[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

UNKNOWN_370

Nobody has to get nothing now cuz my brother already has a luxury car that performs well and if he goes into another car. He can easily spend a Lil more cash and upgrade.

You are fairly lost in the concept Ricer is bringing up. He's using the evolution of muscle as an example of how technology can change suddenly....

But you're too agenda driven and argumentative to even grasp a well thought out analysis. You're just going in circles with what is purely a poorly thought out speculation.

Now it may all be speculation from every one of us, but some of us have a grasp on what's going on in the car world and analyzing the rumor mill.... And others are creating their own scenarios purely from the rumor mill and their own personal expectations whether positive or negative.

Tensile steel and carbon fiber has gotten cheaper. Body creasing is 4X more cost effective than a decade ago. This is why cars are getting so many dramatic lines.

The GTR is expected to have well over 700HP next generation. So how would the next gen Z be close to GTR power WITH ONLY 450HP???

Your analysis is weak because you're factoring has little or no basis on fiscal achievement or modern competitive spirit.

The Alfa 4c has a full carbon fiber monocoque, dual clutch transmission 240HP and 2400lbs for $60,000. It's built like a budget Ferrari. It's 2300lbs in Europe and has a very expensive mid engine layout. It accelerates in the mid 12's and gets to 60 in the low 4's. So many different vehicles doing amazing things that in reality a 3,000lb 400HP car doesn't seem so radical. It actually seems like the next step. Like when a stand v8 had 305HP and the Z came 350lbs lighter and had 27 more HP. It's amazing how some of y'all think.
The camaro is subjugated to the same safety constraints as the Z and they lost a 300lb average. I don't get what's the miraculous ness of next gen weight loss. But hey.... I do see how some people believe it won't be cost effective for Nissan. But neither is it a marvel of instability. So most of us are divided with weight. But why do we have to shoot each other down based on not seeing eye to eye? That said....

We're not dreaming, we're speculating and you're just contradicting cuz you wanna be a douche. Not because you're bringing anything to the table in terms of information. Your speculations are based on nonsense and you ending every low grade comment with "lol". While we read your posts we're all going "smh".

At the end of the day.... half of us can go Porsche, Audi, BMW BUT We want a CREDIBLE tuner car because we do it for the culture...

And we speculate as such cuz we believe Nissan wants to feed the enthusiasts market. If you don't like Ricer or any of us having high expectations? You have the right to voice an opinion. But watch how you come at people. Cuz this is a opinion conversation. Not your stage to try to shut people down... Especially when your arguments come with skewed factoids that are missing parts like the GTR argument... Anyway dude. Grow up.

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ViCiouS

You mean you can't fathom Nissan doing exactly what Porsche did? Same 0-60s and 1/4 but the Cayman is overall a better track car at 75% of the price.
718 Cayman S PDK starting 69.5K
991.2 Carerra PDK starting 92.6K

And that's for EXACT SAME performance! A more accurate comparison would be below. Which means the Cayman is 44% the price of the 911 Turbo (same speed as a GTR), for a competitive sports car.
718 Cayman S PDK starting 69.5K
991.2 Carerra Turbo PDK starting 159.2K


Now lets see how that translates to Nissan.
GTR starts at 109k, so 44% of that is starting at $48k for a Z that would be a step up from where it is now, a competitive sports car, and still leaves market for the exclusive GTR.

In addition, this would make the Z competitive with the Cayman, F Type, and BMW Z.


Hey now.. I'll tune my Porsche lol. But you've been spot on with your comments man. As stated above, making the Z faster and lighter will also make it more competitive with the 'luxury sports'.

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Firebase99

Little confused about "same performance" for Cayman S and a new 991 Turbo. Those 911's are a mere tick behind Veyron #'s dude. Defies physics fast.

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ViCiouS

"same performance" was referring to 981 cayman s vs 991.2 carerra base.

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ped

It also doesn't hurt that people are using what's happened every time in the past with regard to engines between the Infiniti and Nissan cars as a gauge to what's likely to happen this time as well.