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Originally Posted by ChopsZ But still, the Z shouldn't be compared to the likes of the Mustang, Charger/Challenger, Camaro and Corvette. Those cars are designed to be "American muscle cars".

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Old 10-10-2018, 05:35 PM   #286 (permalink)
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But still, the Z shouldn't be compared to the likes of the Mustang, Charger/Challenger, Camaro and Corvette.

Those cars are designed to be "American muscle cars". Meaning they are brutish, loud, and have an overabundance of hp and torque, and even to this day, STILL mostly set up for straight line performance. Sure, they've gotten better at taking corners, but their main aspect is straight line.

The Z on the other hand is designed to be a "Japanese muscle car", meaning it has substantial power and torque, has finesse, is agile, and has a suspension finely tuned for flying through the twisties. It was never designed or even a goal to compete with American muscle.

With that being said, the 370Z holds its own quite well against modern V8 power, especially considering it's a 9 year old design and still a naturally aspirated V6 with a MANUAL transmission still being an option. It's lighter than most of its American counterparts, and its gearing makes great use of it's sub-300 ft lbs of torque to motivate it down the road.


Just as an "aside"... The 3rd Gen Ford Mustang had a production run of 14 years (1979-1993) which had minimal revisions on the outside. One thing that probably kept it alive for so long though throughout that time was that it had quite a few engine options such as an NA Inline 4, Inline 4 turbo, a couple different Inline 6's, a couple different V6's, and a couple of different V8's. On top of that, there were several variants of the Inline 4, turbo Inline 4 and V8 engines, all of which ended up producing more power over time.

Lastly, just for some light reading... https://jalopnik.com/the-original-ni...pen-1796498349
I'm not even speaking from that type of comparison either. I still believe the Z stands on its own 2 legs separate of the car world. But... That said. Its just behind no matter how u cut it.
But understand the argument changes when a Z owner makes statements about say, in this case the stinger. And throws his car in the mix. Now... U just made yourself scrutiny to criticism in the world of comparison.
And if I focused on the track alone. The Z is a has been. AT LEAST STOCK These new cars are giving something that compares in today's circuit.

All that said. Am I praying for Z vengeance???
HELL YEAH!!!
But don't hate Kia for doing it better than
MAXIMA
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That's just a hard fact fanboys gotta live with.
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Well honesty, it doesn't matter to me what other car manufacturers come out with. I love my Z, and plan on keeping it for a long time. It's just a fun, beautiful car and there's really nothing else out there at the moment that interests me.

So with that in mind, I'm all good! ;-)
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The first long term tests are rolling in and so far so good. Loving that... Hyundai/Kia stepped up their game in record breaking times.

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.........but it's still ugly.

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It looks good from the front and sides...





But that rear end, they could have definitely done better...

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It looks good from the front and sides...





But that rear end, they could have definitely done better...

I think the front and rear are the stingers high points, it has a striking stance when you see it in person. Its more attractive than the higher end European sedans in my opinion.
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Looks like an Audi A7 knock off.

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man i wish i saw things like you guys..............but i dont. it's not a good looking car.

honestly the back may be the best part and it's simply a mix of charger tail lights and every car with quad exhausts.
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legit i can pick 10 pieces of that cars design that was stolen from other cars.

the kia is a bunch of hacks.
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And the A7 is a mighty damn nice looking car all the way around.

I think the Stinger GT looks awesome all around. If I were looking to replace my Z, I'd consider it no doubt!
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The guy who designed it also was a designer for Audi / VW. Hard to be a knock-off of himself.
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ok not a rip off just laziness
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it needs those 365hp for such a heavy car, 4004 pounds. I beat one 2 weeks ago with my daily 911 gts
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