More info on the next 370Z

Eclipz · 08-13-2014, 10:21 AM

And the benefit of a mercedes engine in the Z is that you can now have german tuners go crazy on your car

watson853 · 08-13-2014, 10:22 AM

Yea very true although I still wish it was a VQ.

Dirk McGurck · 08-13-2014, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853

I agree. I also think that the s2000 being mid engined rwd is pretty amazing.

The original S2000 is front-mid engine and RWD.

Dirk McGurck · 08-13-2014, 10:24 AM

If the only options are hybrid and CVT from all of these cars, I'm keeping my Z and making it twin turbo.

Dirk McGurck · 08-13-2014, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Me? I havent looked up anything about a future S2000, just going off what others stated. That link shows a paltry vehicle for competition for a Z35 platform.

I meant the general 'you'. I looked it up hoping that the news had changed from a sub-200hp econobox. It hasn't.

watson853 · 08-13-2014, 10:26 AM

I no what the original was the new one will be mid engined rwd if u read the articles were talking about.

wanker · 08-13-2014, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

If Nissan is going to play in the $60K arena, which I dont think there is snowballs chance in hell of, it just set its target for a 911 S. Insanity. They did that with the 300 back in the 90's. Had Porsche on the ropes with their 911, but ultimitely, it failed, so few people were willing to pay that money for a Nissan on that level. Same goes for the Z35. It has to play with the BIG BOY, the 5.0 or make a REAL serious run at Cayman S territory with 95% of its performance for less than half its price.

Firebase is dead on. The Z is all about affordability and the 300zx was priced out of the No. Am. market when the Yen was stronger than the dollar. Nissan learned its lesson and it's one of the reasons the Z's improvements between subsequent production models have been modest -- cost. If the new stock Z is over $40K, it will fail.

It's also the same story as the Supra. Toyota tried to reinvent it as a higher end sports car and it failed miserably. People just weren't going to pay top dollar for a Toyota, despite its performance. If the new Supra is over $60K as rumored, it will go no where.

watson853 · 08-13-2014, 10:43 AM

I also agree that a Z that starts at 60,000 is crazy that's never what I meant. There seems to be a lot of drivetrain choices coming our way. I guess I should have just said that I believe there is gonna be a bigger price and performance gap between the standard Z and the nismo this time around. But a 50-60k nismo wouldn't be completely crazy

Firebase99 · 08-13-2014, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by watson853

I also agree that a Z that starts at 60,000 is crazy that's never what I meant. There seems to be a lot of drivetrain choices coming our way. I guess I should have just said that I believe there is gonna be a bigger price and performance gap between the standard Z and the nismo this time around. But a 50-60k nismo wouldn't be completely crazy

Theres a chance youre right, I hope youre not, but when a $60K Nismo is out thats when youll find me in the next M car.

njobe89 · 08-13-2014, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Theres a chance youre right, I hope youre not, but when a $60K Nismo is out thats when youll find me in the next M car.

Nargrakhan · 08-13-2014, 11:48 AM

Heh... off topic but... njobe89, I know what your signature is about, but there are programming langauges that would dicate the wrong answer must be correct, or else it would cause serious problems.

murphman · 08-13-2014, 12:41 PM

I got rid of my 370 not only because I needed a truck but because I wanted to plan for the next gen Z. If the next gen Z comes out at 60k, Nissan will lose 70% or more of the already tiny consumer pool interested in a Z car.

Why on earth someone would pay 60k for a low to mid 400 hp Z car when you can get a current gen vette for less, a CTS V used with low miles for 40-45k, used porches in the 50-60k range, 09-10 GTR's and the list goes on and on.
The current gen Z is a very affordable car to maintain and repair for a sports car. You can forget about all of that with a MB power plant.

watson853 · 08-13-2014, 01:04 PM

Don't forget the next gen gtr rumors are pretty crazy and if prove to be true give the Z even more room to grow up a little bit..

Firebase99 · 08-13-2014, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by murphman

I got rid of my 370 not only because I needed a truck but because I wanted to plan for the next gen Z. If the next gen Z comes out at 60k, Nissan will lose 70% or more of the already tiny consumer pool interested in a Z car.

Why on earth someone would pay 60k for a low to mid 400 hp Z car when you can get a current gen vette for less, a CTS V used with low miles for 40-45k, used porches in the 50-60k range, 09-10 GTR's and the list goes on and on.
The current gen Z is a very affordable car to maintain and repair for a sports car. You can forget about all of that with a MB power plant.

Exactly......hence:

They pretty much strip the Q50 and stuff it in a two seater. Hybrid and V6. Theres the Z35. Probably look a bit similar too, back and haunches, just smaller.

watson853 · 08-13-2014, 01:08 PM

I guess that depends on if the infinity hybrid system mates up easily to Mercedes engine that's the only reason I'm still skeptical on that idea.

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Dirk McGurck Track Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Delaware Posts: 715 Drives: 09 MB 370Z Touring Rep Power: 20	If the only options are hybrid and CVT from all of these cars, I'm keeping my Z and making it twin turbo. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring with Sport

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watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 37 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 11	More info on the next 370Z I also agree that a Z that starts at 60,000 is crazy that's never what I meant. There seems to be a lot of drivetrain choices coming our way. I guess I should have just said that I believe there is gonna be a bigger price and performance gap between the standard Z and the nismo this time around. But a 50-60k nismo wouldn't be completely crazy

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Nargrakhan Base Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Nowhere Posts: 176 Drives: Nothing Rep Power: 11	Heh... off topic but... njobe89, I know what your signature is about, but there are programming langauges that would dicate the wrong answer must be correct, or else it would cause serious problems. KaienZ34 likes this.

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murphman Track Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: houston Posts: 611 Drives: 370z Tour Black 7AT Rep Power: 16	I got rid of my 370 not only because I needed a truck but because I wanted to plan for the next gen Z. If the next gen Z comes out at 60k, Nissan will lose 70% or more of the already tiny consumer pool interested in a Z car. Why on earth someone would pay 60k for a low to mid 400 hp Z car when you can get a current gen vette for less, a CTS V used with low miles for 40-45k, used porches in the 50-60k range, 09-10 GTR's and the list goes on and on. The current gen Z is a very affordable car to maintain and repair for a sports car. You can forget about all of that with a MB power plant. ubs234 and Drakonis GTR like this. __________________ Mod List: FI 18" CBE// Eibach Springs// Rear Camber kit// Ingen CAI//

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08-13-2014, 10:21 AM	#46 (permalink)
Eclipz Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Tampa Posts: 360 Drives: 06 Eclipse GS Rep Power: 11	And the benefit of a mercedes engine in the Z is that you can now have german tuners go crazy on your car

08-13-2014, 10:22 AM	#47 (permalink)
watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 37 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 11	Yea very true although I still wish it was a VQ.

08-13-2014, 10:26 AM	#51 (permalink)
watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 37 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 11	I no what the original was the new one will be mid engined rwd if u read the articles were talking about.

08-13-2014, 01:04 PM	#58 (permalink)
watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 37 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 11	Don't forget the next gen gtr rumors are pretty crazy and if prove to be true give the Z even more room to grow up a little bit..

08-13-2014, 01:08 PM	#60 (permalink)
watson853 Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Texas Age: 37 Posts: 202 Drives: 2014 Blue T/S 7AT Rep Power: 11	I guess that depends on if the infinity hybrid system mates up easily to Mercedes engine that's the only reason I'm still skeptical on that idea.