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Dirk McGurck 01-26-2016 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3397910)
About as coherent as you getting so upset over my general opinion.
I'm sorry that your delicate sensibilities were hurt that my lighthearted comment included the word 'hate'.

FPenvy 01-26-2016 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3397943)
That must be the reason Ford only puts manuals in their performance cars, with the only exception being the newest Ford GT which is a supercar.

If you can't handle shifting gears and power, you can't handle a powerful car at all.



The 911 has a manual, including in the top level trim.
ummmmmmm the 911 top trim is the turbo S......which does not come in manual. just saying.

now i know you're special. you referred to a mustang as a performance car :bowrofl:

UNKNOWN_370 01-26-2016 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3397943)
That must be the reason Ford only puts manuals in their performance cars, with the only exception being the newest Ford GT which is a supercar.

If you can't handle shifting gears and power, you can't handle a powerful car at all.



The 911 has a manual, including in the top level trim.
The GT3
GT3RS
911 TURBO & TURBO S... DO NOT HAVE MANUALS!!!!
:gtfo2:

UNKNOWN_370 01-26-2016 11:18 AM
When any shythead can go to the dealer and buy a manual high powered sports car! Lol

https://youtu.be/kzlg3oQMze4

UNKNOWN_370 01-26-2016 11:20 AM
The GT350 RPM is so high the car barely bucks... Lol
Drive a Z06 and your neck will snap into oblivion.

FPenvy 01-26-2016 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3397952)
When any shythead can go to the dealer and buy a manual high powered sports car! Lol

https://youtu.be/kzlg3oQMze4
i will say that can still happen in an AT but man that fuckin dude filming chomping on his gum made me want to just beat him with a bat.

Dirk McGurck 01-26-2016 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3397951)
The GT3
GT3RS
911 TURBO & TURBO S... DO NOT HAVE MANUALS!!!!
:gtfo2:
Whoops. Oh well.

UNKNOWN_370 01-26-2016 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3397957)
i will say that can still happen in an AT but man that fuckin dude filming chomping on his gum made me want to just beat him with a bat.
Welcome to Texas... LMFAO!!

FPenvy 01-26-2016 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3397973)
Whoops. Oh well.
again..........you're an idiot :tiphat:

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3397975)
Welcome to Texas... LMFAO!!
haha so in that case I should pistol whip him since he most likely will be carrying as well

UNKNOWN_370 01-26-2016 11:37 AM
Hey I can appreciate you manual drivers passion. I used to drive manual too. My opinions are based on my driving experience and what I manage better. I can drive a high hp car just as good. But... I feel both hands on the wheel with the shifter at your finger tips offers you better control. Higher split second reactions. Just all around better handling of the vehicle. We are a tiny group of serious drivers. Most of the world are idiots with money.

Example. Build up an F type S if you really want a fast manual. But the F type R is truly a car for an expert in RWD. That's why they don't even make the RWD anymore. It was too rambunctious even in just auto... Power is hitting new heights. It's all I'm saying.

RicerX 01-26-2016 01:35 PM
I like where this thread went.

But what about speed? What about the progression of transmission technology that has allowed for automatics to outperform the shift times of manual transmissions being the reason why performance cars are abandoning the manual transmission?

What about most PORSCHES not actually having manuals?

WHAT ABOUT OPINIONS GUYS?! SOMEONE THINK OF THE OPINIONS!

Like my opinion that I'm not buying a Z for $60k no matter what transmission it has. You're welcome for my efforts in bringing the last few pages of discussion back full circle to the topic.

Now we can all opinionate for another few pages without getting in trouble.

Heard the next Z was going back to "three on the tree" to get the manual shifter closer to the steering wheel because safety. Now we can all be friends here.

FPenvy 01-26-2016 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3398135)
I like where this thread went.

But what about speed? What about the progression of transmission technology that has allowed for automatics to outperform the shift times of manual transmissions being the reason why performance cars are abandoning the manual transmission?

What about most PORSCHES not actually having manuals?

WHAT ABOUT OPINIONS GUYS?! SOMEONE THINK OF THE OPINIONS!

Like my opinion that I'm not buying a Z for $60k no matter what transmission it has. You're welcome for my efforts in bringing the last few pages of discussion back full circle to the topic.

Now we can all opinionate for another few pages without getting in trouble.

Heard the next Z was going back to "three on the tree" to get the manual shifter closer to the steering wheel because safety. Now we can all be friends here.
WOAH!


keep the thread on track buddy.

:bowrofl:

njobe89 01-26-2016 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3398135)
I like where this thread went.

But what about speed? What about the progression of transmission technology that has allowed for automatics to outperform the shift times of manual transmissions being the reason why performance cars are abandoning the manual transmission?

What about most PORSCHES not actually having manuals?

WHAT ABOUT OPINIONS GUYS?! SOMEONE THINK OF THE OPINIONS!

Like my opinion that I'm not buying a Z for $60k no matter what transmission it has. You're welcome for my efforts in bringing the last few pages of discussion back full circle to the topic.

Now we can all opinionate for another few pages without getting in trouble.

Heard the next Z was going back to "three on the tree" to get the manual shifter closer to the steering wheel because safety. Now we can all be friends here.
:iagree:

Dirk McGurck 01-26-2016 01:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3398135)
Like my opinion that I'm not buying a Z for $60k no matter what transmission it has. You're welcome for my efforts in bringing the last few pages of discussion back full circle to the topic.
Could you do $61K?

squid267 01-27-2016 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3388599)
Detailed engine pics and a weight if they have it posted anywhere
I got your engine pics!

Took me awhile to get around to these. I don't believe weight is a release spec just yet.

VR30 Pictures and specs

falconfixer 01-28-2016 03:39 PM
I heard AWD on the next Z :stirthepot:

Dirk McGurck 01-29-2016 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by falconfixer (Post 3399984)
I heard AWD on the next Z :stirthepot:
http://blog.caranddriver.com/wp-cont...-2-626x382.jpg

ped 02-04-2016 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Davey (Post 3307134)
As long as it keeps the tight, quick feel of the steering, I'm all over that. Cars like the Mustang with 16:1 steering racks just don't have the crisp turn-in like you get from a BRZ, RX-8, Miata, S2000... But those cars don't have the brute force of something like the Z, and especially not the Mustang and Camaro.

The Mustang will go round a racetrack really fast, sure. But driving one, they are heavy, and you can feel it. The steering wheel feels like it belongs on a pirate ship, and as if it's barely even connected to the front wheels on the S197. There is ample dive and squat in the suspension, little feedback from the steering, etc. - though the S550 is greatly improved over the S197 in all of those respects, it's still not as "good" as the Z in those ways.

That is what people are getting at, or at least, that's what I'm getting at... Balance between the actual performance, and the enjoyment of driving it.

If I'm getting paid to win money on a racetrack, I suppose I'm going to drive the fastest damn thing I can afford to drive and I don't care what it feels like, it could be a nightmarish handful that keeps me at my wits' end the entire time, if it's faster, it's faster. But when I drive on the street I'm driving for my own enjoyment and I do not care about 0-60 times or lap times so much as if the car has enough power to "feel fun" to me - and also part of that "feeling fun" is the steering response, flat cornering, predictable braking, etc. That stuff is all way more important to me than the actual lap times turned in on a racetrack by a professional driver who isn't even me, and may not be enjoying it at all.

Now, on the other hand... There's the Miata/BRZ... It's just too slow to be fun IMO. The Z is not too slow to be fun. As I said before, low to mid 13's at over 100 mph in the quarter mile and a top speed (electronically limited) of 155 is slow? Come on, dude.

It could be faster, but it's fast enough to be fun.
Nice post! Addding a CAI, catback and tune and you're at 13 flat or high 12s. And still have the other benefits of lighter weight and better handling. Plus it sounds awesome at that point too, which is a bonus.

ped 02-04-2016 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3326942)
Every car manufactory is going either turbo or lighter these days. Bring back the TT V6!!!! with 420HP! (Hoping the decision making engineer from Nissan reads this) lol
GM is getting 30 MPG out of the 460HP Vette. It's not impossible to meet gas mileage and still have the power too.

Ghostvette 02-04-2016 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ped (Post 3405002)
GM is getting 30 MPG out of the 460HP Vette. It's not impossible to meet gas mileage and still have the power too.
They are meeting that number with cylinder deactivation at highway speeds. It's a lot less noticeable than in the old 8-6-4 Cadillacs. :icon14:


I can usually get 30 MPG out of my car @80 mph...not that I care about MPG...:bowrofl:

ped 02-05-2016 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3377253)
Houston doesn't get 93 and Dallas does? Why?
Because Dallas ownz Houston.

ped 02-05-2016 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FPenvy (Post 3385607)
it means.....

a. its the right choice since it's better.

b. there no DCT to take away from the GT-R allure.
Screw the GT-R - I'm tired of Nissan giving preferential treatment to a halo car. If withholding a DCT is the only thing they think is keeping it somewhat exclusive that means they aren't doing their jobs right. The GT-R, with its AWD and tons of nannies is supposedly a soulless experience anyway. Give me a RWD over that any day. (dons flame suit)

ped 02-05-2016 08:26 AM
That Buick is HOT.

ViCiouS 02-11-2016 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by brancky3 (Post 3146423)
$60k for a 4banger? Or $60k for the 3.0T? I'd buy a Porsche for that kind of cash...
Or how about a 4 banger Porsche? :bowrofl:

As someone strongly considering a 981 (flat 6) or 718 (flat 4 turbo) P-car, a 400hp Z would be a strong contender at that price point

Trips 02-11-2016 02:07 PM
I would like this to continue "on topic" with any updates. ;)

I think other members would appreciate the nonsense, and spitball shooting to be done in the off topic section. :ugh2:

Thanks Trips

xfrgtr 02-11-2016 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RicerX (Post 3398135)
I like where this thread went.

But what about speed? What about the progression of transmission technology that has allowed for automatics to outperform the shift times of manual transmissions being the reason why performance cars are abandoning the manual transmission?

What about most PORSCHES not actually having manuals?

WHAT ABOUT OPINIONS GUYS?! SOMEONE THINK OF THE OPINIONS!

Like my opinion that I'm not buying a Z for $60k no matter what transmission it has. You're welcome for my efforts in bringing the last few pages of discussion back full circle to the topic.

Now we can all opinionate for another few pages without getting in trouble.

Heard the next Z was going back to "three on the tree" to get the manual shifter closer to the steering wheel because safety. Now we can all be friends here.
"What about most PORSCHES not actually having manuals? "
????manuals: Porsche 911 carrera,carrera s,carrera 4s,targa 4s
Porsche cayman,cayman s,gts,gt4
porsche 718 boxter and boxter s.

MagmaRed370z 02-11-2016 03:25 PM
We all know that eventually more than 50% of us here will potentially upgrade to the next Z. It happened with the 350z and it will happen with the 370z.

Magic Bus 02-11-2016 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3410823)
We all know that eventually more than 50% of us here will potentially upgrade to the next Z. It happened with the 350z and it will happen with the 370z.
I am seriously thinking of going with 4 seats on my next car. However if Nissan comes out with the 400 hp, 3.0T, with manual trans, good looks and nice steering/handling, all for under $44K. Screw the extra two seats and I'll be in the repeat 50%.

Got my name on a list for an M2, $53,245 with 6mt, color & shipping. Due to where I'm on the list, maybe a year out before I can order. Hopefully Nissan can announce a Z prior to that.

kay.zee 02-11-2016 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by schellingr (Post 3410823)
We all know that eventually more than 50% of us here will potentially upgrade to the next Z. It happened with the 350z and it will happen with the 370z.
There is no new Z confirmed..... Its all pipe dreams untill Nissan officially announces something which i highly doubt will happen.

Mancub 02-11-2016 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kay.zee (Post 3411037)
There is no new Z confirmed..... Its all pipe dreams untill Nissan officially announces something which i highly doubt will happen.
Thank you for stating this. The only official word we got in 2015 was that they were taking a break after the 370z.

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Dirk McGurck 02-11-2016 08:22 PM
If nothing happens with a new Z before 2020, AAM will be getting a customer. Unless I find a Cayman S for the perfect price and options.

NRTim 02-11-2016 08:52 PM
I have a feeling this thread is gonna be dead until close to the end of 2017....














Hope I'm wrong

brucelidat 02-11-2016 09:30 PM
No, it'll pick up when the q60 comes out since everyone expects that engine and chassis to end up in the z35 so we'll be talking about it when it comes out.

kay.zee 02-11-2016 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by brucelidat (Post 3411354)
No, it'll pick up when the q60 comes out since everyone expects that engine and chassis to end up in the z35 so we'll be talking about it when it comes out.
Why would Nissan put an Infinti Q60 Engine in a new Z, when they said they want to go more fuel efficient and with a car priced more fairly..

People are seriously just claiming there is going to be a new Z when they arent even paying attenton to what is actually coming from Nissan heads themselves. instead its all speculation from some articles based on assumptions and false rumors.

Z_ealot 02-11-2016 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by kay.zee (Post 3411369)
Why would Nissan put an Infinti Q60 Engine in a new Z, when they said they want to go more fuel efficient and with a car priced more fairly..

People are seriously just claiming there is going to be a new Z when they arent even paying attenton to what is actually coming from Nissan heads themselves. instead its all speculation from some articles based on assumptions and false rumors.
Same can be said for the people saying nissan won't make another Z

squid267 02-12-2016 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by kay.zee (Post 3411369)
Why would Nissan put an Infinti Q60 Engine in a new Z, when they said they want to go more fuel efficient and with a car priced more fairly..

People are seriously just claiming there is going to be a new Z when they arent even paying attenton to what is actually coming from Nissan heads themselves. instead its all speculation from some articles based on assumptions and false rumors.
VR30 (Q60 engine) is the most fuel efficient V6 Infiniti has ever made, so wouldn't it make sense to use that in the next Z (if there is one).

Source

Dirk McGurck 02-12-2016 07:07 AM
I hope the next Z weighs 4000lbs and has a twin-turbo charged AND supercharged V12, with a CVT and AWD.

MagmaRed370z 02-12-2016 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3411497)
I hope the next Z weighs 4000lbs and has a twin-turbo charged AND supercharged V12, with a CVT and AWD.

:icon18:

FairladyZ40th 02-12-2016 09:28 AM
Let's all send emails to Nissan with a request of what to put in the Z and what to leave out :) and to release a sneak peak at how it'll like.... Or we'll kidnap all employees :)


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Dirk McGurck 02-12-2016 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by FairladyZ40th (Post 3411752)
Let's all send emails to Nissan with a request of what to put in the Z and what to leave out :) and to release a sneak peak at how it'll like.... Or we'll kidnap all employees :)


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Imagine the shitshow if a manufacturer actually listened to the enthusiasts when designing and releasing a car...


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