each vehicle was appointed, or what mods might be on the Mustang. Take what you want from it, but I thought it was interesting.

06-21-2018, 08:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36572	Initial quality means jack today. Almost every car above 20k is pretty decent off the shelf. Kia os trying real hard with the Stinger and it definitely looks great on paper. But Stinger sales aren't exactly record breaking and 50k for it is a hard pill to swallow. In my opinion it's G70 cousin is so much better looking.

06-21-2018, 09:00 PM	#14 (permalink)
CRiZO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Dallas Posts: 672 Drives: in traffic Rep Power: 20699	The thing is, JD Power is literally a marketing company. Initial quality is the amount of warranty visits within the first 100 days. Has nothing to do with quality, but almost entirely how non-picky the owners are.

06-22-2018, 05:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36572	Should be interesting to see how these respond to tunes. So far Looks to be a mid-range torquey motor just like the VR30. Both cars are making gobs of torque coming on at just 2k. God damn, makes me have a little buyers remorse for buying a VQ instead of a VR powered Q50.