Originally Posted by roplusbee (Post 3560169)

When they stopped producing the B15 SE-R Spec V, the Sentra died for me. It looks like the pendulum is swinging back around. NISSAN usually release their best products at the end / beginning of a decade.

Originally Posted by NISMO IX (Post 3560190)

I just wanted to add to an earlier comment I made about owning an 06 Spec-V and giving the current conversation here. When I owned my Sentra, it was in a weird time in my life before my currently wonderful career in the aerospace industry, I actually worked pizza delivery 48 hours/6 days a week with the Sentra. In three years time I racked up 88,000 miles on it only needing tires, brakes, and fluids. After five years I traded it in and needed a rear wheel bearing at 96,000 miles. THAT was stop and go traffic, non-stop, for three years. It held up nicely, I wasn't always gentle either because it was a Spec-V. This is why I stuck with the brand, if I had Merican, it would not have held up. The Kia and Hyundai were garbage in the late 1990's to mid 2000's but are actually built a lot more durable now. Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3560171)

I'm not trying to. I'm just expressing a reality of irrationality in this world that now you have stood up for.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3560171)

You can have any opinion you like. In reality idgaf either way. You're debating the wrong forum member, cuz I'll only debate facts. You're free to block yourself from receiving as many opposing opinions as you like.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3560171)

I was just making a general statement based off a n observed one sided rationale you freely admitted to.

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3560262)

Now you're putting words in my mouth. I never stood up for that way of thinking. I simply acknowledged that I am guilty of it in when it comes to Hyundai.



:iagree: My ignore list has a population of zero :tiphat:



Right, but the problem is most people think they are right when they think that way and refuse to try to see it from another perspective. Whereas I understand the problems that can stem from that kind of bias. Now, seeing as my decision to like or dislike Hyundai harms no one either way, I'm not worried about having an irrational opinion. But you can't do that when you're making important decisions that affect other people, especially when it comes to their livelihoods. Yet many people still allow irrational thoughts and emotions to cloud their judgement even when cold hard facts are slapping them in the face :shakes head:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3558123)

The sentra has only been without a manual, 4 years. I'll wait and reserve my opinion for a full test drive. The Juke engine is torquey and linear. Acceleration is brisk. So we'll see?

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3560927)

At this point, to me at least, its like why bother. Sentras are decent rental cars.

Originally Posted by NISMO IX (Post 3560190)

I just wanted to add to an earlier comment I made about owning an 06 Spec-V and giving the current conversation here. When I owned my Sentra, it was in a weird time in my life before my currently wonderful career in the aerospace industry, I actually worked pizza delivery 48 hours/6 days a week with the Sentra. In three years time I racked up 88,000 miles on it only needing tires, brakes, and fluids. After five years I traded it in and needed a rear wheel bearing at 96,000 miles. THAT was stop and go traffic, non-stop, for three years. It held up nicely, I wasn't always gentle either because it was a Spec-V. This is why I stuck with the brand, if I had Merican, it would not have held up. The Kia and Hyundai were garbage in the late 1990's to mid 2000's but are actually built a lot more durable now. Just my 2 cents.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3560973)

I would like to see Nissan come back to its 90's status. I remember when every car in the lineup had performance injected into it....

200sx
Pulsar
240sx
300zx
300zxTT

MAXIMA and even the Altima was performance oriented with amazing 60-90mph highway passes for a lowly 4 banger. A company like Nissan or Toyota should have NEVER become appliances. This us a company with a unique sporting heritage. It was able to show that heritage in every single car they made from $11,000 to $40,000 in the 90's. Why should it be different today?

Chevy/Ford/Chrysler/Honda make enough rental cars. It's time for Nissan to step up. and get back on home plate.

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3561266)

Yah, I see wat u say, but it also killed the company for having so many different platforms and trims by the late 90's. Nissan needs a performance hatch for the segment, not a sedan.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3561282)

I agree... but making a good SR & Spec-V version of a sentra couldn't hurt the brand. Nissan should bring back the Pulsar name in a FWD/AWD GTi competitor? In theory, that would be nice.

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3561573)

yah, but to compete vs a mk7 GTI, ull need over 250hp cause the GTI's crank hp rating is sandbagged .. these cars churn over 220whp/270lb ft range in stock form easily. with a simple piggyback and light weight wheels, it's 370z territory..and im not kidding.

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3561573)

yah, but to compete vs a mk7 GTI, ull need over 250hp cause the GTI's crank hp rating is sandbagged .. these cars churn over 220whp/270lb ft range in stock form easily. with a simple piggyback and light weight wheels, it's 370z territory..and im not kidding.

Originally Posted by NISMO IX (Post 3561644)

Sorry, do not care for VW, they are :supergay: IMHO.

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3561585)

Let
The Juke will be on a new chassis, next gen. Probably the sentra will be on that same chassis next gen as well. Maybe even the Z too? We'll just have to see.