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Nargrakhan 12-01-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLaKrewe (Post 3044470)
You could buy a Nismo and strip it of everything on it that says Nismo and make all your money back. I think the Nismo is fine for the price. In the end you're paying for that badge number. Something that says their is only X amount like yours. I find the Nismo to be absolutely stunning pre 2015.

Sadly the badge number seems to have been discontinued with NISMO starting with 2015. Confirmed the Z and GT-R no longer do it. Haven't heard about the Juke yet...

NoLaKrewe 12-01-2014 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Nargrakhan (Post 3044487)
Sadly the badge number seems to have been discontinued with NISMO starting with 2015. Confirmed the Z and GT-R no longer do it. Haven't heard about the Juke yet...

Yeah, that's why I said pre 2015. Between the ugly rims and the debadging I wouldn't buy the new Nismo but the 2014 Nismo in PW or Red make me jizz. The 2013 black Nismo does the same.

Smashley 12-01-2014 01:17 PM

I never liked the NISMO Z's until 2015.(looks wise - the new wheels)
Big spoiler:ugh2: long nose:ughdance:

Only reason I would purchase a NISMO any year for the $ would be if the engine hp was significantly more powerful. The Sports/Touring looks great already.

NISMO GT-R is a perfect example vs the standard GT-R

Montez 12-01-2014 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by njobe89 (Post 3044273)
i personally just don't see the $10,000 price increase for a nismo. while the other cars you listed above there is a noticeable difference in looks and performance.

Exactly, you are getting something for the extra money! Good gains/better performance in all performance parameters, not minimal or if any at all as in the case of the Nismo vs base sports package. :icon14:

Duc_Z09 12-01-2014 03:42 PM

I probably wouldn't pay extra if I were buying new... but since I was looking used, I was happy to pick up a NISMO over a base. I've only seen 2 others and 1 was at a drive-in event a forum member was hosting.

2011 Nismo#91 12-01-2014 03:45 PM

It's more like 7.5-8k, no one really pays msrp these days. The body kit is one of two (that I know of) that actually have been proven functionally the amuse being the other. A full unpainted amuse kit is 4-5K, painting and installing will get you're getting close to the additional you pay for the car alone. Also you can sell your stock nismo body kit if you end up changing your mind, you'd be hard pressed to sell your stock body kit parts. And you still wouldn't have the whole bunch of little differences that come with it too.

Essentially what I'm saying is the extra cost is justified for what you're getting. If what you're getting isn't what you want then of course the extra cost isn't justified.

For me the look was great and what I wanted so the choice was simple. But if modding is the OP's goal then a used base model is what you want.

jpkirk 12-01-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 3043865)
You need jesus.

We all need Jesus!

Chuck33079 12-01-2014 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jpkirk (Post 3044744)
We all need Jesus!

I live in Texas. There's a Jesus everywhere. :rofl2:

evil370z 12-01-2014 04:50 PM

I pulled the trigger on the 15 nismo tech cause Im not planning on changing anything on the body. Performance wise its up there and looks wise it's one of the best looking car on the road. Only thing performance wise I would add is stillen gen 3 and that's it. I'm not a track dude or a hardcore racer. I just love the Z over roll and the 15 nismo is a eye catcher.

Hotrodz 12-01-2014 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeeBabar (Post 3043988)
No, just wondering why anyone who does not race would want a NSMO.

Why by a Porsche, Ferrari or any "real sports car"...for the sport of it!

FLUJOKE 12-01-2014 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by evil370z (Post 3044776)
I pulled the trigger on the 15 nismo tech cause Im not planning on changing anything on the body. Performance wise its up there and looks wise it's one of the best looking car on the road. Only thing performance wise I would add is stillen gen 3 and that's it. I'm not a track dude or a hardcore racer. I just love the Z over roll and the 15 nismo is a eye catcher.


Pics or it didn't happen :D

evil370z 12-01-2014 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by FLUJOKE (Post 3044910)
Pics or it didn't happen :D

dropped my deposit last week, now just waiting for my dealership to swap it with a diff dealership, will deff post pics haha

Hotrodz 12-01-2014 08:34 PM

I love these threads...some want to debate weight of the Nismo or the extra cost for the body kit and suspension when they will spend tons on carbon fiber (weighs more), another kit, and $3 to $4K on wheels that weigh more than Nismo wheels by 5lbs or more.

I drove both before buying mine, would have gone with a 5.0 Mustang if I hadn't driven the Nismo. The uniqueness of the body kit is remarkable...I get more attention than I want at times and some that is priceless. This weekend in the Phoenix area a soccer mom had to stop short at a stoplight so her son could take a picture of my car.

Buy what moves ya and don't look back! For me and the my other Nismo brothers and sisters we are :owned:

Montez 12-01-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3044937)
I love these threads...some want to debate weight of the Nismo or the extra cost for the body kit and suspension when they will spend tons on carbon fiber (weighs more), another kit, and $3 to $4K on wheels that weigh more than Nismo wheels by 5lbs or more.

I drove both before buying mine, would have gone with a 5.0 Mustang if I hadn't driven the Nismo. The uniqueness of the body kit is remarkable...I get more attention than I want at times and some that is priceless. This weekend in the Phoenix area a soccer mom had to stop short at a stoplight so her son could take a picture of my car.

Buy what moves ya and don't look back! For me and the my other Nismo brothers and sisters we are :owned:

But the 10 Nismos body kit like yours has a bit more character that will catch a wondering eye than the 15 Nismos....especially the front end, rear end and spoiler!:tup:

JC-Nismo 12-01-2014 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Luciano13 (Post 3044377)
I don't think this is truly accurate. Just because you have the money doesn't mean you'll buy the highest end model....In the end you still need to also like the top model. The Nismo, as nice of a body kit it has and extra bolt ons, I would never buy one due to the fact I wouldn't want to pay more for it to simply be taken apart....
Cars with factory aggressive full body kits are usually for people that don't want to change cosmetics too much.(IMO)

Well, I'm just going off my interaction with real car guys and most that drive base model cars say that if they had the money they would've gotten a Nismo, AMG, M, SRT ect. I don't know anyone who chose a base model over the performance model and money wasn't an issue unless there just not car guys and not saying those who drive base models are not car guys, I'm just going off the ones I KNOW and mean no disrespect to anyone and there preferences. I love my Nismo though, this car has great body lines.

http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...AC85F2F92E.jpg

JC-Nismo 12-01-2014 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz (Post 3044937)
I love these threads...some want to debate weight of the Nismo or the extra cost for the body kit and suspension when they will spend tons on carbon fiber (weighs more), another kit, and $3 to $4K on wheels that weigh more than Nismo wheels by 5lbs or more.

I drove both before buying mine, would have gone with a 5.0 Mustang if I hadn't driven the Nismo. The uniqueness of the body kit is remarkable...I get more attention than I want at times and some that is priceless. This weekend in the Phoenix area a soccer mom had to stop short at a stoplight so her son could take a picture of my car.

Buy what moves ya and don't look back! For me and the my other Nismo brothers and sisters we are :owned:

Exactly!!!

victort 12-02-2014 12:06 AM

personally not a fan of the NIsmo bodykit, but i do LOVE the nismo wheels.

nis350 12-02-2014 12:39 AM

These are good reasons. The 2015 exterior is much cleaner than the older version, especially with the smaller rear spoiler.

It is also nice to get more upgrade interior with the Nav. etc...

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Originally Posted by evil370z (Post 3044138)
I'm going for the 2015 nismo tech for a few reasons.
1. fully loaded version
2. comes already track ready, no need for exhaust or any suspension work
3. knowing i have the power behind a car
4. the body style is sooo sexy and makes it a unique car on the road
5. we all know this one, any 370z breaks necks ;)


Read T 12-02-2014 10:13 AM

^ Saying the Nismo (or any Z) is "track ready" from the factory is not true.

Unless you want your overheated, fuel-starved, car to be pulled out of the tire wall because the brakes failed.

Read T 12-02-2014 10:16 AM

Now what about Nismo RC versus Base 370? :icon17:

redstarcg 12-02-2014 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3045070)
Well, I'm just going off my interaction with real car guys and most that drive base model cars say that if they had the money they would've gotten a Nismo

I share your same logic which is why I went with the Nismo myself. I figured if I was going to spend the money on a car might as well get the best the model offers.

Read T 12-02-2014 11:08 AM

I think for most "real car guys" money is a consideration though.

kenchan 12-02-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by redstarcg (Post 3045385)
I share your same logic which is why I went with the Nismo myself. I figured if I was going to spend the money on a car might as well get the best the model offers.

but the problem with that is i could afford a nismo, but it wasnt the shape i wanted.

i still prefer the base sports-package 2009-2012's simple design.
the 2015 nismo looks terrible to me as well... :ugh:

kenchan 12-02-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 3045428)
I think for most "real car guys" money is a consideration though.

that is true. not everyone that own ferrari's and lambos are real car guys...they own them for bling factor. and as far as bling factor, they sure bling...

Skyscraper 12-02-2014 11:20 AM

All I'll say is IMO the larger rear wing on the Nismo models take away from some of the classiness of the 370 and make it look more like a toy. I much prefer the stock one on my Sport.

TerribleONE 12-02-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3045438)
that is true. not everyone that own ferrari's and lambos are real car guys...they own them for bling factor. and as far as bling factor, they sure bling...

Seems like most owners arnt car guys, at least around here.

kenchan 12-02-2014 11:37 AM

yah.. but we need rich people to keep the automotive industry going, so good for them regardless of them being car guys or not. :icon17: haha
just give them the moment of glory.

mishuko 12-02-2014 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 3045472)
yah.. but we need rich people to keep the automotive industry going, so good for them regardless of them being car guys or not. :icon17: haha
just give them the moment of glory.

unfortunately i read in an article a few weeks back that more canadians are taking out longer car loans... the average loan went up by 6months. there have been a big increase in longer loands (5-7 years) as opposed to the 4 year car loans previously offered.

the whole article explained how you're negative equity for a good 2/3 of if and when its time to sell you may or may not have a car in your posession that's viable for sale!

redstarcg 12-02-2014 01:27 PM

That's where I also agree. If you don't like how Nismo looks no reason to get it. Pointless.

I honestly dont even care for the suspension or exhaust, I just like the bodykit. I wanted a new car and after doing the numbers to get a real amuse kit with a real paintjob to match it would cost the same if not more. So I just got a nismo. Now I plan on upgrading to coilovers and exhaust etc.

So if it wasnt for the look I would also myself get a base, well actually I would go for touring because of the nicer interior. I feel like the Nismo interior is a bit lame compared to touring.

mishuko 12-02-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by redstarcg (Post 3045563)
That's where I also agree. If you don't like how Nismo looks no reason to get it. Pointless.

I honestly dont even care for the suspension or exhaust, I just like the bodykit. I wanted a new car and after doing the numbers to get a real amuse kit with a real paintjob to match it would cost the same if not more. So I just got a nismo. Now I plan on upgrading to coilovers and exhaust etc.

So if it wasnt for the look I would also myself get a base, well actually I would go for touring because of the nicer interior. I feel like the Nismo interior is a bit lame compared to touring.

but your seats > our seats... unless you prefer the power + heating (my gf likes this)


i guess that's an argument in the sense of this slight convenience.

nis350 12-02-2014 02:38 PM

There is no better or worse style here. It is just a matter of personal preferences. Just because one prefers one style over the other, it doesn't make it worse.

Car guy or not, rich or poor, just get the one that suit you and make you happy. ;)

redstarcg 12-02-2014 02:53 PM

At the end of the day, they are still all 370z's :D

JC-Nismo 12-02-2014 05:19 PM

Base model Z is docile to me and too soft for my taste, but in all honestly I'm disappointed in the Z brand entirely. I remember the 90-91 Twin Turbo Z was in comparison with dam near every high performance car on the market, Corvette, NSX, Ferrari 360, Supra, 911 Turbo ect. Now it's in the company of a Hyundai Genesis, BRZ, WRX/STI, Golf GTI, 335i ect. Sad thing is this......... Both the Supra and NSX will reamerge soon and they'll be nothing short of borderline exotics and that's where the Z should be. Of course the GTR is in its place, but the Z was a solid contender at one point up in those ranks and as much as I love it, it needs to be in comparison with at least the M4, C63, RS5, C7 the new RC-F. Just my opinion.

victort 12-02-2014 09:16 PM

honestly, i never saw the 300ZX as competitors with the likes of the NSX, SUpra, etc. GTR R34 on the other hand....

nis350 12-03-2014 12:17 AM

Well, many of us probably can't afford it if the Z is a borderline exotics like the 2nd generation NSX or even the 1st generation which cost around $90k in 2005.

Who cares what the Z compares to. Most of us have a budget and get whatever is best for us.

Personally I am glad that Nissan made the Z affordable for us.

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Originally Posted by JC-Nismo (Post 3045824)
Base model Z is docile to me and too soft for my taste, but in all honestly I'm disappointed in the Z brand entirely. I remember the 90-91 Twin Turbo Z was in comparison with dam near every high performance car on the market, Corvette, NSX, Ferrari 360, Supra, 911 Turbo ect. Now it's in the company of a Hyundai Genesis, BRZ, WRX/STI, Golf GTI, 335i ect. Sad thing is this......... Both the Supra and NSX will reamerge soon and they'll be nothing short of borderline exotics and that's where the Z should be. Of course the GTR is in its place, but the Z was a solid contender at one point up in those ranks and as much as I love it, it needs to be in comparison with at least the M4, C63, RS5, C7 the new RC-F. Just my opinion.


NoLaKrewe 12-03-2014 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3046137)
Well, many of us probably can't afford it if the Z is a borderline exotics like the 2nd generation NSX or even the 1st generation which cost around $90k in 2005.

Who cares what the Z compares to. Most of us have a budget and get whatever is best for us.

Personally I am glad that Nissan made the Z affordable for us.

Amen. Their will always be faster cars for the money. I want what the Z car. No car IMO has the lines and *** like a Z.

JC-Nismo 12-03-2014 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by victort (Post 3046056)
honestly, i never saw the 300ZX as competitors with the likes of the NSX, SUpra, etc. GTR R34 on the other hand....

And what world were you living in at the time??? Twin Turbo Z was top ranked at that time on the streets.

JC-Nismo 12-03-2014 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3046137)
Well, many of us probably can't afford it if the Z is a borderline exotics like the 2nd generation NSX or even the 1st generation which cost around $90k in 2005.

Who cares what the Z compares to. Most of us have a budget and get whatever is best for us.

Personally I am glad that Nissan made the Z affordable for us.

If that works for you, then that's very nice.

dotcomee 12-03-2014 02:12 AM

I looked at the nismo and prefer the sport looks. For what I do with it, the performance difference (what little there is) doesn't matter. I'm not a car guy, but I love cars. Not sure if that counts or if I just proved an earlier point.

Either way, the choice is definitely first world problems. Kind of like did you buy a Patek Phillipe or an Omega watch? Both of them are great, but one is obviously better... right? (or so the price tags tell us) Did you sign your sales contract with a Montblanc or a Parker? Montblanc's definitely perform and look better... :stirthepot:

Nargrakhan 12-03-2014 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by nis350 (Post 3046137)
Personally I am glad that Nissan made the Z affordable for us.

Totally. An affordable Z is awesome business. However with the NISMO editions, Nissan shows it's willing to make a "premium cost" version with extra fixings.

So keep the affordable base Z models, but I'm fine with them also providing an expensive version with more power/goodies. Some of us have the extra $$$ to splurge if it's enticing enough. Protip: Don't get married. ;)


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