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Originally Posted by tag824 Seems that all new cars are not living up to expectations. I've read Nissan is debating on dropping the Z and make something that will compete

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Old 12-17-2014, 01:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Seems that all new cars are not living up to expectations. I've read Nissan is debating on dropping the Z and make something that will compete with the FR-S/BRZ. Everyone's also going to smaller displacement blown motors with sound tracks pumped into the cabin (cuz they sound shitty), electric steering (for more fuel economy) which sucks ballz and they are even replacing the spare tire with cheap repair kits.

Notable let downs this year...
  • M4 has so much torque that it actually oversteers when you put down power that it hurts it performance in the twisties. Haven't driven it but have seen numerous reviews that all have the same consensus.
  • Mustang is bigger, heavier and slower in straight line than the previous gen.
  • Lexus RC F is a freaking pig at 4k lbs! Dafuq were they thinking?
Honestly the only recently new car that's been a pleasant surprise has been the vette, if you can get past its hideous rear end. I really don't have high hopes for any new cars as there's so much competition, seems like the marketing mantra now is a "world car" which means they must meet all types of international regulations and standards which leads to compromises. I'm looking forward to the next car that will surprise me, whatever that may be, but until then not getting too optimistic.

On the bright side, gas is pretty cheap.
Ever heard of throttle control? First time iv ever heard of someone complaining about a TT 6 cylinder making too much torque..

Edit: Also, do you have any idea what a GT-R weighs? Last I checked that isn't holding it back from making it around some corners.
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Ever heard of throttle control? First time iv ever heard of someone complaining about a TT 6 cylinder making too much torque..
Go read/watch all the track reviews which are done by professional race drivers. For instance, Randy Pobst drove the M4 and the RC F on the track. The M4 won by only 3 tenths a second because the cars got too much oversteer. It's the reoccuring theme in every track review. The car could be faster if it wasn't so tail happy in the corners.

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Edit: Also, do you have any idea what a GT-R weighs? Last I checked that isn't holding it back from making it around some corners.
Ever heard of AWD? The GT-R is known for having the most sophisticated AWD system in the world which is why it can overcome it's weight issue. On an interesting note, the BMW M235i AWD version is one car that I find exciting and yes, I've driven it. Actually the new M2 is one car I'm keeping my eye out for.
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On an interesting note, the BMW M235i AWD version is one car that I find exciting and yes, I've driven it. Actually the new M2 is one car I'm keeping my eye out for.
them 2 series look so weird. looks like a civic dat wants to turn into a man.
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Edit: Also, do you have any idea what a GT-R weighs? Last I checked that isn't holding it back from making it around some corners.
AWD helps. If the other car is also AWD, then it's just bad chassis engineering.
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AWD helps. If the other car is also AWD, then it's just bad chassis engineering.
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