370z Vs. 335i

Crash · 02-02-2009, 08:42 PM

I look forward to turboing my 370z almost immediately after I buy it. I think turboing is the ONLY way to go if you don't have the displacement and room to grow in the motor like an American V8.

The 335i isn't all that special to me. The new M3 is an amazing looking car and performs like it looks. But to get that you have to shell out so much more. The Z is a bang for the buck car, but like frogman said, the N/A mods are going to be way less bang for the buck with the Z.

Namir · 02-02-2009, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crash

I look forward to turboing my 370z almost immediately after I buy it. I think turboing is the ONLY way to go if you don't have the displacement and room to grow in the motor like an American V8.

The 335i isn't all that special to me. The new M3 is an amazing looking car and performs like it looks. But to get that you have to shell out so much more. The Z is a bang for the buck car, but like frogman said, the N/A mods are going to be way less bang for the buck with the Z.

You talk about bang for the buck but you say you are going to turbo your Z immediately?

New Z is going to be 33-43k depending on what options you get, + at least 10k for a turbo set up with proper tuning, and then all the supporting chassis/engine modification to make it a balanced car it'll likely be around 15k before you are said and done. That brings your total to 48-58k dollars with no warranty.
Those 'expensive' 335s and M3's don't sound like such a bad deal after all. Especially since they can be had for invoice and under.

Just playing devil's advocate, I still love the Z

Lug · 02-03-2009, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Namir

You talk about bang for the buck but you say you are going to turbo your Z immediately?

New Z is going to be 33-43k depending on what options you get, + at least 10k for a turbo set up with proper tuning, and then all the supporting chassis/engine modification to make it a balanced car it'll likely be around 15k before you are said and done. That brings your total to 48-58k dollars with no warranty.
Those 'expensive' 335s and M3's don't sound like such a bad deal after all. Especially since they can be had for invoice and under.

Just playing devil's advocate, I still love the Z

I'd assume he'd want to bump the performance of the 335i as well since it's performance won't quite equal a stock 370Z.

Crash · 02-03-2009, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Namir

You talk about bang for the buck but you say you are going to turbo your Z immediately?

New Z is going to be 33-43k depending on what options you get, + at least 10k for a turbo set up with proper tuning, and then all the supporting chassis/engine modification to make it a balanced car it'll likely be around 15k before you are said and done. That brings your total to 48-58k dollars with no warranty.
Those 'expensive' 335s and M3's don't sound like such a bad deal after all. Especially since they can be had for invoice and under.

Just playing devil's advocate, I still love the Z

The M3 isn't putting 500HP down to the ground. And yes, I'm planning on spending that much on my car, but I'm not everyone else. Most people will not be turboing their cars. The block may not have a warranty, but everything else will. If I crack the block, that's on me (just like if you made a 500HP M3) and I'd replace it with a sleeved forged block.

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Originally Posted by Lug

I'd assume he'd want to bump the performance of the 335i as well since it's performance won't quite equal a stock 370Z.

Exactly. I'm going for full performance. Anyone who races knows you've got to modify your car to do what you want it to do on the track. They're going to void their warranty anyway. If you bought an M3 for daily driving and you don't plan to modify it, good for you! But if you're going to race it, it's better to start with a cheaper platform that already performs well.

BerkTech · 02-03-2009, 02:33 AM

Coming from someone who's seen both....

They're two cars at almost opposite ends of the spectrum. Both are "sporty" cars, but one is SOOOO German and one is SOOOO Japanese.

Anyone who loves the styling of the Z, isn't going to really go for the BMW styling which hasn't changed much over the years.

As far as the interiors go, the BMW's do have a plain interior, but they are designed for the driver. Not the prettiest looking dashboard layouts but they are almost a study in pure function.

Throwing a few dollars into the 135 or 335 will beat a 370 in a straight line. Boosted engines are just easier to turn a knob and get 40 more HP out of it.

However, in the twisties the 370Z has a superior suspension layout and can be taken further than the bimmer. If you had a budget of $20K for either car, you'll be able take the Z further than the BMW's.

We know Z's!

and we know BMW's!

But our next car will be a................

370Z!

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BerkTech The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Irvine CA Posts: 279 Drives: Lots.... Rep Power: 273	Coming from someone who's seen both.... They're two cars at almost opposite ends of the spectrum. Both are "sporty" cars, but one is SOOOO German and one is SOOOO Japanese. Anyone who loves the styling of the Z, isn't going to really go for the BMW styling which hasn't changed much over the years. As far as the interiors go, the BMW's do have a plain interior, but they are designed for the driver. Not the prettiest looking dashboard layouts but they are almost a study in pure function. Throwing a few dollars into the 135 or 335 will beat a 370 in a straight line. Boosted engines are just easier to turn a knob and get 40 more HP out of it. However, in the twisties the 370Z has a superior suspension layout and can be taken further than the bimmer. If you had a budget of $20K for either car, you'll be able take the Z further than the BMW's. We know Z's! and we know BMW's! But our next car will be a................ 370Z! . __________________ While the others type fast... Berk Technology goes fast.... See you at the track! OUR NEW PHONE NUMBER: (714) 546-BERK READ THE BERK BLOG HERE