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Old 03-23-2021, 09:58 AM   #6241 (permalink)
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badges are all covered in his pics and videos.

also, i like the little lip spoiler actually makes the rear look better than without one.

i noticed it doesnt have GTR brakes on this model. makes me wonder if they were for show or a special higher trim level like the Nismo.

steering wheel looks really weird like the top half is way to large of an opening.
And the badges are just the Nissan emblem and Z logo. I think the new Z will just be called "Z".

The spoiler is a nice addition for sure.

I thought the steering wheel looked a bit big as well. Honestly I was hoping they'd make it more squared.
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This looks like a lower trim to me. I am thinking this is the base model and I have a feeling it will have lower HP. I'm thinking 350~375hp for the base and the price will be right under 40k like $39,995 the sport .model will get a hp increase to ~400hp with gtr brakes and other stuff for $43k~ Nismo version will be 450hp for right under $50k but that's just my guess.
If this is a lower trim car sign me up. I don't think any trim will be under 400hp though. The new Supra has 382hp. This car needs that 400hp as a big selling point and just as an extra middle finger to Toyota. For a 400HP car the Akebonos are still plenty sufficient. Honestly, I think the GTR brakes would be overkill unless you're modding to get massive power.
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Ok now the Z looks fire in this color. The spoiler on the rear really ties it together. However honest opinion I don't think I'd buy one. The reason is simple I can almost guarantee I will be able to make one on my existing 370z much cheaper than I can buy one. The chassis is the same basically so if I wanted I should be able to take the body panels off the 400z and put them on the 370z (or someone will make a body kit) I can already drop a vr30 in the 370z for cheap (those motors are not expensive) and I enjoy the physical guages more than the digital ones in the interior. Add in the cost increase we will see and I bet I could do it a good bit cheaper than buying a new one and selling my old one.

Edit: So taking the Maxima price increase it got for 2009 to 2021 model it's a 7k increase for the base model. I expect the same or more for the Z which in my opinion isn't going to fly with consumers.

LMAO- Swapping 400Z body panels onto a 370Z would be super costly and there will certainly be enough differences in ways panels attach to the chassis that it would be a major PITA.
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And the badges are just the Nissan emblem and Z logo. I think the new Z will just be called "Z".

The spoiler is a nice addition for sure.

I thought the steering wheel looked a bit big as well. Honestly I was hoping they'd make it more squared.

If this is a lower trim car sign me up. I don't think any trim will be under 400hp though. The new Supra has 382hp. This car needs that 400hp as a big selling point and just as an extra middle finger to Toyota. For a 400HP car the Akebonos are still plenty sufficient. Honestly, I think the GTR brakes would be overkill unless you're modding to get massive power.

The Supra has two different engines now-
2.0 liter four-cylinder turbo- 255 hp and 295 lb-ft
3.0 liter inline six-cylinder turbo- 382 hp and 365 lb-ft

I can easily see Nissan offering the Z with the same engine selection as the Q50/Q60 have- with the 300 hp and 400 hp versions of the 3.0L V6 twin turbo, but with slightly higher power levels on each. The base will not be lower than the existing 370Z's 332 hp. Expect around 340 hp for the base. The 400 hp version will probably be around 420 hp. I'm hearing 475 hp for the Nismo with all-wheel drive. Essentially a baby GT-R- when the GT-R was released in 2009, it was 480 hp with all-wheel drive (it's up to 565 hp now).
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Basic 4 cyn Z, should be under 30k. Than go from there.

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There will not be a 4-cylinder Z, and no Z under 30K.
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Kinda shocked these popped up in LA, I heard Job #1 wasn't until 01/03/22 with ordering to open up 08/15/21.

Base MSRP will be $34,999

Base gets Akebonos, Sport/Nismo gets Brembos - No more floating calipers.

All cars get the 400hp Flavor of VR30

US Name = Nissan Z, no numbers this time

Dry Weight = 3,252lbs



Looks like I got what I asked for 6 years ago lol

There's no way it can be that light in weight.
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The Supra has two different engines now-
2.0 liter four-cylinder turbo- 255 hp and 295 lb-ft
3.0 liter inline six-cylinder turbo- 382 hp and 365 lb-ft

The base will not be lower than the existing 370Z's 332 hp. Expect around 340 hp for the base
May not necessarily be the case, when the base VR engine replaced the VQ engine in the Q50 for the 16 model year the base 300hp VR was rated with 28 less hp than its 328hp VQ predecessor.
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Does anyone else get triggered every time you see "400Z"? It does me, has Nissan themselves refered to the new Z as "400Z"? It is a Fairlady Z, or just Z for short. The conventional number designation was for North American models only. Just my opinion, it will NOT have a "400Z" badge, because it is NOT a "400Z".
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i do wonder if the kid at the shipping facility who leaked those photos still has a job?

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Does anyone else get triggered every time you see "400Z"? It does me, has Nissan themselves refered to the new Z as "400Z"? It is a Fairlady Z, or just Z for short. The conventional number designation was for North American models only. Just my opinion, it will NOT have a "400Z" badge, because it is NOT a "400Z".
my question is who really cares what the name is?

like at this point is it important at all? we all call our cars a Z anyways for the most part.

lets focus on more important things such as power, weight, which AT is being used, can we get it without the ugly chrome katanas on the pillars, are the gtr brembos an option or just proto hype, etc...
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Does anyone else get triggered every time you see "400Z"? It does me, has Nissan themselves refered to the new Z as "400Z"? It is a Fairlady Z, or just Z for short. The conventional number designation was for North American models only. Just my opinion, it will NOT have a "400Z" badge, because it is NOT a "400Z".
If you look at the spy pics, the name badge is on the rear light panel on the passenger side. It looks like a big "Z" under the black tape, the tape is square. If it said "400Z" I would expect the badge to be much wider.

Maybe registers as "400Z" or "300Z" but just has a "Z" badge on the exterior?

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my question is who really cares what the name is?

like at this point is it important at all?
Didn't someone "vomit" over the amber element in the headlight housing?
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my question is who really cares what the name is?

like at this point is it important at all? we all call our cars a Z anyways for the most part.

lets focus on more important things such as power, weight, which AT is being used, can we get it without the ugly chrome katanas on the pillars, are the gtr brembos an option or just proto hype, etc...
Just "Z" is the most likely name. If there are no numbers on these leaked cars, which appear to be completely finished production versions, it probably won't have any number nomenclature.

Also, I have a feeling there will be a lot of options:
-Roof, pillars, hatch, mirrors in black vs body color
On the silver car the pillars, roof, hatch, and mirrors are black while on the grey car they all match the grey body color. Also the top grille of the grey car appears to be body color (it's hard to tell in the video if the silver car had a body colored grille).

-4 piston Akebono or 6 piston GTR Brembo
Both leaked cars had red Akebonos brakes instead of the yellow GTR Brembos we saw on the Proto

-Gun metal or bronze wheels
Both had gun metal wheels, Proto had bronze wheels

-Interior colored stitching
I noticed these cars (at least the grey one) didn't have any colored stitching on the interior and the Z proto did.

-Carbon fiber exterior parts
These cars had black trim parts in place of the carbon diffuser, side skirts, and bottom lip (actually the 2 leaked cars didn't have a bottom lip attachment).

What if all of these things are options? And this is where I can see them making a lot of extra money as well. If we see the new Z starting anywhere from $35-39K, these options could easily bring it to low 50Ks and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a lot of Zs selling with a lot of options. And it would give Z enthusiasts the opportunity to really make their Z their own. It's probably wishful thinking, but wasn't it wishful thinking to think we'd get a new Z in the first place?
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Does anyone else get triggered every time you see "400Z"? It does me, has Nissan themselves refered to the new Z as "400Z"? It is a Fairlady Z, or just Z for short. The conventional number designation was for North American models only. Just my opinion, it will NOT have a "400Z" badge, because it is NOT a "400Z".
It not and never was 400z. That was an internet rumor from 6 years ago that all the click bait website have used since

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Just "Z" is the most likely name. If there are no numbers on these leaked cars, which appear to be completely finished production versions, it probably won't have any number nomenclature.

Also, I have a feeling there will be a lot of options:
-Roof, pillars, hatch, mirrors in black vs body color
On the silver car the pillars, roof, hatch, and mirrors are black while on the grey car they all match the grey body color. Also the top grille of the grey car appears to be body color (it's hard to tell in the video if the silver car had a body colored grille).

-4 piston Akebono or 6 piston GTR Brembo
Both leaked cars had red Akebonos brakes instead of the yellow GTR Brembos we saw on the Proto

-Gun metal or bronze wheels
Both had gun metal wheels, Proto had bronze wheels

-Interior colored stitching
I noticed these cars (at least the grey one) didn't have any colored stitching on the interior and the Z proto did.

-Carbon fiber exterior parts
These cars had black trim parts in place of the carbon diffuser, side skirts, and bottom lip (actually the 2 leaked cars didn't have a bottom lip attachment).

What if all of these things are options? And this is where I can see them making a lot of extra money as well. If we see the new Z starting anywhere from $35-39K, these options could easily bring it to low 50Ks and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a lot of Zs selling with a lot of options. And it would give Z enthusiasts the opportunity to really make their Z their own. It's probably wishful thinking, but wasn't it wishful thinking to think we'd get a new Z in the first place?
knowing nissan there will be like 6 versions to buy. look at the current mess of models. base, sport, tech, sport tour, nismo, nismo tech. even though i think they may have ditched the tech name stuff lately i havent looked in forever.

guess wait and see but the dates are all over the map and sadly i dont talk to any of my old insiders for info anymore.
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Just "Z" is the most likely name. If there are no numbers on these leaked cars, which appear to be completely finished production versions, it probably won't have any number nomenclature.

Also, I have a feeling there will be a lot of options:
-Roof, pillars, hatch, mirrors in black vs body color
On the silver car the pillars, roof, hatch, and mirrors are black while on the grey car they all match the grey body color. Also the top grille of the grey car appears to be body color (it's hard to tell in the video if the silver car had a body colored grille).

-4 piston Akebono or 6 piston GTR Brembo
Both leaked cars had red Akebonos brakes instead of the yellow GTR Brembos we saw on the Proto

-Gun metal or bronze wheels
Both had gun metal wheels, Proto had bronze wheels

-Interior colored stitching
I noticed these cars (at least the grey one) didn't have any colored stitching on the interior and the Z proto did.

-Carbon fiber exterior parts
These cars had black trim parts in place of the carbon diffuser, side skirts, and bottom lip (actually the 2 leaked cars didn't have a bottom lip attachment).

What if all of these things are options? And this is where I can see them making a lot of extra money as well. If we see the new Z starting anywhere from $35-39K, these options could easily bring it to low 50Ks and I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a lot of Zs selling with a lot of options. And it would give Z enthusiasts the opportunity to really make their Z their own. It's probably wishful thinking, but wasn't it wishful thinking to think we'd get a new Z in the first place?
I bet the body color etc will possibly be an option, since even the Maxima has the "floating roof".

The brakes, doubtful we'll get the GTR Brakes; That's probably a marketing thing to match the new/performance concept aspect of the car. a $7-8k carbon ceramic option would be insane for a sub $60k car.

BRONZEEEEEEEE wheels; most likely the Launch Edition option when released, which will become a regular option the following year

Interior color, doubt it. Most of the original 370z members (AK I think as well), did the Fabric marker approach, which we'll probably have to do, since the seats look the SAME as the 370z as well as the door panels, handles, and vents.

Carbon Fiber...idk...Seems like a launch edition thing or a Concept thing.
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