Why does the 370z get so much disrespect...

JAKES Z · 11-04-2014, 01:57 PM

People have the same lack of power complaint about the 370Z, and rightfully so. In 03 the 350Z was putting out 287HP and that was ~10% higher than the 03 Mustang GT. From 04-08 the 350Z was pushed up to 306HP so it stayed close to the other cars in its class in power.

With the 370Z in 09 it was ahead of the Mustang GTs. But when the 11 GTs came out with the 412HP V8s and then bumping it to 420HP, the Z was left behind. Then the Camaros and Challengers came out and both offer more power than the Z. Even the Genesis can come with a NA V6 pushing out 348HP.

Needless to say the BRZ/FRS is below this tier of vehicles that the Z is in. But much like the Z owners compare their car to the performance of the lowest end Porsche, the BRZ/FRS owners compare their car to the sports car on the next price tier up. People just like to feel they got good value for the money spent, in my opinion.

Tadpole · 11-04-2014, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JAKES Z

People have the same lack of power complaint about the 370Z, and rightfully so. In 03 the 350Z was putting out 287HP and that was ~10% higher than the 03 Mustang GT. From 04-08 the 350Z was pushed up to 306HP so it stayed close to the other cars in its class in power.

With the 370Z in 09 it was ahead of the Mustang GTs. But when the 11 GTs came out with the 412HP V8s and then bumping it to 420HP, the Z was left behind. Then the Camaros and Challengers came out and both offer more power than the Z. Even the Genesis can come with a NA V6 pushing out 348HP.

Needless to say the BRZ/FRS is below this tier of vehicles that the Z is in. But much like the Z owners compare their car to the performance of the lowest end Porsche, the BRZ/FRS owners compare their car to the sports car on the next price tier up. People just like to feel they got good value for the money spent, in my opinion.

Have you ever raced them at the drag strip? I smoke the challengers and beat the 5.0's often. The look on their face is priceless and I have only seen one BRZ there with a turbo setup. He wanted to race me and stated that he ran a 13.8 with it. He asked me what I was running and I told him my best time for the night was a 13.3. He shied away after that with no interest in running against my Z.

brucelidat · 11-04-2014, 05:34 PM

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Have you ever raced them at the drag strip? I smoke the challengers and beat the 5.0's often. The look on their face is priceless and I have only seen one BRZ there with a turbo setup. He wanted to race me and stated that he ran a 13.8 with it. He asked me what I was running and I told him my best time for the night was a 13.3. He shied away after that with no interest in running against my Z.

From everything I have read, the 5.0 should be faster than our Zs in the 1/4 mile. What were their trap speeds compared to yours?

scorp38 · 11-04-2014, 05:36 PM

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From everything I have read, the 5.0 should be faster than our Zs in the 1/4 mile. What were their trap speeds compared to yours?

The coyote 5.0s should beat the 370z in a straight line I think they run 5 sec 0-60

MJB · 11-04-2014, 05:48 PM

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The coyote 5.0s should beat the 370z in a straight line I think they run 5 sec 0-60

A 13' 5.0 weighs 3622lbs, 0-60mph in 4.3sec and 1/4 in 12.7sec @ 111mph. They come with an actual LSD, and handle alot better than what you guys think.

Specs came from MT, and testing was done with 6mt. I'm sure their auto is a little faster.

scorp38 · 11-04-2014, 06:10 PM

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A 13' 5.0 weighs 3622lbs, 0-60mph in 4.3sec and 1/4 in 12.7sec @ 111mph. They come with an actual LSD, and handle alot better than what you guys think.

Specs came from MT, and testing was done with 6mt. I'm sure their auto is a little faster.

Yeah their quick and with the 2015 gaining IRS they should pretty much crap on us

Tadpole · 11-04-2014, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

From everything I have read, the 5.0 should be faster than our Zs in the 1/4 mile. What were their trap speeds compared to yours?

By paper the 5.0 is faster. It's launching then that kills them at the strip. For all the average Joes it's a drivers race. The automatic Z launches hard and quick while the stang hops and jumps out the hole. The challengers are overweight and can easily be beat. Camaros are the same too. Once they put a few mods on them it's over tho but stock for stock the 6 banger Z will win more than you think.

MJB · 11-04-2014, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Tadpole

By paper the 5.0 is faster. It's launching then that kills them at the strip. For all the average Joes it's a drivers race. The automatic Z launches hard and quick while the stang hops and jumps out the hole. The challengers are overweight and can easily be beat. Camaros are the same too. Once they put a few mods on them it's over tho but stock for stock the 6 banger Z will win more than you think.

But you are talking about driver skill, not the capabilities of the car.

scorp38 · 11-04-2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JAKES Z

People have the same lack of power complaint about the 370Z, and rightfully so. In 03 the 350Z was putting out 287HP and that was ~10% higher than the 03 Mustang GT. From 04-08 the 350Z was pushed up to 306HP so it stayed close to the other cars in its class in power.

With the 370Z in 09 it was ahead of the Mustang GTs. But when the 11 GTs came out with the 412HP V8s and then bumping it to 420HP, the Z was left behind. Then the Camaros and Challengers came out and both offer more power than the Z. Even the Genesis can come with a NA V6 pushing out 348HP.

Needless to say the BRZ/FRS is below this tier of vehicles that the Z is in. But much like the Z owners compare their car to the performance of the lowest end Porsche, the BRZ/FRS owners compare their car to the sports car on the next price tier up. People just like to feel they got good value for the money spent, in my opinion.

Yes but challengers weigh literally 2.2 tons and the mustang like 3800 or something like that that's a lot of fat *** to move around. They need the extra power.

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JAKES Z Base Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 16 Drives: 2016 AWD Rogue Rep Power: 16	People have the same lack of power complaint about the 370Z, and rightfully so. In 03 the 350Z was putting out 287HP and that was ~10% higher than the 03 Mustang GT. From 04-08 the 350Z was pushed up to 306HP so it stayed close to the other cars in its class in power. With the 370Z in 09 it was ahead of the Mustang GTs. But when the 11 GTs came out with the 412HP V8s and then bumping it to 420HP, the Z was left behind. Then the Camaros and Challengers came out and both offer more power than the Z. Even the Genesis can come with a NA V6 pushing out 348HP. Needless to say the BRZ/FRS is below this tier of vehicles that the Z is in. But much like the Z owners compare their car to the performance of the lowest end Porsche, the BRZ/FRS owners compare their car to the sports car on the next price tier up. People just like to feel they got good value for the money spent, in my opinion. __________________ 2015 Lexus IS 350 AWD F Sport PW/RR 2010 Nissan 370Z Base PW M6 -- sold 2003 Nissan 350Z Touring MB M6 -- sold