370z Rivals?
 

Who is the enemy out there. Yes mustangs and camaros are v8 so it's not a equal match but who would you say are the biggest rivals for the Z.... Is it unfair to say frs and brz by farrrrr. Is the WRX the only on par machine we should have to outdo? I would base this on 1/4 mile times, and track times.


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Mustang GT
Camaro SS
Challenger SRT8
FRS/BRZ are close on some tracks (more technical)
STi/Evo
Genesis Coupe (V6)

I am sure there are others but that is a good list, also sticking with price here. I am sure we can go up against the bottom Porsche or some other Euro cars.

Everything and anything in my path. Get out the way....Raaa

engine classification too right? because it's kinda unfair to compare a v4 turbo to a v6 na (even if they have similiar gross out puts)

they're just... different.

but dreamer hit the list pretty well for production cars except he missed the miata (which is closer to the brz/frs than to the stangs)

all honesty... Z is a true niche. v6 na 2 seat coupe. there aren't any other on the market with that spec.

My Z and everybody's Z in here!

Thats it!

Porsche Cayman
Porsche Boxster
BMW 335i
V8 Camaros and Mustangs are our competitors on track, just not straight lines.

Don't forget Porsche Cayman/Boxster(S models) and the Audi TTS

Don't think we can compete with the S models.

There are way to many ways to slice this, it totally depends on what the car is used for and what are you basing it on.

Cost
Driving Enjoyment
Seating
Engine Size
Performance Data
Sporty Feel
Straight Line Performance
Brand Prestige
Tow Rating (hehe)

When I was shopping I considered the Z, 5.0, STI, and BRZ. I would loved to have had a used C5 or porsche but didn't want to daily one and was afraid it might make me look kind of like a spoiled doctor-type.

Those damn minivans....

Particularly the Toyota Sienna Limited AWD.

Especially in the snow.

It seems to me that the pony cars rival us more at least at the drag strip anyways. The Z is very competitive there even with the HP disadvantage.

Honestly... nothing. Everyone else has moved on while Nissan has kept the Z in 2009. Not that this is a bad thing... but it's in its own little niche IMO.

You can get way more tech and power in just about anything else these days. Relatively speaking the Z is old school and bare bones. It's a little more harsh, a little more direct. Less practical, less of a value proposition. But it's still fun, so if you like it, you like it!

Hehe not really. In scca autox, the 370's so whooped the Frs/brz's that they qq'd and got the z bumped. There aren't any tracks where the z won't stomp all over them :)

My car's better than your car. My car's better than yours. :p :driving:

Everyone has their own opinions. As far as mine, the Z is an awesome well rounded mid grade sports car. Through drag statistics, the Z is around the 5.0, SS, and srt8 range. However the 5.0 and SRT8 com up on top. If I remember correctly the SRT8 and 5.0 are on par and a .3 or more seconds faster than the Z and SS on the drag strip. Not too sure about other cars. I do know the older STIs were running 13's 5 years ago or so. Iam just glad I have a Z. There will always be someone faster than you or slower than you, why be egotistical or jealous. I wouldn't worry about it too much. Just have funnnnnn :driving:

^ I knew the Kenlration song but had never seen that video.

Interesting to note, onions are toxic to dogs causing hemolytic anemia. Maybe not the best food.

Think that can food said horse meat at the end!!! Wtf!!!! Awful


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^^Yeah that thing gets u thorough every type of terrain, swamp, fog, rain and lots more just ask the gang.

Nothing wrong with horse meat, might as well use it and not let it go to waste. It's actually pretty lean and unlike many other meats gets more tender as the animal ages. In some parts of the world horse / donkey are still eaten. I personally have never tried it but knowing me I will one day, if I haven't already. I've traveled a good bit to countries where I have no clue what the menu says and I just point at something that looks good.

Oddly enough, horse meat is now illegal for use in pet food produced in the US, but at the same time fetches such a high price overseas it would be financially idiotic to use it in pet food.

short rant:
Sadly in the US they had banned the production of horse meat, which resulted in very sick horses being crammed into trailers for them to be shipped to Mexico and sold for meat. Many of the horses didn't survive the ride down to Mexico in the horrible conditions with little regard to their care and with little regulation of ethical slaughter practices. I believe that slaughter of horses is legal federally, but most of the abattoirs have been shut down at the state level, the plus of having horse slaughter take place in the USA is that we have humane slaughter and policies to protect animal welfare and sanitation overseen by the USDA/FDA and veterinarians through acts such as the humane slaughter act and meat inspection act that the horses being shipped over our borders don't. Problems of course arise when you take into consideration that many medications used in horses (Abx/NSAID etc) are not approved for consumption in humans or the withdrawl times are not established. Until recently the only horse slaughterhouses in the US are export only, and the sale/production/transport of horse meat is regulated state to state, to my knowledge there are no functioning horse abattoirs in the US of A.

This coming from a horse owner and (licensed but not practicing) horse doctor - dogs,cats,and lizards for me. When my horses die will they be sent to slaughter? no, they will be euthanized using barbituates that render them unsuitable for consumption and then cremated or buried. However, that is not a cheap thing for the people who are already struggling to make ends ....meat.

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What about the Mazda RX-8 and the Honda S2000:ugh2:

they are not in production anymore =(

So about as outdated as the 370z :)

Horse meat is a big step up for a critter that thinks cat turds are a delicacy.

Rivals of the Z...

Cars with egregious amounts of driver aids are rivals of the Z. Self-driving, blind-spot monitoring, self-parking, active steering, throttle pulling, collision preventing, soulless, gutless, coddling cars are pushing cars like the Z to extinction.

Keep driving cars that force you into punishment if you drive like an asshat. Keep driving cars that hate you if you lack a reference level for physics. Keep driving cars that don't think for you, shift for you, or drive for you. Keep the Z alive!

*this message was not brought to you by the Infiniti Q50*

Certainly not the new models, all others variables aside. 09-12 might be another story.

As mentioned, S2000 for sure, and add in Lotus Elise. 2009 era.

the z isn't dated. people say it is because they're lazy as. sh.ts that need every driver aide in the book. i want something that's raw. guess i'm a dying breed of car enthusiast. it's a sports car not a luxury sports sedan (335, s4, cla etc). you want comfy ride? go get a camry or prius.

the s2000 engines produced over 100hp / 1L displacement which is a HUGE feat considering it's NA. i never thought it was dated and was very dissapointed that they discontinued it. i would have probably got one if it was newer or in production.


rx8... what was that? i seem to have no recollection of that pos.

rx7 is another story. let's hope if mazda releases a rx9 it's going to backtrack towards the rx7 glory.:ugh2:

Doesn't our Z not let us burn out, have VDC, cruise control, and rev match, power steering, AC, power windows, rear and side defrost, power seats, tilt steering, HID bulbs, side markers, VVEL, dimming rear view mirror, ABS brakes just to name a few. You really can't say our Z is raw?!?!?!


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the tilt steering is a mechanical last time i checked. VDC off will let you vandalise the asphalt.

what i was referring to is how every car now is so over-modernized it makes for a boring drive.

or maybe you're but hurt from not being able to afford a luxury sedan? or regret not getting a the 5.0 pony?

I took a 2011 Mustang GT 5.0 for a test drive yesterday. Engine was very weak (heard a few engine knocks, so may have been wrong/bad gas) and you have to turn the steering wheel a lot in order to turn. Suspension was a lot softer/looser than the 2009 370Z Touring I had. I was not impressed.

So are you saying the GTR is bad bc if it is I don't want to be good.


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If you limit the rivals to have the same configuration as the Z (2-seater RWD), then,

Z4 3.5
SLK 350
Porsche Boxster/Cayman S
Corvettes?
Lotus Elise?

S2000
Mazdaspeed Miata

bald headed loser 40 something men in mini vans

Genesis coupe doesn't compare to the Z at all, it's a Korean wannabe. It's no where near as well made, and handles like a truck.