Thoughts on a base C6

RatedZ · 10-09-2009, 07:25 AM

Go for the Corvette. They don't overheat after 10 minutes of track use or "spirited" driving. (Hey, Nissan!

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For some reason, I find the base C6 to look "plain," but the Z06 is just...WOW!

The C6 is faster by a long stretch, and I'm sure it handles well, but as mentioned, the (interior) quality just isn't there. I've never owned one, so I can't comment on reliability.

The Vette certainly has the proper makings of a good sports car, but the body just lacks that "wow" factor for me, personally. The 370Z looks like it was designed by designers, while the Vette looks like it was done on a computer. The 370Z's curves are just gorgeous. IMO, the same can't be said for the Vette.

In the end, if I had to make up my mind between a 370Z for $39,000 or a C6 Vette for $39,000, I think I would go for the Vette just because it's such an awesome discount I'd be getting.

FricFrac · 10-09-2009, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ

Go for the Corvette. They don't overheat after 10 minutes of track use or "spirited" driving. (Hey, Nissan!

)

For some reason, I find the base C6 to look "plain," but the Z06 is just...WOW!

The C6 is faster by a long stretch, and I'm sure it handles well, but as mentioned, the (interior) quality just isn't there. I've never owned one, so I can't comment on reliability.

The Vette certainly has the proper makings of a good sports car, but the body just lacks that "wow" factor for me, personally. The 370Z looks like it was designed by designers, while the Vette looks like it was done on a computer. The 370Z's curves are just gorgeous. IMO, the same can't be said for the Vette.

In the end, if I had to make up my mind between a 370Z for $39,000 or a C6 Vette for $39,000, I think I would go for the Vette just because it's such an awesome discount I'd be getting.

Sorry but if you are going troll at least make correct statements..... hard track driving - yes it will overheat. Spiritied driving - no. Oh and don't forget to mention that this is a protection factor that Chevy, etc doesn't build into their vehicles to prevent them from causing damage from overheating or the fact that for $400 or less you can install an oil cooler and drive it hard all day on the race track......

JonBoy · 10-09-2009, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Sorry but if you are going troll at least make correct statements..... hard track driving - yes it will overheat. Spiritied driving - no. Oh and don't forget to mention that this is a protection factor that Chevy, etc doesn't build into their vehicles to prevent them from causing damage from overheating or the fact that for $400 or less you can install an oil cooler and drive it hard all day on the race track......

Chevy did build it in, through proper design. I've tracked with a bunch of guys with Vettes. One thing they DON'T do is overheat at the track and I track in Texas where it is not uncommon to run in 100*F or more in the summer.

The Vette is arguably one of the most overengineered sports cars on the planet, certainly the most overengineered for the price. The engine and drivetrain are virtually bulletproof (at stock power levels) and will handle anything you can throw at them on a track. The brakes are extremely powerful, the cooling system is robust, and the motor is far from stressed. It is a solid platform for track days.

Honestly, for a Z to go into limp mode at a track day is a slap in the face of Nissan. The Z is a focused sports car and should not have such poor stock cooling as to be unable to sustain lapping a track for 25 or 30 minutes at a time. Same things goes for the Mitsu Evo X MR (another car I've considered), which has transmission cooling issues at track days or hard canyon running.

GingaBreadMan · 10-09-2009, 02:37 PM

Get the Vette

Mike · 10-09-2009, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBoy

Chevy did build it in, through proper design. I've tracked with a bunch of guys with Vettes. One thing they DON'T do is overheat at the track and I track in Texas where it is not uncommon to run in 100*F or more in the summer..

And, they actually do have a limp mode also, its just very uncommon for the engine to get to that point. I got into it once or twice but I was running aftermarket forced induction on the racetrack, and the two just don't mix, at least without some serious engineering work. However, at oil temps of about 280ish, it will go into 'reduced engine power' mode.

JonBoy · 10-09-2009, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

And, they actually do have a limp mode also, its just very uncommon for the engine to get to that point. I got into it once or twice but I was running aftermarket forced induction on the racetrack, and the two just don't mix, at least without some serious engineering work. However, at oil temps of about 280ish, it will go into 'reduced engine power' mode.

Stock, you'll never go into limp mode. I've never heard of it happening. Maybe in an hour lapping session in Death Valley or something.

Boosted, anything is possible, but it's really beside the point. The Z does it (quickly and regularly) while stock, on a racetrack, and the Vette doesn't.

What did you have for FI on your Vette? Supercharger or turbo?

RatedZ · 10-09-2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Sorry but if you are going troll at least make correct statements..... hard track driving - yes it will overheat. Spiritied driving - no. Oh and don't forget to mention that this is a protection factor that Chevy, etc doesn't build into their vehicles to prevent them from causing damage from overheating or the fact that for $400 or less you can install an oil cooler and drive it hard all day on the race track......

"Sorry" right back at ya, slick. If you're gonna accuse somebody of being a troll, get your facts straight before you do it. Most any idiot could see the sarcasm behind the statement, so back off.

I've seen the posts on this forum from people who have taken their cars out on "spirited drives" and have seen the oil temperatures tickle 250-260 degrees. Don't feed me bs and tell me it's chocolate ice-cream.

BTW, Chevy didn't need to build in a "fail-safe factor." Their car doesn't have overheating issues.

Have a nice day.

MightyBobo · 10-09-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FricFrac

Sorry but if you are going troll at least make correct statements..... hard track driving - yes it will overheat. Spiritied driving - no. Oh and don't forget to mention that this is a protection factor that Chevy, etc doesn't build into their vehicles to prevent them from causing damage from overheating or the fact that for $400 or less you can install an oil cooler and drive it hard all day on the race track......

Wait what? The overheating thing is for protection?

No, limp mode is for protection, and as far as I know the Vette has an oil temp sensor...not that it needs one though, its track-able right away...

RatedZ · 10-09-2009, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Wait what? The overheating thing is for protection?

No, limp mode is for protection, and as far as I know the Vette has an oil temp sensor...not that it needs one though, its track-able right away...

The little hedgehog made me smile, but I couldn't help but notice that you're the second person to reply to FricFrac's "informative" post and correct him.

Modshack · 10-09-2009, 04:59 PM

The interior from 2008 isn't THAT bad.....It's a comfortable (though large) cockpit. Seats are the cheapest leather you can imagine and the wheel is from a Cobalt. All compromises to keep the cost of the rest of the hardware down. It's still a great bang for the buck that can be made to dance nicely. It's a different car than the Z. The customer base is largely anal retentive old guys with few buying the car for it's real overall performance potential, which is a shame really. Many even dial out their camber so their tires don't wear on the way to car shows. It's an image car that has a large and loyal following. That said it just wasn't me.

Interior, not so bad:

And a pretty good dance partner when you have room to roam:

My Audi buddys laughed a lot...

MightyBobo · 10-09-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RatedZ

The little hedgehog made me smile, but I couldn't help but notice that you're the second person to reply to FricFrac's "informative" post and correct him.

It was just THAT off the wall

JoeD · 10-09-2009, 05:41 PM

I've concluded that the interior of the Vette is only bad to those who have never sat in it.

I will reiterate...in terms of interior quality, feel, and design, it is no better or worse than the 370Z. Neither interior is anything to write home about, but at the same time not bad enough to show up on the radar of complaints.

You want a nice interior? Go buy a Range Rover and quit bitching. It's funny how no one seems to realize that to come close the base Corvette's performance and have a snazzy interior, one would have to move up to a $90K+ Carrera S.

frost · 10-09-2009, 05:43 PM

2 vette owners in this thread beg to differ.

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Originally Posted by JoeD

I've concluded that the interior of the Vette is only bad to those who have never sat in it.

TheWeatherman · 10-09-2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

I've concluded that the interior of the Vette is only bad to those who have never sat in it.

I will reiterate...in terms of interior quality, feel, and design, it is no better or worse than the 370Z. Neither interior is anything to write home about, but at the same time not bad enough to show up on the radar of complaints.

You want a nice interior? Go buy a Range Rover and quit bitching. It's funny how no one seems to realize that to come close the base Corvette's performance and have a snazzy interior, one would have to move up to a $90K+ Carrera S.

Range Rover? Yeah! We have 2. They're the best. Everyone should take a lesson from their interiors. We like them so much, we've ordered a 2010 Bali Blue Sport Supercharged. That will give a few people a run for their money. Hmmm, 6,000 lbs. and 0-60 in the mid-5 secs. That should give my Z a run for it's money if I have a so-so launch. My brother's Jeep SRT-8 kills me everytime though. Damn SRT-8's. That Jeep is an absolute beast. The Americans really can do some things right. It's also built well too. Sorry, I know. Off-topic.

Pharmacist · 10-09-2009, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeD

I've concluded that the interior of the Vette is only bad to those who have never sat in it.

You don't have to taste crap to recognize it's crap

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I will reiterate...in terms of interior quality, feel, and design, it is no better or worse than the 370Z. Neither interior is anything to write home about, but at the same time not bad enough to show up on the radar of complaints.

Considering a corvette is at least 1.5 times the price of a Z, that really says alot. Also, Z interior and instrument cluster are leagues ahead of the corvette.

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It's funny how no one seems to realize that to come close the base Corvette's performance and have a snazzy interior, one would have to move up to a $90K+ Carrera S.

Carrera S would destroy the base C6. It's actually a competitor for the Z06. The competitor for the base C6 is the base Carrera, and that too would blow away that plastic-bodied archaic boat into the winds.

10-09-2009, 07:25 AM	#1 (permalink)
RatedZ Base Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Kearneysville, WV Posts: 48 Drives: 94 Camaro, 05 STi Rep Power: 17	Go for the Corvette. They don't overheat after 10 minutes of track use or "spirited" driving. (Hey, Nissan! ) For some reason, I find the base C6 to look "plain," but the Z06 is just...WOW! The C6 is faster by a long stretch, and I'm sure it handles well, but as mentioned, the (interior) quality just isn't there. I've never owned one, so I can't comment on reliability. The Vette certainly has the proper makings of a good sports car, but the body just lacks that "wow" factor for me, personally. The 370Z looks like it was designed by designers, while the Vette looks like it was done on a computer. The 370Z's curves are just gorgeous. IMO, the same can't be said for the Vette. In the end, if I had to make up my mind between a 370Z for $39,000 or a C6 Vette for $39,000, I think I would go for the Vette just because it's such an awesome discount I'd be getting. __________________ 1994 Chevrolet B4C Camaro 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi

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GingaBreadMan Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: New York Posts: 313 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6spd Rep Power: 17	Get the Vette __________________ ClearBra/Debadging/Tinted Head & Taillights Coming Soon:180° Customs Headlights/ISS Forged Spyder 19" 265*305/Swift Springs/STS Rear Mount Turbo

10-09-2009, 04:59 PM	#10 (permalink)
Modshack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Greenville NC Posts: 2,883 Drives: 370Z Sport Rep Power: 978	The interior from 2008 isn't THAT bad.....It's a comfortable (though large) cockpit. Seats are the cheapest leather you can imagine and the wheel is from a Cobalt. All compromises to keep the cost of the rest of the hardware down. It's still a great bang for the buck that can be made to dance nicely. It's a different car than the Z. The customer base is largely anal retentive old guys with few buying the car for it's real overall performance potential, which is a shame really. Many even dial out their camber so their tires don't wear on the way to car shows. It's an image car that has a large and loyal following. That said it just wasn't me. Interior, not so bad: And a pretty good dance partner when you have room to roam: My Audi buddys laughed a lot... __________________ Steal my car! (SOLD)...Now Porsche Cayman S Oil Cooler DIY: Here! Last edited by Modshack; 10-09-2009 at 05:03 PM.

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10-09-2009, 05:41 PM	#12 (permalink)
JoeD Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA Posts: 495 Drives: Z Rep Power: 0	I've concluded that the interior of the Vette is only bad to those who have never sat in it. I will reiterate...in terms of interior quality, feel, and design, it is no better or worse than the 370Z. Neither interior is anything to write home about, but at the same time not bad enough to show up on the radar of complaints. You want a nice interior? Go buy a Range Rover and quit bitching. It's funny how no one seems to realize that to come close the base Corvette's performance and have a snazzy interior, one would have to move up to a $90K+ Carrera S.