Next z model

carlitos_370z · 01-14-2015, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

Q60 (g37) concept was released with a new 3.0L V6 Twin Turbo engine made by Mercedes, this leads to the new Z sharing the same engine.

that sound fcking good now we are talking about

Thanks for the info bro!!

DOOMMONKEY777 · 01-14-2015, 03:11 PM

I am disappointed. I think VQ has more potential as stock than that MB 3.0L v6. I just think u can still pull out more # out of stock TT VQ vs the new probably same price as to buy 370z and TT it than a next Z TT, not to mention if u ever going to upgrade it, maan what a deep pocket u need.

Tick64 · 01-14-2015, 09:59 PM

They haven't released ANY info regarding price. I wouldn't stress about it yet man.

brucelidat · 01-14-2015, 11:00 PM

I doubt the new one will cost as much as TT-ing the existing one. That's 10k+. There's no way they're releasing the Z at 45k or so.

/Angelo350Z/ · 01-15-2015, 01:02 AM

After a quick search on the interwebs:

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Best Mercedes tuning value? A preview of the 330 horsepower Mercedes M276 DELA 30 Twin Turbo 3.0 liter V6 going into the W205/C205 C400
Here is the Mercedes-Benz answer to the BMW N55 3.0 liter turbocharged inline-6 and the Audi supercharged 3.0 TFSI V6. This new motor will be called the M276 DELA 30 and will have 3.0 liters of displacement in a V6 configuration with two turbochargers. The motor is based on the same direct injected M276 60 degree V6 architecture in the M276 naturally aspirated C350 models but with displacement reduced to 3.0 liters and compression reduced from 12.2:1 to 10.7:1.

This motor will see duty in the C400 4Matic model BenzBoost showed is coming in the next generation C205/W205 generation C-Class. An all wheel drive C-Class with a twin turbo six cylinder powerplant may end being the best tuning value in the Mercedes lineup. Not to mention Mercedes-Benz will now have a true rival for the BMW 335i and the Audi S4.

Power will be somewhere in the 330 horsepower range with torque at 354 pound-feet. High 12 second non-AMG C-Class? Low 12's or high 11's with just a tune? Sure looks realistic especially with the all wheel drive C400.

The block will have an aluminum block with forged internals and the engine will weigh 395 pounds. The turbochargers are manufactured by IHI who also supplies Audi's 4.0 TFSI turbochargers.

Check out the dynograph below to see how the M276 DELA 30 stacks up to the naturally aspirated M276 DE 35.

This is going to be a very exciting motor and a great tuning value for those who do not want to spend $100k+ for the 63 AMG M156 bi-turbos.

Rated Power 245kw @ 5250-6000rpm
Max torque 480Nm @ 1600-4000rpm
Bore x Stroke 88mm x 82.1mm
Compression ratio 10.7:1cr
Engine Weight DIN 70020GZ 179.2Kg

brucelidat · 01-15-2015, 01:11 AM

This is what everyone has been hoping for if it happens ( I don't want to say anything definitive and jinx it). Factory turbo'ed with 335i type tuning gains in a sexy (hopefully) Z body.

carlitos_370z · 01-15-2015, 05:43 AM

sounds great to me...

efuseakay · 01-15-2015, 02:43 PM

There will be a new TOOL album before we see a new Z.

Tick64 · 01-15-2015, 05:25 PM

^^ Ha! I can't wait THAT long.

tag824 · 01-15-2015, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DOOMMONKEY777

I am disappointed. I think VQ has more potential as stock than that MB 3.0L v6. I just think u can still pull out more # out of stock TT VQ vs the new probably same price as to buy 370z and TT it than a next Z TT, not to mention if u ever going to upgrade it, maan what a deep pocket u need.

Even though the displacement is less there's still so much potential with FI engines. From tunes, to intercoolers, downpipes and everything in between you can achieve massive gains. All this with better fuel economy and loads more torque. The future is bright. P.S. Start saving for wider and stickier tires, you'll need 'em.

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Originally Posted by efuseakay

There will be a new TOOL album before we see a new Z.

Been waiting years for a new TOOL album. Everything I've read sounds like this is the year. Instrumentals appear to be done (for the most part) and Maynard is finally working on lyrics. IT BETTER NOT SUCK

Magic Bus · 01-16-2015, 06:21 AM

What confirmation does anyone have that it's a Mercedes engine?

Jordo! · 01-16-2015, 06:54 AM

I had hoped for a bit more top end, but that peak torque figure, and the RPM it's achieved at, sounds mm mmm good to me

Bring on the smoking rubber death clouds, from obliterated rear tires

carlitos_370z · 01-16-2015, 07:56 AM

can wait to see what they are going to do!!! if the body will look like a modern 280Z im going to buy one for sure

brucelidat · 01-16-2015, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I had hoped for a bit more top end, but that peak torque figure, and the RPM it's achieved at, sounds mm mmm good to me

Bring on the smoking rubber death clouds, from obliterated rear tires

The 335's top end isn't that high stock either but we all know they are super tuneable for big gains.

Chad11491 · 01-22-2015, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by carlitos_370z

can wait to see what they are going to do!!! if the body will look like a modern 280Z im going to buy one for sure

The 370 strongly resembles the 240/60/80 already?

Did you mean 280zx? In that case the main thing I'd want from that would be t-tops!! Man, that'd be an instant buy from me, having t-tops or a targa.

01-14-2015, 03:11 PM	#92 (permalink)
DOOMMONKEY777 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Crooklyn Posts: 1,008 Drives: 370Z 6psd-sport-pkg Rep Power: 20	I am disappointed. I think VQ has more potential as stock than that MB 3.0L v6. I just think u can still pull out more # out of stock TT VQ vs the new probably same price as to buy 370z and TT it than a next Z TT, not to mention if u ever going to upgrade it, maan what a deep pocket u need. carlitos_370z likes this. __________________ Kids don't do Drugs, Drugs are bad, so let the professional druggies do Drugs for you. 537whp/496lb/tq@8-9PSI 93 octane

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brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	I doubt the new one will cost as much as TT-ing the existing one. That's 10k+. There's no way they're releasing the Z at 45k or so. Jordo! and carlitos_370z like this. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

01-15-2015, 01:11 AM	#96 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	This is what everyone has been hoping for if it happens ( I don't want to say anything definitive and jinx it). Factory turbo'ed with 335i type tuning gains in a sexy (hopefully) Z body. Jordo!, FPenvy and carlitos_370z like this. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

01-15-2015, 02:43 PM	#98 (permalink)
efuseakay Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The DAYNGA ZONE! Posts: 404 Drives: 2010 G37xS Sedan Rep Power: 15	There will be a new TOOL album before we see a new Z. Tick64, carlitos_370z and Zerocool like this.

01-15-2015, 05:25 PM	#99 (permalink)
Tick64 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Vancouver Island,Canada Posts: 341 Drives: '11 370z Nismo MB Rep Power: 2477	^^ Ha! I can't wait THAT long. efuseakay and carlitos_370z like this.

01-14-2015, 09:59 PM	#93 (permalink)
Tick64 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Vancouver Island,Canada Posts: 341 Drives: '11 370z Nismo MB Rep Power: 2477	They haven't released ANY info regarding price. I wouldn't stress about it yet man.

01-15-2015, 05:43 AM	#97 (permalink)
carlitos_370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 7,157 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z SP M6 Rep Power: 7585	sounds great to me...

01-16-2015, 06:21 AM	#101 (permalink)
Magic Bus A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Honolulu Posts: 1,427 Drives: 17 6MT M2 Rep Power: 18753	What confirmation does anyone have that it's a Mercedes engine?

01-16-2015, 06:54 AM	#102 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 417	I had hoped for a bit more top end, but that peak torque figure, and the RPM it's achieved at, sounds mm mmm good to me Bring on the smoking rubber death clouds, from obliterated rear tires carlitos_370z likes this. __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

01-16-2015, 07:56 AM	#103 (permalink)
carlitos_370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 7,157 Drives: 13 Nissan 370Z SP M6 Rep Power: 7585	can wait to see what they are going to do!!! if the body will look like a modern 280Z im going to buy one for sure

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