CSC and a Clutch question?

209Z · 04-16-2015, 10:38 PM

So my Z Just hit 67k and is in need of a new clutch. I am leaning towards JWT. But I heard anytime you upgrade the clutch you need to get a new CSC? I daily this car and track it maybe 3 times a year. people tell me that CSC will fail sooner or later so should I get the CSC now to save me the trouble or would I be okay to just get the JWT clutch. I am on a budget and not looking to spend a grip. Your suggestions are very much appreciated .

dP3NGU1N · 04-16-2015, 11:10 PM

Swap it out for an HD CSC. It's not that much more.

BOLIO 671 · 04-17-2015, 02:41 AM

You should just swap it out....u will actually save time or money on the labor because your already in there to change the clutch and pressure plate....an aftermarket clutch and pressure plate will wear ur CSC out then u will end up paying more (time/$$$) to have the transmission taken down again. The OEM CSC is made of Plastic and Rubber material.....The HD CSC out in the market are superior in quality and performance. It's well worth the money to avoid the headache

Merv · 04-17-2015, 06:45 AM

I believe z1(a forum sponsor) has a csc elimination kit that's worth looking into.

Z1 Motorsports: Clutch Concentric Slave Cylinder Elimination Kit

njobe89 · 04-17-2015, 07:54 AM

i think what's more impressive here is that you're at 67k and the csc hasn't failed on you yet lol. i have hope for mine then

kenchan · 04-17-2015, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

i think what's more impressive here is that you're at 67k and the csc hasn't failed on you yet lol. i have hope for mine then

clifford has a nismo with 70k or something he said and his is fine too.

i think you either get a defective one, or people are just too brutal on their clutches.

that said, id swap for the aftermarket csc while the tech has the tranny apart just to rid this potential failure all together.

kenchan · 04-17-2015, 09:32 AM

then next week... crap my engine quit after a hard right turn..?

njobe89 · 04-17-2015, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

clifford has a nismo with 70k or something he said and his is fine too.

i think you either get a defective one, or people are just too brutal on their clutches.

that said, id swap for the aftermarket csc while the tech has the tranny apart just to rid this potential failure all together.

Chuck33079 · 04-17-2015, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by njobe89

Except that it looks like a huge percentage of them are defective since it's an incredibly failure prone design. Plastic never should have been used. This was the accountants overruling the engineers.

njobe89 · 04-17-2015, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Except that it looks like a huge percentage of them are defective since it's an incredibly failure prone design. Plastic never should have been used. This was the accountants overruling the engineers.

lol probably... but, yes the plastic fails and wham bam the csc went out.

209Z · 04-17-2015, 10:14 AM

So now the question zspeed or z1 csc? Leaning towards the zspeed because it is a good a price.

Chuck33079 · 04-17-2015, 10:34 AM

The Z1 is a better solution. The ZSpeed has more of a proven track record. You won't really go wrong with either.

cigarclifford · 04-17-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

clifford has a nismo with 70k or something he said and his is fine too.

i think you either get a defective one, or people are just too brutal on their clutches.

that said, id swap for the aftermarket csc while the tech has the tranny apart just to rid this potential failure all together.

Greeting's Doctor Ken Chan, you are correct and have logged 75,000 miles
with zero issues as of to date. As the forum knows Clifford daily drives
his 2010 Nismo and pays attention to every fluid change and always
follows a comprehensive maintenance schedule. I am not a mechanic but
buy joining the 370Z forum I have learned a lot from sincere posters that
are here to help all of us.

-Clifford

Haboob · 04-17-2015, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Except that it looks like a huge percentage of them are defective since it's an incredibly failure prone design. Plastic never should have been used. This was the accountants overruling the engineers.

I wonder if weather conditions (too cold or too hot (parking/sitting in the sun)) that contributed to the plastic wearing or becoming brittle and failing?

I am every wary of mine failing, but I can't just go out and buy one right now. I can't spend that kind of money unless I have to, unfortunately.

Chuck33079 · 04-17-2015, 10:55 AM

It's a $300 part. Why not buy one and mothball it for when the stock unit fails?

04-16-2015, 10:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
209Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stockton, Cali (209) Posts: 1,058 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 278	CSC and a Clutch question? So my Z Just hit 67k and is in need of a new clutch. I am leaning towards JWT. But I heard anytime you upgrade the clutch you need to get a new CSC? I daily this car and track it maybe 3 times a year. people tell me that CSC will fail sooner or later so should I get the CSC now to save me the trouble or would I be okay to just get the JWT clutch. I am on a budget and not looking to spend a grip. Your suggestions are very much appreciated . __________________ Team Blur My Build Thread Fast Intentions\|KWS\|BERK\|Carbon Fiber Element\| SEIBON\|Memphis Car Audio\| Status Autoworks\|Lusso Forged\|Autohaus\|PWJDM\|SPC

04-16-2015, 11:10 PM	#2 (permalink)
dP3NGU1N A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Irvine Posts: 1,682 Drives: 13 PW sport 6mt Rep Power: 18	Swap it out for an HD CSC. It's not that much more. __________________ 35% Hooper Optik \| Takeda Attack CAI \| F.I. HFC \| Hotchkis Sway Bar \| Stillen 24row \| OS Giken Super Lock LSD \| TK Shift Knob \| EVO-R Carbon Diffuser

04-17-2015, 02:41 AM	#3 (permalink)
BOLIO 671 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: GUAHAN Posts: 1,198 Drives: To & From then Back Rep Power: 3399	You should just swap it out....u will actually save time or money on the labor because your already in there to change the clutch and pressure plate....an aftermarket clutch and pressure plate will wear ur CSC out then u will end up paying more (time/$$$) to have the transmission taken down again. The OEM CSC is made of Plastic and Rubber material.....The HD CSC out in the market are superior in quality and performance. It's well worth the money to avoid the headache Merv likes this. __________________ 2013 Nismo Z34 / FI TT #091 / IG: @lilzilla_z34

04-17-2015, 06:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Merv Track Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Vancouver B.C Posts: 518 Drives: 11 GM grey sport tou Rep Power: 14	I believe z1(a forum sponsor) has a csc elimination kit that's worth looking into. Z1 Motorsports: Clutch Concentric Slave Cylinder Elimination Kit __________________ Swift springs \| upgraded headlights \| stillen gen3 cai \| FI HFC's and FI CBE \| ecutek tune in the mail! Last edited by Merv; 04-17-2015 at 06:47 AM.

04-17-2015, 07:54 AM	#5 (permalink)
njobe89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2014 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 5,227 Drives: 2013 370z BS 6MT Rep Power: 174283	i think what's more impressive here is that you're at 67k and the csc hasn't failed on you yet lol. i have hope for mine then tnav likes this. __________________ 2 plus 2 times 2 = ? ... hint, it's not 8 Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

04-17-2015, 09:32 AM	#7 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	then next week... crap my engine quit after a hard right turn..?

04-17-2015, 10:14 AM	#11 (permalink)
209Z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Stockton, Cali (209) Posts: 1,058 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 278	So now the question zspeed or z1 csc? Leaning towards the zspeed because it is a good a price. __________________ Team Blur My Build Thread Fast Intentions\|KWS\|BERK\|Carbon Fiber Element\| SEIBON\|Memphis Car Audio\| Status Autoworks\|Lusso Forged\|Autohaus\|PWJDM\|SPC

04-17-2015, 10:34 AM	#12 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	The Z1 is a better solution. The ZSpeed has more of a proven track record. You won't really go wrong with either. __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

04-17-2015, 10:55 AM	#15 (permalink)
Chuck33079 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 12,265 Drives: 2011 370ztt Rep Power: 29538	It's a $300 part. Why not buy one and mothball it for when the stock unit fails? __________________ 2011 MB Touring-Sport-6sp-Nav/GTM TT/FI TT TDX/JTran/Kosmic/Eibach/Hotchkis/SPC/CSF/RPS/SoThatsWhereAllMyMoneyWent

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