If they put real vents, that might be in on the nismo.
But that rendering is good. It needs to be a little longer.


I'll be in my bunk!

Came across this rendering for the GT500 Series. :bowdown::bowdown:

The whole front still looks bad there to me. Looks like a bottom feeder lol.

With the 370Z side window. :roflpuke2:

:yum:

Super up-close look of the proto's underside, wheel wells, exterior, and interior..

Put closed-caption on and translate to English you can get an idea of what they're talking about.

Some cool stuff we haven't seen anywhere that are showed in this video:
3:00 - close up look at the exhaust and underneath the rear of the car
5:05 - close up look inside the front grille
12:48 - see the low beams and high beams turn on
13:40 - turn signals turned on (would be much cooler if the rear turn signal strip was sequential)

That video is awesome, but, do you guys also get the lines through when they move the camera? Frustrating.

Yeah, I thought it was scaling aberrations, so I tried different resolutions, but it seems to be on their end.

BTW, how's that wheelbase compare to the current 370Z? They got admonished for checking the wheelbase!

Yeah unfortunately it looks like it's some issues with the video.

Paused at 4:15 and it looks like it's right on 255cm = 100.4" which is exactly the same as the 370Z.
The exhaust looks exactly the same as well, just different tips. So, most likely any current aftermarket catback exhausts will probably bolt right onto the next Z.

Wow, same rear strut bar. Same tonneau cover lol. I think all the trunk interior trim panels are all the same.

I think it's clear from the interior that the proto is literally a modified 370z, no surprises there. The changes really appear to be the exterior body and new engine at this point. Hopefully more will change with the production model. Although, honestly I love the 370z's handling. I wouldn't mind improvements on that without the need for drastic changes.

Diff has passive cooling fins, which is great! Also it looks like some sort of airbag or adjustable active suspension.

Rear subframe and control arms look same as 370z.

Good. Keep that damn price down.

I agree, but sadly it won't be a 30k base brice like the existing car, more like 40-45k base. At that price, if you offered them to me both side-by-side, bang for the buck, I'd rather buy the existing car.

Nissan: OK, we take more. No more fins on diff, no more BBK, carbon fiber trim? - you pay extra, we also make available base model non-turbo. You like?

I wish for a non-turbo base model. The current VQ37 sounds way better than the 3.0TT.

Yeah it looks like an active suspension probably straight off the q50/q50 not excited for that. That is one step closer to their entire active suspension/ drive by wire crap system. Nissan please don't add that stuff and ruin the car I'm begging you!

That cooler they showed at 5:12 is the exact same oil cooler from the vr30 motor so that's confirmation that the vr30 is under the hood if that wasn't obvious at this point

Base price of the Q60 is $41.3K.

Mandatory leather, 7AT, rear seats, dual screen infotainment, Infiniti tax, etc.

I think new base price will be under $35K.

Hey, we live in a world of $80K half-ton trucks and $50K Wranglers.

I don't see a 2-seat, twin-turbo, limited appeal sporty car at $35K being a bad "bang-for-the-buck". As for me, I am tired of having a low-torque high revving NA V6.
Can't wait to drive a TT Z when it comes out!

Some new pictures of the car outside in natural lighting on an overcast/rainy day.

I posted this in the engine sub-forum:

Test drove a 2020 Q60, I prefer the sound of the VQ37

So yesterday, my wife and I test drove a 2020 Passion Red Infiniti Q60. I did this because I wanted a sneak preview of the new Z's engine, as it's already available today in the current Infiniti lineup. What better way to do it than in a two-door Infiniti finished in the same colour as my 2020 Z.

I don't want to get into things like handling here, because the Q60 will not be the Z. I just want to talk about straight line engine performance as that is what most directly qualifies as being a sneak preview to the new Z.

Is it faster, yes. Is it aurally more enjoyable to drive. NO.

Yes you can chalk some of it up to the Q60s automatic transmission versus the excellent 6-speed in my current car.

But man, the whirring sounds of the VQ37 are what make it the best sounding and most enjoyable V6 on the planet. Sadly, the twin-turbo 3.0 lacks all of that character and makes me really wish Nissan would continue offering the current VQ37 in the new Z as a lower priced base trim level to keep the base entry level price down. I would take a VQ37 trim level, not because it's cheaper, but because of the aural experience. The only way to beat the sensory experience of the VQ is with a V8 or higher.

Numbers on an Excel spreadsheet is not what gives us enjoyment; rather its how a car arouses our senses. Automatic is faster than manual. The 3.0TT is faster than the VQ37. But I'd take the slightly slower, more sensual option any day of the week.

I have the "Infiniti Sports Exhaust" on my VQ37 Q60. It sounds AMAZING.
My 2 good friends have faster cars than mine, a Tesla 3 and a CTS V Sport TT V6. But the Q60 sounds 10x better than the CTS and 1,000,000x better than the Tesla!!
On a good weather day with the windows down, the VQ with a good exhaust sounds amazing. I've even had C7 Corvette drivers feel the need to rev their V8s on me when they hear the VQ uncorked, all in good fun I'm sure.

But, I have also hear the VR30 with aftermarket exhaust, and it sounds very good too.

My last car was a German turbo car with a piggy back tuner. It was also in the shop frequently, my Q60 has been very reliable and never needs to be in the shop, so I am enjoying that.
But, I seriously miss the torque of a modern turbo engine, and how easily you can crank up the power.
The VR has some very good tuning options like JB4 and downpipes that make the car much faster for relatively low cash layout. So far, Q50/60 owners are getting good gains and good reliability from their cars.

When my 13 y/o son found out I intend to buy the new 300Z TT, he asked me to keep the Q60 for him to use when he gets old enough, he seems to be very fond of the car. These VQ cars are excellent, but I'll be glad to upgrade to a VR.

Also Turbo RPM gauge means that it is in fact 400HP red sport motor.:excited:

I beleive the new z will look fantastic in person, square front grill or not.

The new Z is likely about 650 pounds lighter than a Q60 RS RWD.
It's going to rip, especially with that new 9AT.

I agree that it won't be a $30k base price car anymore, but I highly doubt the base price will be anywhere near $40k. I see it starting right around $35k then with full options, $45k max. You also have to consider the likelihood that there will be a Nismo option. Seeing as the current 370Z Nismo starts at $45k, that's $15k over the base 370Z. If the new Z started at $40-45k that would most likely mean the new Z Nismo would start upwards of $55-60k. At that price range you're probably looking at many other sports cars.

There isn't as much R&D expense needed to create the new Z (mainly because Nissan can't afford it), therefore, there should be no realistic financial reasoning to hike the base price up very much. The new Z appears to be more existing 370Z underneath than new upgrades. Everything added to the new Z is pretty much taken from existing Nissan/Infiniti models and, while they are nice upgrades and I'm happy to see them, the upgrades aren't exactly premium materials we expect to see in today's standards.

Last thing to add, if this new Z would fail in sales the first year, I'd be willing to bet Nissan would discontinue it within the following five years. Nissan needs to do everything they can to beat the Supra. The best way to do that is to sell a Z car that offers similar/better performance and drivability for an absolute bargain.

Still not a fan of the square grill but everything else on the car I can confidently say I'm perfectly fine with and I'm sure I'd love it when looking at it in person.


Also here is the same closeup video but with accurate English subtitles now included so we know exactly what they're talking about.

I'm one of those JDM-ish enthusiasts who are not at all interested in the BMW Supra. I am extremely disappointed that Toyota used BMW to make a "Supra".

Youtube is full of videos on how not-very-old BMWs can be a total nightmare to keep running. Toyota is/was legendary for their reliability. Nissan, whilst not always as good as Toyota, is far far better than BMW as far as reliability is concerned.

I don't see the new 300Z TT being able to out-perform the latest Supra. This is where BMW shines. However, I don't doubt that the 300Z will be able to come VERY close to the new Supra. And all the while being an ACTUAL reliable Japanese car for slightly less will be more than good enough for me.

There will be quite a few of us middle-aged people who fondly remember the glory days of Japanese cars of the late 80's, early 90's and will buy these new Z's to keep for a long time. The Nissan Z is the only car available connected to those good ol' days, the new BMW Supra definitely misses that demographic.

On a side note, I AM interested to see the new BRZ, rumor has it may receive a turbo motor this time around. That car would be a great car too.

They can make it just under 30k for vase price if they come out with a 4cyn engine version.
Imo to keep the sales up, they should offer a 4cyn version that's just under 30k.


I'll be in my bunk!

I get more excited about it, just have to wait to see how they price it and with what,

https://www.thedrive.com/news/37025/...ssan-executive

"It will come out in this form," declared Nissan's Chief Product Specialist, Hiroshi Tamura, as transcribed by Best Car. Tamura reportedly added that in keeping with the Z's affordable roots, the next Z will be sold at a "buyable price [sic]."

This pretty much confirms that the price of the new Z should NOT increase very much. Great news.

Short clip of the Z Proto reversing with subtle exhaust revs!

Cool, I could hear those turbo's spool :yum:

[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?
 

Sounds like a Q50/60 lol

Edit: Sounds like a Q50/60 in neutral revving lololol

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Sounds like a typical modern Z/Infiniti. Nothing amazing or glorious (stock), but nice.

Will probably sound just like the Q60 with sports exhaust.

Well, at least we know it actually backs up :icon17:

Skip to 14:25 to hear it start, reverse, then drive onto a trailer. :icon17:

I'm already seeing the supra ppl wanting to jump the new Z wagon :rofl2:

Enhance. Enhance. Enhance.

I can see 6 tiny people pedaling. :tiphat:
Press the meth button for boost.

I wonder how hard it would be to put a 400Z steering wheel in a 370Z. LOL