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ZeeBabar 11-30-2014 07:55 AM

Pros and cons, Nismo vs Sports package?
 
It appears that there is only a very small difference in power between a Nismo and a sports package coupe. If one is not interested in getting to a race track but does drive fast and aggressive, on highways and city streets, is there sufficient reasons for going for a Nismo?

rooftop 11-30-2014 08:07 AM

Go with the non nismo and do some bolt on mods

Luciano13 11-30-2014 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar (Post 3043624)
It appears that there is only a very small difference in power between a Nismo and a sports package coupe. If one is not interested in getting to a race track but does drive fast and aggressive, on highways and city streets, is there sufficient reasons for going for a Nismo?

Just in case you're not sure what the Nismo is..... it also has a complete body kit package. :tup:

Btw.... who the heck drives fast and aggressive on highways and city streets:facepalm:

Merv 11-30-2014 08:39 AM

The nismo has an upgraded suspension as well. I have a sport touring and added wheel spacers and swift springs. For 300 bucks,the springs were well worth it. It handles so much better and you don't sacrifice too much ride quality. Just the right amount of in between in my opinion. If you can get a nismo for a good price,don't hesitate. I think the nismo is for people who want a more sportier feel without having to touch the car,ie modding.

Merv 11-30-2014 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 3043682)
Just in case you're not sure what the Nismo is..... it also has a complete body kit package. :tup:

Btw.... who the heck drives fast and aggressive on highways and city streets:facepalm:

He could mean getting up to the speed limit faster than most! Lol.

mab864 11-30-2014 09:20 AM

The Nismo is mostly a body kit, some body stiffening, and a little stiffer suspension. It does have a different exhaust and some say a different tune but those are pretty lame. Nismos still need aftermarket intake, HFC, CBE, and a tune IMHO and then the Nismo and the sport put down exactly the same dyno numbers. The main difference really is the body kit. Zs are pretty rare... Nismos are really rare.

Read T 11-30-2014 09:26 AM

I got a base + sport and bought a used set of Nismo suspension, Nismo sway bars, and Nismo Exhaust all for pretty cheap. It just doesn't have the (IMO ugly) bodykit. Does great on the road and the track. If you like the bodykit and can spend that much money, go for a Nismo. or a 5.0 Mustang.

I have a Nismo hat too.

Fuzzzy 11-30-2014 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar (Post 3043624)
It appears that there is only a very small difference in power between a Nismo and a sports package coupe. If one is not interested in getting to a race track but does drive fast and aggressive, on highways and city streets, is there sufficient reasons for going for a Nismo?

As sufficient as the reasons for your most recent trade?

http://www.the370z.com/nissan-370z-g...ut-traded.html

Once infected by this particular bug, you are never cured, are you? :stirthepot:

tonythetiger 11-30-2014 11:09 AM

i would get the nismo if money is not a concern, personally i like the body kit on it

Chuck33079 11-30-2014 11:16 AM

Are you seriously considering another trade? Really?

wanker 11-30-2014 11:47 AM

Do a forum search as this topic has been beaten to death.

In sum, if you plan to mod your car the Nismo may not make economic sense for you. The performance gains of the Nismo are primarily due to the larger 60mm CBE and can be easily matched on the Sport edition with a modest investment of a new CBE and springs. With that said, the Nismo is a beautiful car and no one who buys ever regrets it, so if the Nismo speaks to you, get it.

DavidZ370 11-30-2014 12:37 PM

You need jesus.

Trips 11-30-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wanker (Post 3043822)
Do a forum search as this topic has been beaten to death.

In sum, if you plan to mod your car the Nismo may not make economic sense for you. The performance gains of the Nismo are primarily due to the larger 60mm CBE and stiffer suspension along with a body kit which can be easily matched on the Sport edition with a modest investment of a new CBE and springs. With that said, the Nismo is a beautiful car and no one who buys ever regrets it, so if the Nismo speaks to you, get it.

:iagree:

and fixed

Are WE in 2009 again?? ;)

ZeeBabar 11-30-2014 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 3043804)
Are you seriously considering another trade? Really?

No, just wondering why anyone who does not race would want a NSMO.

Rusty 11-30-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Merv (Post 3043688)
The nismo has an upgraded suspension as well. I have a sport touring and added wheel spacers and swift springs. For 300 bucks,the springs were well worth it. It handles so much better and you don't sacrifice too much ride quality. Just the right amount of in between in my opinion. If you can get a nismo for a good price,don't hesitate. I think the nismo is for people who want a more sportier feel without having to touch the car,ie modding.

:icon18: Take a look at my build thread. :shakes head:

Chuck33079 11-30-2014 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeBabar (Post 3043988)
No, just wondering why anyone who does not race would want a NSMO.


Maybe they prefer the body kit, wheels, suspension, exclusivity, etc? I'm not sure why that has to be explained. Different people place value on different things.

FL 4Motion 11-30-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3044004)
:icon18: Take a look at my build thread. :shakes head:

Or my sig, (which will need updating soon :happydance:)

Ps trips can you give me another line of text in my sig, sir?

:)

Rusty 11-30-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FL 4Motion (Post 3044019)
Or my sig, (which will need updating soon :happydance:)

Ps trips can you give me another line of text in my sig, sir?

:)

I gave up on that. Just too much. Do a journal and link it to your signature.

victort 11-30-2014 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar (Post 3043988)
No, just wondering why anyone who does not race would want a NSMO.

same can be said about the Sport package

Spooler 11-30-2014 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZeeBabar (Post 3043988)
No, just wondering why anyone who does not race would want a NSMO.

Because I always wanted one? I like the looks mucho better than the sport model.

cigarclifford 11-30-2014 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooler (Post 3044082)
Because I always wanted one? I like the looks mucho better than the sport model.

I'm with you on this one. I liked the looks back in 2010 and I still like
the looks in 2014.........

Merv 11-30-2014 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rusty (Post 3044004)
:icon18: Take a look at my build thread. :shakes head:

Lol. Yes there are exceptions. Damn mod bug!

Merv 11-30-2014 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cigarclifford (Post 3044089)
I'm with you on this one. I liked the looks back in 2010 and I still like
the looks in 2014.........

+3 :iagree::tiphat:

JC-Nismo 11-30-2014 10:59 PM

This topic comes up,on every forum:
R/T vs SRT8
335 vs M3
RS vs SS
IS350 vs ISF
and the list goes on. IMO it boils down to this, if you have the money and it's no issue you'll never even look at the base model. Let's be honest, the Nismo, just like the M3, SRT8, ISF or AMG's are the exclusive cars of the brand and all out just look better and have a few better options, but at the least, when it's all said and done you'll have the top model of that specific car brand and thats worth a lot to me cause one of my last cars was a M3 and my two current cars are a Nismo and SRT8 and as bad as I wanted a Porsche, I can honestly say that I couldn't afford the 991 Turbo and wouldn't feel right driving anything less than a Turbo model and even the 997 was a bit much for me to spend on a used Porsche. No disrespect, just my opinion.

evil370z 11-30-2014 11:08 PM

I'm going for the 2015 nismo tech for a few reasons.
1. fully loaded version
2. comes already track ready, no need for exhaust or any suspension work
3. knowing i have the power behind a car
4. the body style is sooo sexy and makes it a unique car on the road
5. we all know this one, any 370z breaks necks ;)

tnav 11-30-2014 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rooftop (Post 3043663)
Go with the non nismo and do some bolt on mods

I agree

I would only go with Nismo for the looks (I think the car is stunning) but not for power, the Nismo isn't faster than a base 370z

Luciano13 11-30-2014 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tnav (Post 3044144)
I agree

I would only go with Nismo for the looks (I think the car is stunning) but not for power, the Nismo isn't faster than a base 370z

I thought the Nismo stock has more hp than base/sport/touring stock....
Doesn't that mean more power= faster:ugh2:

FL 4Motion 12-01-2014 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3044135)
This topic comes up,on every forum:
R/T vs SRT8
335 vs M3
RS vs SS
IS350 vs ISF
and the list goes on. IMO it boils down to this, if you have the money and it's no issue you'll never even look at the base model. Let's be honest, the Nismo, just like the M3, SRT8, ISF or AMG's are the exclusive cars of the brand and all out just look better and have a few better options, but at the least, when it's all said and done you'll have the top model of that specific car brand and thats worth a lot to me cause one of my last cars was a M3 and my two current cars are a Nismo and SRT8 and as bad as I wanted a Porsche, I can honestly say that I couldn't afford the 991 Turbo and wouldn't feel right driving anything less than a Turbo model and even the 997 was a bit much for me to spend on a used Porsche. No disrespect, just my opinion.

/\ I kinda have the same mentality. I'd rather have a top of the line whatever than entry or mid level of the next higher up car. Ie. If I were to get vette, it'd be a z06. A Porsche, it'd be a cayman r or gts bc a 911 gt3 or turbo is way outta my range etc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by evil370z (Post 3044138)
I'm going for the 2015 nismo tech for a few reasons.
1. fully loaded version
2. comes already track ready, no need for exhaust or any suspension work
3. knowing i have the power behind a car
4. the body style is sooo sexy and makes it a unique car on the road
5. we all know this one, any 370z breaks necks ;)

1. Makes sense
2. It's not very track ready but just like any other z car it doesn't take much to get it there if you are just starting out and as you get more experienced, you'll mod the car as needed based on the shortcomings you have on track. One note about the aero, at least as far as the 09-14 nismos are concerned the aero is functional, don't know about the new 15 nismos yet.
3. Um ok
4. Personal preference but I agree
5. See #3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 3044154)
I thought the Nismo stock has more hp than base/sport/touring stock....
Doesn't that mean more power= faster:ugh2:

The stiffer suspension means it doesn't hook up as well for straight line performance like 0-60 and 1/4 mile. Also, 18 more hp at 350 hp total is nelgible.

JC-Nismo 12-01-2014 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tnav (Post 3044144)
I agree

I would only go with Nismo for the looks (I think the car is stunning) but not for power, the Nismo isn't faster than a base 370z

Are you sure about that...........18hp more should net something.

Nargrakhan 12-01-2014 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3044188)
Are you sure about that...........18hp more should net something.

From what others have told me, the added 18 hp barely offsets the extra weight.

JC-Nismo 12-01-2014 08:06 AM

Really? Would love test that theory........

Nargrakhan 12-01-2014 08:16 AM

I think track tests and/or number crunching was performed and there's a thread about it somewhere on this site.

My search-fu is currently lacking though.

njobe89 12-01-2014 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3044135)
This topic comes up,on every forum:
R/T vs SRT8
335 vs M3
RS vs SS
IS350 vs ISF
and the list goes on. IMO it boils down to this, if you have the money and it's no issue you'll never even look at the base model. Let's be honest, the Nismo, just like the M3, SRT8, ISF or AMG's are the exclusive cars of the brand and all out just look better and have a few better options, but at the least, when it's all said and done you'll have the top model of that specific car brand and thats worth a lot to me cause one of my last cars was a M3 and my two current cars are a Nismo and SRT8 and as bad as I wanted a Porsche, I can honestly say that I couldn't afford the 991 Turbo and wouldn't feel right driving anything less than a Turbo model and even the 997 was a bit much for me to spend on a used Porsche. No disrespect, just my opinion.

i personally just don't see the $10,000 price increase for a nismo. while the other cars you listed above there is a noticeable difference in looks and performance.

Luciano13 12-01-2014 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3044135)
This topic comes up,on every forum:
R/T vs SRT8
335 vs M3
RS vs SS
IS350 vs ISF
and the list goes on. IMO it boils down to this, if you have the money and it's no issue you'll never even look at the base model. Let's be honest, the Nismo, just like the M3, SRT8, ISF or AMG's are the exclusive cars of the brand and all out just look better and have a few better options, but at the least, when it's all said and done you'll have the top model of that specific car brand

I don't think this is truly accurate. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you'll buy the highest end model....In the end you still need to also like the top model. The Nismo, as nice of a body kit it has and extra bolt ons, I would never buy one due to the fact I wouldn't want to pay more for it to simply be taken apart....
Cars with factory aggressive full body kits are usually for people that don't want to change cosmetics too much.(IMO)

kenchan 12-01-2014 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 3044244)
From what others have told me, the added 18 hp barely offsets the extra weight.

how much you weight? :icon08:

mishuko 12-01-2014 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3044382)
how much you weight? :icon08:

apparently enough to make the PWR drop...

Duc_Z09 12-01-2014 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3044188)
Are you sure about that...........18hp more should net something.

I've been told the extra HP comes at the top of the rev band and at the expense of some mid-range. This makes sense to me as I've had this experience with motorcycles (Ducati Testastretta 11-degree vs Superbike valve timings are a good example).

The NISMO is extremely "revvy" for lack of a better word. Unless you're really hammering it, you're never going to notice the extra 18hp and it will probably be slightly slower for more "normal" driving. At 6000 rpm though, hold on tight!:driving:

OP: Go with the one you want; they're both fantastic cars. I love the exclusivity, looks, suspension, and wheels/brakes of my NISMO but I'm still jealous of the Touring interior. If you value ride quality/comfort get a base model.

mishuko 12-01-2014 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duc_Z09 (Post 3044416)
I've been told the extra HP comes at the top of the rev band and at the expense of some mid-range. This makes sense to me as I've had this experience with motorcycles (Ducati Testastretta 11-degree vs Superbike valve timings are a good example).

The NISMO is extremely "revvy" for lack of a better word. Unless you're really hammering it, you're never going to notice the extra 18hp and it will probably be slightly slower for more "normal" driving. At 6000 rpm though, hold on tight!:driving:

OP: Go with the one you want; they're both fantastic cars. I love the exclusivity, looks, suspension, and wheels/brakes of my NISMO but I'm still jealous of the Touring interior. If you value ride quality/comfort get a base model.

heck... once I rev above 4000rpm it gets fun in my sports touring!

NoLaKrewe 12-01-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3044273)
i personally just don't see the $10,000 price increase for a nismo. while the other cars you listed above there is a noticeable difference in looks and performance.

You could buy a Nismo and strip it of everything on it that says Nismo and make all your money back. I think the Nismo is fine for the price. In the end you're paying for that badge number. Something that says their is only X amount like yours. I find the Nismo to be absolutely stunning pre 2015.

njobe89 12-01-2014 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 3044470)
You could buy a Nismo and strip it of everything on it that says Nismo and make all your money back. I think the Nismo is fine for the price. In the end you're paying for that badge number. Something that says their is only X amount like yours. I find the Nismo to be absolutely stunning pre 2015.

i could find out how many models(yr, color, etc.) were made like mine and badge it myself and have the only base sport pckg with a badge. so can it be priced at 50k?

i do understand what you're saying, but from my opinion i just don't see the 10k price difference. if the engine was different then i'd be able to see it, but as it sits now i don't. again, that's just my opinion.


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