More info on the next 370Z

njobe89

we like problemz

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Stillen CBE, Stillen Gen 3, TP's, Uprev tuned - 324whp/264tq

watson853

Don't forget the next gen gtr rumors are pretty crazy and if prove to be true give the Z even more room to grow up a little bit..

watson853

I guess that depends on if the infinity hybrid system mates up easily to Mercedes engine that's the only reason I'm still skeptical on that idea.

Firebase99

Mercedes 6 cylinder is going in as the powerplant with direct injection, a new 7 speed rev match manual, 8 or 9 speed auto and the hybrid system on the Q series. Wheelbase of 103 inches and 3400 pounds base, 430 combined HP, 350TQ, 1/4 mile 12.5 and runs the Top Gear track in 1:24.6. Any questions?

watson853

The Mercedes engine I believe is already a done deal man no more VQ.

http://www.carbuzz.com/news/2014/8/1...Targa-7721917/

Firebase99

yea, right, thats what i said:

"Mercedes 6 cylinder is going in as the powerplant with direct injection, a new 7 speed rev match manual, 8 or 9 speed auto and the hybrid system on the Q series. Wheelbase of 103 inches and 3400 pounds base, 430 combined HP, 350TQ, 1/4 mile 12.5 and runs the Top Gear track in 1:24.6. Any questions?
Last edited by Firebase99; Today at 02:28 PM. Reason: edit for lulz"

;-)

GraphiteZ

If Nissan is not investing in the engine, I doubt they will spend money on a new 7-speed manual. As far as I know, Mercedes doesn't offer any manual. Anyone know whether the current manual transmission is strong enough to be used in a turbo setup? Is there a chance our Z will become the last generation with manual transmission option?

UNKNOWN_370

I assumed in my "Z35 motor theory thread", we'd be getting the v6 that's in the Mercedes c-class. It has twin-turbo and twin intakes. Has a lot of Nissans inherent technology. In the c class it's good for about 330hp. Im guessing it's a detuned v6 so it doesn't cut into AMG bi-turbo v8's.
330hp detuned could push 380-450hp tuned by Nissan. If the next Z is 3100-3200lbs with this kind of power? It will be insane.
What I also like about the Benz engine is that it produces significantly more torque than the VQ.

Out with the old. in with the new, im excited. My gut feeling is Nissan will reclaim it's thrown.

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watson853

Yea I'm blind sry

Magic Bus

400 hp, 325 lb tq, 3075 lbs from a Japanese factory with equivelant ride and handling to a 911 or Cayman for $60,000. I'd be the exception and buy it. (911s numbers)

However I believe Firebase is correct, this ain't gonna happen. Carlos Ghosn is a shrewd business man that knows, it's the bottom line which keeps his job/bonuses and Nissan in business. He's all about controlling expenses, maximizing sales and profitability. Expanding and re-tooling your manufacturing plant to get into the very niche $60k+ sports car market is loaded with risk and very little potential return. They already have a halo car (GTR) that spanks the competition in the price/performance category, yet are now giving a $10k additional discount to clear out the 2014's.

I don't know what's going to happen with the Z, but from a business perspective. I do believe if a new Z comes along, it will be sharing it's engine or engines/chassis with other Nissan/Infiniti vehicles manufactured at the same plant.

Limeybastard

Am I the only one thinking Nissan doesnt care about teh Z anymore? Like someone mentioned earlier that fella Carlos Ghosm or whatever hes called is all about making money. Budget cars are Nissans bread and butter revenue maker right? In this day and age pushing the same model/ platform for 5 years when the competition is now overtaking you in technology and power something is a miss? I remember back in the 80s and 90s the germans would not change their car shape for almost sometimes 7+ years. In this day and age the 370z platform has been around forever. I guess some would see that as it being a success. Some others would see it as no forward thinking vision nor keeping up with the competition.

Firebase99

I dunno, id like to think not. I know, in reality, its all about the cheddar. However, Nissan, is a big enough company to produce the Z. Its iconic, it NEEDS a Z in the lineup, maybe the Z itself doesnt generate much revenue but buyers for other models gravitate to Nissan BECAUSE it simply exists. It may take a hiatus, like the 300 to 350, but as long as Nissan is around I think the Z will be around.

UNKNOWN_370

I think some of you are overthinking thisCarlos Ghosn Nissan restructurization. Nissan started with the bread and butter cars on design overhauls. then the restructure the SUV/crossover market. while doing this, the Z got small updates and price restructuring.


It feels to me its taking long for the Z to come out because of the way they are systematically restructuring. Also, they don't want to make the same marketing and pricing mistakes that they made with the Z 34. they want to build Nismo name into something more meaningful than just badgesand appearance mods with minor tunes. restructuring a sport car segment is much more difficult then the bread and butter cars.

Have patience and give nissan a chance to show and prove. I think we will be happier with the Z35 than with the current 34.

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Limeybastard

I am not sure about the bold comments above. After all didnt we get posts of nearly all Nissan models being tarted up with Nismo aerostyling and interior lately? To me this indicates them merely milking their current vehicles and not really caring about the true meaning or performance orientations of a Nismo and what it should at least stands for. In essence I think Nissan made their statement showing that Nismo is nothing more than a badge and extra income potential for them.

UNKNOWN_370

I couldn't agree because it's way too soon to make that analysis in my opinion. There's only 2 new brand Nismo's. The Juke Nismo and Nismo RS which is considered the best handling CUV in it's class and the 2015 Z34 Nismo. The major upgrade aside from seats and bodystyle is a suspension tweak for improved track performance. And we have no data to ascertain whether the tune will improve performance. A good suspension tweak can shave seconds of a track time without a power bump. Remember, the lifespan of the Z34 is short now. If the 34 moves around the track quicker on a suspension tune only? It will be a sign for things to come in the 35.

The Nismo is also getting an automatic with improved gear ratios. This is another method to improve acceleration performance without boosting power.

I think the Juke Nismo proved itself for what it is... A compact FWD/AWD CUV for $27k'ish nicely equipped. I'll reserve my opinions on the current 34 Nismo till it's reviewed but... My prediction is this Nismo will be a moderate but significant step on a long road of improvements over the next 3 or 4 years.

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