2017 Nissan Sentra SR... TURBO/MANUAL

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-10-2016, 11:20 AM

https://youtu.be/rudMR5Gsmtc

OK, so the Sentra of this generation won't win any aggressive styling awards. But it's a car that is extremely practical and I would say mid-sized comfortable for a compact car size and price. In some ways it's the better buy for the average Joe whose on a budget.

Honda, Kia, Mazda all produce much more exciting cars in there appropriate segment in the Civic, Forte & Mazda 3. So the Sentra and Corolla are dead losers in the game. Even Chevy's Cruise has a peppy well sorted engine and very good handling.

I say finally Nissan is thinking with there Brain n not their ***.... even though the sentry is going to need a sportier redesign next generation.

The very exciting and best compact turbo engine in the Juke has been shoved into the Sentra. And we gave a comeback in MANUAL transmission cars with the sentra.

YES THERE ARE BETTER CARS. But at least it's a step in the right direction, unlike the bloated Q60 with 3,700lbs and 208HP. That's almost 200lbs more than the C class Benz it shares an engine with. Being lighter than a Benz shouldn't be a hard feat even for sub premium brands....

But I digress.

sunkist350z · 09-10-2016, 01:46 PM

188hp lol no thanks

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-11-2016, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

188hp lol no thanks

That engine pushes the awd Juke in 7.3 seconds to 60. It's peppy and it's an easily upgradeable DIRECT INJECTED turbo for $22,000 I GUARANTEE you've never driven a Juke. It's just as fun as a Z. And it's perceived torque feels like more than the Z. That's the best sub 200HP engine out there.

http://www.jukeforums.com/forum/vend...ates-here.html

Juke owners are running $150 Ecu tek tunes and gaining30rwhp from stock and alot more with bolt ons

Sentra is a sub 3,000lb car. If you get 240FWHP out of bolt ons and a tune. You're talking Z numbers for about $2,200 extra.

That's the bigger picture behind 188HP.

NISMO IX · 09-11-2016, 12:01 PM

Being a person who owns a Juke nismo AWD

Put that engine in a car that weighs 400lbs-600lbs lighter than the Juke, that will be impressive.

Not just the whp from Ecutek, but almost 50 torque can be gained as well.

/Angelo350Z/ · 09-11-2016, 12:31 PM

Not bad, the front end looks better than the outgoing version. I don't think I'll buy another FWD, but I hope Nissan used the C13 Pulsar front end.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Pulsar_(Europa)

bruddahmanmatt · 09-11-2016, 01:21 PM

I'm all for fun products with manual transmissions but this is more Civic EX-T than it is FoST, GTI or even an Si. It should be obvious that even Nissan acknowledges this given how they opted to badge the car "SR Turbo" as opposed to "NISMO".

The problem with this car IMO is that while it will be priced like a Civic EX-T... (and not like a FoST or GTI) most buyers who want a practical car with some oomph will opt to go with a Civic over this thing, especially given that the Honda was just redesigned whereas the B17 is about to enter it's 5th model year. The only thing the SR Turbo has over the Civic is the option of a 6MT and let's face it, those of us who want to row our own are a dying breed making the option a niche one at best, especially when you consider that someone who wants to shift will almost certainly opt for a more powerful or more fun alternative.

Nissan's problem is that they couldn't figure out if they wanted to undercut the least expensive offering in the segment in the Civic EX-T (they didn't, pricing will be similar) or overpower the competition from Ford and VW. Without brand recognition (sorry but the B15 and B16 SE-Rs were always a step behind the competition, and no one outside of a very select few remembers the B13) those are the two moves you when you enter a performance-based segment like this one. Instead Nissan chose some sort of awkward middle ground and they managed to build a better Civic Si...which is about to be replaced in a year by a new, more powerful model. Truth is the 1.6L MR turbo and 6MT should have been the drivetrain powering the SR three years ago. Too little too late IMO.

Now had they gone and put this engine into a Note...well...that may have caught my attention. Until then, I'm happy as f*** with my FiST. Now there's a proper hoonicorn.

kenchan · 09-13-2016, 07:43 AM

Nissan needs a fast and fun hatch for this segment.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-13-2016, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Nissan needs a fast and fun hatch for this segment.

Most definitely....

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-13-2016, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by bruddahmanmatt

I'm all for fun products with manual transmissions but this is more Civic EX-T than it is FoST, GTI or even an Si. It should be obvious that even Nissan acknowledges this given how they opted to badge the car "SR Turbo" as opposed to "NISMO".

The problem with this car IMO is that while it will be priced like a Civic EX-T... (and not like a FoST or GTI) most buyers who want a practical car with some oomph will opt to go with a Civic over this thing, especially given that the Honda was just redesigned whereas the B17 is about to enter it's 5th model year. The only thing the SR Turbo has over the Civic is the option of a 6MT and let's face it, those of us who want to row our own are a dying breed making the option a niche one at best, especially when you consider that someone who wants to shift will almost certainly opt for a more powerful or more fun alternative.

Nissan's problem is that they couldn't figure out if they wanted to undercut the least expensive offering in the segment in the Civic EX-T (they didn't, pricing will be similar) or overpower the competition from Ford and VW. Without brand recognition (sorry but the B15 and B16 SE-Rs were always a step behind the competition, and no one outside of a very select few remembers the B13) those are the two moves you when you enter a performance-based segment like this one. Instead Nissan chose some sort of awkward middle ground and they managed to build a better Civic Si...which is about to be replaced in a year by a new, more powerful model. Truth is the 1.6L MR turbo and 6MT should have been the drivetrain powering the SR three years ago. Too little too late IMO.

Now had they gone and put this engine into a Note...well...that may have caught my attention. Until then, I'm happy as f*** with my FiST. Now there's a proper hoonicorn.

A lot of these points about where people will go in reality is neither here nor their. At least for NOW??? The sentra hasn't competed in that segment of cars you mention for a few years now. Until we see a sentra Nismo. No sense in mentioning a GTI. Especially when this car in this trim would be a Golf competitor not GTi.

Sentra past SE-R models had a cult following vs the populous following of cars like the civic and GTi. In the end it targets a MUCH DIFFERENT BUYER. Sentra are less for enthusiasts and more for the everyday person looking for a Lil extra punch in an ordinary car.

Though civics and GTi are ordinary as well. The buyer EXPECTS performance out of those cars. Sentra buyers are more just happy they can pass better on the highway. Lol.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-24-2016, 04:17 PM

Here's a first look at the Sentra.... I can't watch it yet.

https://youtu.be/XHlIbaAzAmk

kenchan · 09-24-2016, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Here's a first look at the Sentra.... I can't watch it yet.

https://youtu.be/XHlIbaAzAmk

meh.. looks like their other sentra's and power is not enough.

sunkist350z · 09-24-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

meh.. looks like their other sentra's and power is not enough.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-25-2016, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by sunkist350z

You guys should know by now Nissan does everything in baby steps. Like the Z getting an HR engine in 07 then on the redesign they bored it out and added vvel.

This mid cycle refresh of the engine to me is a sign that the next gen sentra will be going back to its sporty routes. I wasn't expecting this car to be anything special just cuz it has a turbo/manual.

But the manual whiners were complaining that all cars were becoming floppy paddled. Here comes a Nissan product with a stick and a turbo. The evolution of this first year is in my opinion the importance of this car. If they make a 215HP Nismo, that would be good. It's not a car I'd personally buy. Not my taste. But the brand needs to focus on tradition. I would call a turbo manual Japanese tradition.

It's a start. Cuz Nissan has been falling off.

kenchan · 09-25-2016, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

But the manual whiners were complaining that all cars were becoming floppy paddled. Here comes a HALF-ARSED AT BEST Nissan product with a stick and a turbo.

It's a SUPER LATE start. Cuz Nissan has dropped the ball in dis segment.

UNKNOWN_370 · 09-26-2016, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

The sentra has only been without a manual, 4 years. I'll wait and reserve my opinion for a full test drive. The Juke engine is torquey and linear. Acceleration is brisk. So we'll see?

09-10-2016, 11:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	2017 Nissan Sentra SR... TURBO/MANUAL https://youtu.be/rudMR5Gsmtc OK, so the Sentra of this generation won't win any aggressive styling awards. But it's a car that is extremely practical and I would say mid-sized comfortable for a compact car size and price. In some ways it's the better buy for the average Joe whose on a budget. Honda, Kia, Mazda all produce much more exciting cars in there appropriate segment in the Civic, Forte & Mazda 3. So the Sentra and Corolla are dead losers in the game. Even Chevy's Cruise has a peppy well sorted engine and very good handling. I say finally Nissan is thinking with there Brain n not their ***.... even though the sentry is going to need a sportier redesign next generation. The very exciting and best compact turbo engine in the Juke has been shoved into the Sentra. And we gave a comeback in MANUAL transmission cars with the sentra. YES THERE ARE BETTER CARS. But at least it's a step in the right direction, unlike the bloated Q60 with 3,700lbs and 208HP. That's almost 200lbs more than the C class Benz it shares an engine with. Being lighter than a Benz shouldn't be a hard feat even for sub premium brands.... But I digress. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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/Angelo350Z/ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Germany Posts: 2,230 Drives: Z34 \| MK7 \| F82 Rep Power: 3660	Not bad, the front end looks better than the outgoing version. I don't think I'll buy another FWD, but I hope Nissan used the C13 Pulsar front end. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Pulsar_(Europa) __________________ 2013 MB NISSAN 370Z SPORT

09-24-2016, 04:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14857	Here's a first look at the Sentra.... I can't watch it yet. https://youtu.be/XHlIbaAzAmk __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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sunkist350z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Z-land Posts: 1,009 Drives: 2012 370z sport 6-sp Rep Power: 55341	188hp lol no thanks

09-11-2016, 01:21 PM	#6 (permalink)
bruddahmanmatt Base Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: N.O.D. Posts: 39 Drives: For The Hell of It Rep Power: 12	I'm all for fun products with manual transmissions but this is more Civic EX-T than it is FoST, GTI or even an Si. It should be obvious that even Nissan acknowledges this given how they opted to badge the car "SR Turbo" as opposed to "NISMO". The problem with this car IMO is that while it will be priced like a Civic EX-T... (and not like a FoST or GTI) most buyers who want a practical car with some oomph will opt to go with a Civic over this thing, especially given that the Honda was just redesigned whereas the B17 is about to enter it's 5th model year. The only thing the SR Turbo has over the Civic is the option of a 6MT and let's face it, those of us who want to row our own are a dying breed making the option a niche one at best, especially when you consider that someone who wants to shift will almost certainly opt for a more powerful or more fun alternative. Nissan's problem is that they couldn't figure out if they wanted to undercut the least expensive offering in the segment in the Civic EX-T (they didn't, pricing will be similar) or overpower the competition from Ford and VW. Without brand recognition (sorry but the B15 and B16 SE-Rs were always a step behind the competition, and no one outside of a very select few remembers the B13) those are the two moves you when you enter a performance-based segment like this one. Instead Nissan chose some sort of awkward middle ground and they managed to build a better Civic Si...which is about to be replaced in a year by a new, more powerful model. Truth is the 1.6L MR turbo and 6MT should have been the drivetrain powering the SR three years ago. Too little too late IMO. Now had they gone and put this engine into a Note...well...that may have caught my attention. Until then, I'm happy as f*** with my FiST. Now there's a proper hoonicorn.

09-13-2016, 07:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	Nissan needs a fast and fun hatch for this segment.