There will not be a new Z at any price. The Z34 is the last for a while or maybe forever. Nissan has said basically nothing even after this long a time. At the 2010 National Convention they announced that work on new Z was approved. At the 2015 National Convention the Nissan VP wouldn't say anything. Ghosn and his cohorts want to sell Altimas and trucks by the boatload and some Infinitis so they think they are completing with the Germans. But they are basically bean counters and bean counters hate sports cars. This includes the GTR either forever or for several years. Hang on to your Z34.

i met god once, he shared his wisdom with me and the final thing he told me was, if you ever drive an automatic you're going to hell.

so what kind of oil do you use

i have so many ways to go with this but sadly in America 80% of people believe in that nonsense so i'll be gentle and walk away lol

oil? bitch you cookin?

Nissan cars cannot compete with the germans.

VW smashes mostly all other in sales numbers well depending on the recovery of the emission thing. i could care less since the first thing i did to my car was rip the cats off of it.

audi/bmw/Mercedes are light years beyond infiniti. yes they are nice cars though.

:rofl2: :rofl2:

i was going to buy you some so you can cook for the forum

don't make me throw you back into the kitchen where you belong lol

you can't throw anything... you haven't been shifting gears. your hand got weak.


does your hand look like this? :rofl2: :rofl2:

actually if that pic was your dig it would be you.

we live where the shifter is on the right.....

I actually use my left and right hand when shifting when I use the paddles :tiphat:

all that said was, does your hand look like this... which means we're talking about the right hand, of course.

here take my strong hand :rofl2: :rofl2:

the next Z will 3400lbs with 400hp tt.. it will be 40k. god just told me that

your pic showed otherwise sooooo get better material to convey the point next time. youre better than that lol

now that's a god i can get into. car god lol :bowrofl:

My main point of taking issue with what he said is that he's asserting the manuals should go away entirely for any interesting car. That's ********. Allow us dinosaurs to keep buying the cars we want: keep offering the manual.

But, yes, I'll concede you won an internet fight. I'm sure you can print this post out and have your mom hang it on the refrigerator door.

Now, back to the speculation on a car that's apparently delayed yet another year.

the manual is going to disappear. it's already gone from the exotic/super car market and for good reason.

she puts all my internet wins up so why wouldn't i add this one to the collection :tiphat:

By your logic we should all be riding in self-driving EVs. That'll be fun...

not at all.

see you manual guys are idiots. just because the transmission is "automatic" does not mean you don't/cant use it.

my car is a 7AT. i never use it in "auto" mode. i shift every single gear and use it to it's full potential. i am probably more engaged than you are minus the left foot extra step you need to take and waste time.....and most likely miss a shift here and there.

the argument is invalid that a manual engages you more into the driving experience.

i swear having to manually shift gears makes you all fuckin retarded.

Wow. A coherent and well established argument.

i'm sorry, but did you want me to write you a long essay with 100% correct punctuation and sentence structure?

the point is i made is 100% valid regardless of what a manual homo will say otherwise.

Niiiice. Now you are bringing in homophobic slurs to your argument. Really, well done.

FP drives a auto so he can win races and finger bang your girlfriend at the same time.

Doubtful. He doesn't want to remove both of his hands from those precious paddle-shifters. And lord knows he can't use his left foot to do it either...

I almost forgot safety first then finger banging.

manual homo? not a homophobic slur at all. its just to bash on idiots (like you) who can't move on from a dead technology. idiots who cant accept change nor think that something new (that is also better) can be 'engaging".

i mean that is the term always thrown around is that by pressing a pedal and moving a stick it makes you more engaged in the experience.

aside from not being able to skip over a gear when going down/up that's really the only thing a manual has over on the AT.

AT is faster, more precise, and has better gearing than the manual.

what argument aside from the typical idiotic "but but but its more engaging and its a better drivers feeling" statement do you have?

none.

The MT puts down and can hold more power!:stirthepot:

because aliens.

insert alien history channel guy here.


I have another one... I enjoy that mushy clutch pedal feel when my csc blows.

or the grinding sensation as the syncrhos go flat and my gears start grinding.

or the vibrating shift knob because we all know vibrating mode is the best.

how'd i know you'd chime in with that exact post lol


sooooooo you're saying it's shit lol

Your debate is NOT reflective of my statement. What I was trying to say that high horsepower cars shouldn't be manual because of the power level. It's a lot of power in these newer modern cars. I feel that if going a quarter mile in 11.98 seconds and you're driving on the street... It's not the safest thing in the world to have that much power on a manual transmission for daily use...
Example: I wouldn't buy a manual Z06. But I'd get a manual camaro v6. In the case of the Z06. It's the intelligent street drivers choice to buy an automatic.

Trust me shifting gears isn't your first priority when dealing with that much power at the limit. There's a lot going on without you having to play with a stick. The more engaging argument is moot at this power level when compared to road safety...
If stick was the sports car transmission of choice?
It would be in formula one cars.

All being said... Telling me you hate me over an opinion is extremely childish. It's amazing how serious this debate got over personal opinion and observation.

Yup,because of the power level. Even Porsche only puts manuals in their lower performance street options and the Cayman GT4. BUT even in the case of the GT4 all the low gears are super tall for safety reasons.

My car makes more power than a Z06 and is MT. Are you saying that means I lack intelligence?

You do realize that after driving a MT for a while it becomes second nature. Just because YOU wouldn't buy one doesn't mean that it isn't intelligent.

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That's why the gears are tall? For safety? :shakes head:

So what about the M4 or new vettes etc?

I think its because they don't want that care stealing sales from the 911.

Same here!!:iagree:

About as coherent as you getting so upset over my general opinion.

bet my brain is bigger than yours.......wanna whip em out and compare?

:yum:

Calls people who want to manually shift gears retarded, claims he never uses auto mode

I don't agree. The stealing sales from the 911 is pure myth. The cars are built on 2 totally different driving philosophies and the 911 legendary status can't be eaten up by the Cayman. Besides the practicality of the 911 is leagues better than the Cayman, which comes into play for grand tourers. And the rear engine offers a completely different driving experience.

The Cayman and 911 are individuals and stand alone vehicles .

manually shifts in a manual car and thinks its the better option.


yes. i do then lol :bowrofl:

I don't use auto mode unless I'm rubbernecking.

He's referring to elitists

the new Camaro rocks the same HP as the regular C7 and in either i would have the 8L90 AT.

the M4 has a DCT. very nice.

as for the squashed VW bug segment they have the PDK which pretty much wiped their cars of manuals. they threw you homos a bone with ruining the GT4 cayman with a manual only :bs:

Compared to what type of auto? DCT holds just as much.

After a given HP, both have to be modified...

Yeah but you modified your car. I'm speaking about stock sports cars. Your car is not stock... Your debate is a whole different can of worms. It's modified yo be driven in your skill level

I'm talking about offering over 500HP to any fvckin moron who walks in a dealer.

That must be the reason Ford only puts manuals in their performance cars, with the only exception being the newest Ford GT which is a supercar.

If you can't handle shifting gears and power, you can't handle a powerful car at all.

The 911 has a manual, including in the top level trim.