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Yea were pretty lucky Ford pumps out like 30,000 mustangs a month and I think nissan sells around like 9000 Z's a year in the states.

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Old 08-16-2014, 09:43 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Yea were pretty lucky Ford pumps out like 30,000 mustangs a month and I think nissan sells around like 9000 Z's a year in the states.
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Like the Z32, Nissan should do 3 versions: NA V6 with 300ish hp; 6-cyl turbo with 400+ hp a la BMW M4/M3; and last but definitely not least....HYBRID with close to 400 if not more hp.

I know some of you dislike hybrids. But the world is changing and so are gas prices Ride in a Tesla P85 and you will see how instantaneous electric torque is. It's GT-R or Vette C7 torque from a standstill.
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I would never pay 60k for a Z. Too much money. Used GTR is at about 65k.
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Used GTR is at about 65k.
you can soon buy a charger hellcat new for 63k
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Exactly if it's actually worth 60K meaning it's competitive with other cars in its price range like a new C7 people will buy it.
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Exactly if it's actually worth 60K meaning it's competitive with other cars in its price range like a new C7 people will buy it.
Exactly, if it's got the quality and specifications to compete at the $60k level then it could certainly be successful. It's not like they're going to put that price tag on something with the current Z's performance.

That being said, I hope they don't take it that high as then I'll definitely be priced out of the market!
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^remember guys, when the Z32 TT debuted it was a direct competitor to C4 Vette. The people saw it that way too. They had about the same level of hp, 0-60; 1/4 times, MSRP, etc. But Nissan had to put the Z on hiatus because the SUV craze came into play during the mid 90s and on because the trend was changing. The Z33 imo was a let down. Watered down, styling was kinda cheap and plasticky, and the C5, C6 Vettes were a step above it in price, performance, etc.

If the next Z can make at least 400hp, do 12-sec range 1/4s, etc....people will pay $60K for it. It will be a direct competitor to C7 Vette...then, the Z06/ZR1 will be the direct competitor to the GT-R....But I gotta feeling Nissan is gonna cheapen down the Z to make it a mass market sports car like the BRC Scion...whatever that Beans Rice and Cheesy thing is supposed to be.
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^remember guys, when the Z32 TT debuted it was a direct competitor to C4 Vette. The people saw it that way too. They had about the same level of hp, 0-60; 1/4 times, MSRP, etc. But Nissan had to put the Z on hiatus because the SUV craze came into play during the mid 90s and on because the trend was changing. The Z33 imo was a let down. Watered down, styling was kinda cheap and plasticky, and the C5, C6 Vettes were a step above it in price, performance, etc.

If the next Z can make at least 400hp, do 12-sec range 1/4s, etc....people will pay $60K for it. It will be a direct competitor to C7 Vette...then, the Z06/ZR1 will be the direct competitor to the GT-R....But I gotta feeling Nissan is gonna cheapen down the Z to make it a mass market sports car like the BRC Scion...whatever that Beans Rice and Cheesy thing is supposed to be.
No one will pay for A $60k Z. Going upmarket due to the state of the yen is what killed the Z32. Not so much SUV'S People expect a Z to be less than a vette with near performance. At $38k the Z32 was selling. At $50k it did nothing. Same will happen if we go upmarket
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No one will pay for A $60k Z. Going upmarket due to the state of the yen is what killed the Z32. Not so much SUV'S People expect a Z to be less than a vette with near performance. At $38k the Z32 was selling. At $50k it did nothing. Same will happen if we go upmarket
Again, if it has the right specs to back up going upmarket, people will buy it, including myself. There's a huge difference between pricing it up because of the yen (as with the later years of the z32) and pricing it there because thats the price it can command based on what it offers. Why are people so fixated on a cheap price yet complain about not having enough performance/options. If the current z34 went for $60k you're right no one would buy it. But this, hopefully, will be a different formula than the Z34

The z32 was also long in tooth when it was discontinued, coupled with Nissans financial troubles, increasing emissions standards and the rising yen. When a company is near bankruptcy, they have to cut fast. The Z had always been a niche car and will never sell in the masses like the vette which unfortunately adversely affects the pricing. I don't get it, people will rave about a vette, who until recently was a cheaply built car for $60k that only offered raw power. Yet the idea of a Nissan Z that could rival it in the $50k range is so absurd? Seems like majority here want vette power, Porsche refinement at a BRZ price.
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No one will pay for A $60k Z. Going upmarket due to the state of the yen is what killed the Z32. Not so much SUV'S People expect a Z to be less than a vette with near performance. At $38k the Z32 was selling. At $50k it did nothing. Same will happen if we go upmarket
1.03^24=2.03; let's just say double.

$35,000 (MSRP Z32 TT in 1990) x 2 = $70,000

They were paying $70,000 in 1990 dollars. Speak for yourself. People will pay $60K+ for the next Z, in 2015/6, if it delivers.
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No way it would be cheaper than the current Z. But if the 60k stays, I'd rather pick up a used GTR or a used mdded E92 M3 instead.
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Off topic again looks like the Z06/ZR1 may be mid engine along with the next gen corvette the C8. Ok chevy you got my attention now go through with it..

http://carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/17/Th...gined-7722052/
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Off topic again looks like the Z06/ZR1 may be mid engine along with the next gen corvette the C8. Ok chevy you got my attention now go through with it..

The Next Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 Will be Mid-Engined
Looks like an NSX. At least, what the NSX should be...if it wasn't catching fire....
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Those are all very old concepts as Chevy has dangled this in front of us for decades but the author makes some very good points as to why all signs point to them fallowing through this time. I'll always prefer Japanese design over American but there is something about a mid engined V8 that I may actually be able to afford that gives me goosebumps. It's gonna be an amazing next couple of years to be a car enthusiast.
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Found this
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