435hp. we'll see. hope youre right

Nissan is run like a true business and they promote what makes Nissan
the most investment on their return..:iagree:

The new Honda civic - type r out of the box will be a great seller...

Bottom line. I'm here and were all here because we love and enjoy a 370Z..........

I'm at 72,000 miles on my 2010 Nismo and have no intentions of
changing sports cars...

-Clifford :tup:

Looks like you no longer want a true sports car, so what's your point? Go buy a WRX.

Bought my Z today. I'd buy another one every day for the rest of my life if I could. This fresh car smell. My car has an ***

Famous last words. :)

Take it as a compliment, but we all outgrow everything (clothes, houses, horsepower, speed, style, etc.).

I bet if you win the lotto or receive a substantial inheritance, you'll be buying another brand of sports car - in addition to your Z of course! :happydance:

The Mini's not even on the list, that's what I had before my Z. I think it's just the Z is in it's final run before a redesign and people are bored with it. Newer cars have more technology like lane departure, blind spot, back up camera, eco/sport modes, turbo, blue tooth, Pandora, Facebook and more stuff as standard equipment.

The second this article talked about the Z going
V8. I called garbage on this article...
why don't muscle cars go turbo v6 for better Fuel economy and equal power of the v8? Easy answer... V8 heritage...
So why the FUKK is this writer asking Nissan to leave Japanese heritage of the 6 configuration. Inline, v or turbo 6 are options. V8's in a Z is out

Secondly, the whole appeal of the Z is to be a low slung two seat sport coupe, that's a direct competition to boxster, Cayman, corvette, not mustang.

The Z us a niche car. Yes, 7500 units a year is very low. But 80,000 units should not be the Z goal. 15,000-20,000 units max annually is the proper goal for this type of niche vehicle. So full mustang stats when talking about a Z.

The only issue that's valid is the Z is underpowered for the price. So either bring the Z to a $28,000msrp or add turbos n start it at $34,000.

The FRS/BRZ IS UNDERPOWERED & OVERPRICED as well. So I laugh at there comparo. First n second year sales will always be high due to fanboy purchases. Every year after that is average Joe consumers with a very low percentage of fanboys. The twins should start at $23k n top out at $27k...

The Z is outdated in power... Yes. But at least it didn't enter that way. Remember the stanh wasn't supposed to see the 5.0 till 2013, because the Z was killing mustangs in 09, running with the brand new SS, and beating the challenger r/t in a straight line.
The muscle cars are volume sellers and have more room for flexibility. The made annual changes that made it faster than the Z.
Nissan messed up when, the made stupid DRL n fascia upgrades instead of smoothing out VVEL, increasing gear ratios, SUSPENSION TUNE and loudening up the exhaust. The 2015 NISMO is what the regular Z should have been in 2013 and the NISMO should be 400 HP. But not because it's not as good as a stang. It's because it should have been progressive. But again. Sales were weak. It was a doubled edged sword for the Z.
Hopefully NISSAN will go FI next gen n problem solved.

They didn't say the Nissan needs a V8, just that a lot of American consumers want one (which seems to be the case...). They did say the next gen needs to have a bit more punch to compete with the more torque cars, which is undoubtedly true.

The 2+2 thing isn't a deal breaker for me personally, but again, I can see where this will be fine for someone pre-family and then not so good after.

I dunno, all in all, I think those three points are all fair.

If they make the Z a 100 lbs lighter, notch up performance a smidge with either a turbo 4 or NA 6, add two faux rear seats. and keep the price in the same ball park, I think it will be a winner.

I remember when people said the z should never have a v6.



And the 5.0 was targeted for 2010 and was late...

http://www.the370z.com/members/7spee...g-2430-jpg.jpg

As most of us know, Nissan/Infiniti also needs to work on reliability.

I'm probably still in the honeymoon phase, but I want to keep the Z as my second car instead of trade it in when I move to another vehicle. It's just so damn pretty.

Late to the party here, but gimme a break - it's Consumer Reports. No self-respecting car enthusiast reads or gives half a sh** about anything CR has to say about cars.

On the other hand, I'm sure there are plenty of [fill-in the blank] who bought a Z for all the wrong reasons, decided it wasn't for them, and who do read and respond to CR surveys.

Perhaps a poll of who here reads CR for what they have to say about cars is in order.

Self disclosure -
Previously owned 240Z, (2) 300ZX 2+2;
Currently own 300ZX-TT & 370Z 40thAE

Totally :iagree:

I love Harry. IDC what CR says. :rolleyes:

Nissan gets slammed in Consumer Reports
 

This article just appeared on CNN related to Nissan's abysmal ratings.

Nissan gets slammed in Consumer Reports - Dec. 14, 2014

The Nissan Sentra ranked last in owner satisfaction among compact cars in Consumer Reports most recent owner satisfaction survey.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
Looks like something's wrong at Nissan because, according to a recent Consumer Reports survey, a lot of Nissan owners don't like their vehicles very much.

For that matter, neither do the people who work at Consumer Reports.

In the influential magazine's latest customer satisfaction survey, Nissan finished third from last in the overall brand rankings, just ahead of Mitsubishi and Daimler's (DDAIF) Smart, which sells just one super-tiny car. Added to that, Infiniti, Nissan's luxury brand, tied with Buick as the lowest-ranked luxury brand.

Of 22 Nissan and Infiniti models included in the survey, 14 of them ranked last or second-to-last-in their respective categories. In two categories -- luxury SUVs and pickups -- Nissan (NSANF) and Infiniti products ranked both last and second-to last. This wasn't always the case. Just two years ago, only three Nissan products fared so badly in this survey.

The problems stem from Nissan's most recent round of redesigns, Consumer Reports' car testers say. Starting in 2012, many of the latest generation of Nissan products haven't performed particularly well in the magazine's tests. Now owners are basically seconding what Consumer Reports' testers thought.

"They only wish they'd found out ahead of time," said Jeff Bartlett, an editor with Consumer Reports.

As CNNMoney's car critic, I'd noticed the same troubling trend. Some recent Nissan cars I've driven have seemed sadly cheaper, less refined and less enjoyable than the cars they replaced.

Nissan is addressing the criticisms, Nissan spokesman Dan Passe said. For instance, among other subtle tweaks, they're changing the computer programming that runs the transmissions in order to give the cars are more natural, responsive feel.

"Customer satisfaction is of the utmost importance to Nissan, which is why we encourage consumers to utilize the many third party resources available when researching automotive brands," Passe said in an email. "While we will study Consumer Reports' annual owner-satisfaction survey to look for areas to refine and improve our products, we also take great pride in the many other positive 3rd party assessments of our product lineup."

Nissan performed much better in market research firm J.D. Power and Associates' owner satisfaction survey. In all, seven Nissan models ranked among the top three in their respective vehicle categories in J.D. Power's survey. That's better than Honda or Toyota.

There are big differences between the J.D. Power and Consumer Reports' surveys, though. One is that J.D. Power surveys owners after just 90 days of ownership. People responding to Consumer Reports' surveys have lived with their cars much longer.

"Our respondents owned their vehicle from one to three years," Consumer Reports spokesman Matt Fields said in an email. "The honeymoon period is over."

Consumer Reports is generally considered the most influential publication among car shoppers. Owners of 350,000 cars were surveyed, including 17,500 Nissan products.

Nissan's problems with Consumer Reports readers don't seem to be hitting sales yet. Nissan's market share has actually increased somewhat this year, according to data from industry analysts at LMC Automotive. Meanwhile, Nissan's spending on financial incentives to spur sales has gone down and is now below the industry average, according to data from Edmunds.com. (Nissan still spends more than its Japan-based competitors Honda and Toyota, though.)

Disappointed owners could hurt that sales momentum down the road, though. Consumer Reports' survey asked owners if they'd buy the same vehicle again and a lot of Nissan customers have said, basically, "I'm not so sure."

At least Consumer Reports' car critics say they've been impressed with two of Nissan's most recent new products, the Rogue and Murano crossover SUVs. For the time being, though, Nissan's product line-up is, at best, inconsistent, said Gabriel Shenhar, senior auto test engineer at Consumer Reports.

"For any brand, it's important to have a clear definition," he said. "For Nissan the only thing they're known for now is they're unpredictable."

It could be worse folks. Could be like me who has a '14 Grand Cherokee SRT, is twice as expensive as my Z, and is ranked much lower than Nissan in this survey. It's my first American car. Oh well! I've already been sent 4 recall notices for little things.
Oh, and I love my Z, but I wouldnt get another. It's a stepping-stone sports car.