Advice on this offer!!

LakeShow · 09-17-2011, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

Edmunds shows 38,737 invoice (including destination) for manual touring/sport/nav with no other options. Other options would raise it some ... fully optioned out it shows 39,856 -- that's for homelink, kickplates, splash guards and all the mats ...

Also Edmunds shows a regional adjustment to price of 183 for my zipcode ... NY it might be higher ...

Oh ok I forgot to add its a 7 Speed Auto. That should put it in the 40 for invoice.

Zaggeron · 09-17-2011, 11:21 PM

Yup. That's about right. Sounds like a good deal.

LakeShow · 09-18-2011, 11:11 AM

Thanks. Hope there are no tricks or gimmicks when I go into the finance office to officially sign papers. Also I hope they aren't planning to catch me with a high interest rate because I know Nissan is offering 2.89% right now on the Z. I showed another dealer my bill for the car that hasn't been signed for yet and they said the price I'm getting is not possible. They also said they might slap you with additional and extra charges. Maybe this other dealer is telling the truth or maybe they are just hating on my deal.

Zaggeron · 09-18-2011, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow

Thanks. Hope there are no tricks or gimmicks when I go into the finance office to officially sign papers. Also I hope they aren't planning to catch me with a high interest rate because I know Nissan is offering 2.89% right now on the Z. I showed another dealer my bill for the car that hasn't been signed for yet and they said the price I'm getting is not possible. They also said they might slap you with additional and extra charges. Maybe this other dealer is telling the truth or maybe they are just hating on my deal.

Sometimes they try and make up for price cuts with trade-in or interest rates. That's why you have three different negotiations to perform -- car price (negotiate out the door price), trade-in, and interest rate.

I never sign until all three are to my satisfaction

elmz · 09-20-2011, 10:32 AM

Yeah that's a great deal! A fully loaded Z is about 40K. Good luck!

LakeShow · 09-21-2011, 10:53 AM

Spoke to the salesman who is locating the car for me said that the car he found had a mechanical part replaced on it. He didn't say what it was but the car is new. He might tell me today what the part is, but I am not sure if I should take this car if they give it for less or just find another car.

FairladyZ10PG · 09-22-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow

2011 Gun metallic 370z Touring, Sport, Nav for 37,700k before trade tax. After trade 6,500k down to 31,2xxk plus tax and fees 34,000k flat OTD. Is this good or should I work it down a little more. Giving me tints and 2yr oil change tire rotation. I asked for a remote start but they wouldn't do it or kick plates. They are bringing the car Monday and I left deposit. I didn't sign any papers yet. Advice please!

Maybe OP can clarify, but does "After trade 6500" mean that you are trading your previous car in? If so, that means your OTD is actually 6500+34000 = 40500. Which I don't think is that good of a deal.

LakeShow · 09-23-2011, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FairladyZ10PG

Maybe OP can clarify, but does "After trade 6500" mean that you are trading your previous car in? If so, that means your OTD is actually 6500+34000 = 40500. Which I don't think is that good of a deal.

Yes the car becomes 34,000 after trade in is involved. You think thats not good? Shall I go lower.

kellyefields · 09-23-2011, 06:45 PM

I think you should get them to go lower. Just look at the facts it is a 2011 and 2012 is around the bend. As soon as you drive it off the lot it will be almost a year old so they will want you to pay full price but in reality they should be thanking you for taking it off of their hands. Also if you think of your trade as this you are only getting around 3k because they throw in the taxes and fees. I understand the taxes because the government gets theirs but take a hard look at the fees. If they throw in their lot fee, etc have them take it off. They make money if they sale it within 3 months upon arriving at their lot and still pass on the cost to you. Personally I would look for a 2010 leftover or even a good used one and you can still get new car financing through most banks for a car that is up to 2 years old then use the extra money for mods. Sell you trade in out right and make more money as well. I was able to find a 2009 in March of 2010, Sport touring with Navi with only 10k and was able to get it from a private seller for 31k. It did require me to fly to pick it up but the 8 hour drive home made it well worth it.

Zaggeron · 09-23-2011, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeShow

Yes the car becomes 34,000 after trade in is involved. You think thats not good? Shall I go lower.

I missed something here. I thought you said earlier that the price of the car was 37,700. I assumed you meant the price of the car itself before TTL ...

added: reread OP and figured out I confused his down payment with his trade-in.

Zaggeron · 09-23-2011, 08:05 PM

Start over.

Invoice on that car is around 40K.

They are offering 37,700 after your trade. How much did they offer for your trade?

victort · 09-23-2011, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaggeron

Start over.

Invoice on that car is around 40K.

They are offering 37,700 after your trade. How much did they offer for your trade?

37,700 - trade in = 31,200 + TTL = $34,000ish
this was my understanding of the deal, which i think is a good deal

Zaggeron · 09-23-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by victort

37,700 - trade in = 31,200 + TTL = $34,000ish
this was my understanding of the deal, which i think is a good deal

Duh. Yup. Forgot the OP was talking about OTD cost.

Seems like a high TTL to bring the car up to 34,000OTD, but NY tax rates are likely higher than here in TX.

LakeShow · 09-23-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by victort

37,700 - trade in = 31,200 + TTL = $34,000ish
this was my understanding of the deal, which i think is a good deal

^^Exactly what is said here. 37,700 before trade(40,000 invoice). 31,200 after trade then add TTL comes to 34,000. That is the deal. Car just arrived at dealer. Should be going tomorrow to check it out.

Zaggeron · 09-23-2011, 08:46 PM

Still seems like a good deal. Depending on the NY tax rate maybe they added a couple hundred extra to the documentation fee or whatever, but not enough to complain.

I wish you luck at the dealership tomorrow. Hopefully you'll be coming home with a new ride

09-17-2011, 11:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	Yup. That's about right. Sounds like a good deal. __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

09-23-2011, 06:45 PM	#24 (permalink)
kellyefields A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Lexington Ky #BBN Age: 47 Posts: 1,149 Drives: Supercharged Rep Power: 16	I think you should get them to go lower. Just look at the facts it is a 2011 and 2012 is around the bend. As soon as you drive it off the lot it will be almost a year old so they will want you to pay full price but in reality they should be thanking you for taking it off of their hands. Also if you think of your trade as this you are only getting around 3k because they throw in the taxes and fees. I understand the taxes because the government gets theirs but take a hard look at the fees. If they throw in their lot fee, etc have them take it off. They make money if they sale it within 3 months upon arriving at their lot and still pass on the cost to you. Personally I would look for a 2010 leftover or even a good used one and you can still get new car financing through most banks for a car that is up to 2 years old then use the extra money for mods. Sell you trade in out right and make more money as well. I was able to find a 2009 in March of 2010, Sport touring with Navi with only 10k and was able to get it from a private seller for 31k. It did require me to fly to pick it up but the 8 hour drive home made it well worth it. __________________ MY 2009 SC BUILD.

09-23-2011, 08:05 PM	#26 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	Start over. Invoice on that car is around 40K. They are offering 37,700 after your trade. How much did they offer for your trade? __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

09-23-2011, 08:46 PM	#30 (permalink)
Zaggeron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 1,951 Drives: '10 370ZR '13 BRZ Rep Power: 18	Still seems like a good deal. Depending on the NY tax rate maybe they added a couple hundred extra to the documentation fee or whatever, but not enough to complain. I wish you luck at the dealership tomorrow. Hopefully you'll be coming home with a new ride __________________ 2010 Platinum Graphite 370z Roadster:Touring/Sport 2013 Subaru BRZ Limited

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LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 25	Thanks. Hope there are no tricks or gimmicks when I go into the finance office to officially sign papers. Also I hope they aren't planning to catch me with a high interest rate because I know Nissan is offering 2.89% right now on the Z. I showed another dealer my bill for the car that hasn't been signed for yet and they said the price I'm getting is not possible. They also said they might slap you with additional and extra charges. Maybe this other dealer is telling the truth or maybe they are just hating on my deal.

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LakeShow A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: L.I., NY Posts: 5,307 Drives: Everything Rep Power: 25	Spoke to the salesman who is locating the car for me said that the car he found had a mechanical part replaced on it. He didn't say what it was but the car is new. He might tell me today what the part is, but I am not sure if I should take this car if they give it for less or just find another car.