yea if this is any bit true a C7 may be my next car.

Hey if that's true maybe our cars will keep a better value haha

i doubt it.

mine already got hit bad with the awful 2013 bumper change which cost me 4k on my value.

thanks nissan.

bastards... but luckily for me mines a 2013 :D

in the end if i can get somewhat around 20-23k for it i'll be satisfied

same thing. yours just started 4k less than what it would have been.

soooo you're in the same boat aside from you may have paid a little less.

i didn't sign up for this.. ehh it is what it is. if they're going to make our cars worth even less they better come up with something spectacular

as of now it aint looking good from that last report from last night.

lets just hope january and the tokyo auto show holds better luck for us.

i'm currently on the chevy website looking at the 2015 Z06 with a hard on.

yea it's a beast but i also don't have 80k for the base to spend either.

well, this is good news in that it will save me a lot of money by not wanting to upgrade for the new one, bad news for Z enthusiasts though...

still too early to tell... these are nothing but guesstimates :P

4.0L 8000RPM V8. I've been waiting for someone to make one besides BMW and Audi.

You can't tell me that wouldn't sound awesome and be fun, especially in a light car.

in all honesty i hope they keep the Z in its current form as a NA beast and leave the snails for the GTR

Well if the new GTR does have a hybrid system and push 700HP, there will be a huge gap between the Z and GTR. they can put something like a v8 in the Z and not worry about encroaching on GTR sales. But i feel that Nissan wants the Z to be more approachable to a wider audience so they wont do something cool or out of the ordinary.

Why the alarm? A 4-cyl turbo Z = 240SX, Silvia, browntop SR20DET ;) It would be "cheapy-Z." When the Z32 debuted in N America, it was Nissan's halo car. All the JDM fanboys clamored for the Skyline GT-R because it was only available in Japan, Australia, England, and some other countries...They got their wish via the R35. R35 blows away prior gen "Skylines" in performance.

I expect the next Z to be 'watered down.' Nissan is gunning for sales i.e. numbers, not exclusivity. They already stated that they're not that happy with Z34 sales numbers overall. They want to whore out cars, not make them "low production, high priced" ones.

Browntop?

I think the R36 will be hybrid. Nissan, or Japanese manufacturers in general, try to emulate high end European e.g. Porsche 918 (hybrid), the newer Lambos, Ferraris, etc. They're all about touching on the latest and greatest technology; they're forward-thinking i.e. progressive.

Domestic car makers, seem to me, want to perpetuate "nostalgia or tradition" by offering V8s with direct injection and "cylinder shutoff." I guess they find going hybrid "too sissy and green." The V8 rumble is too macho to give up. But with time, as fossil fuels become more scarce and thereby expensive, they too will lean on this technology.

imagine the rage of all the mustang fans when Ford announces a hybrid system for the mustang

Sounds like they have no idea if they will even make a new z car. If they make anything it will be 2019 or 2020. By that time hopefully you guys can afford a better car. Ill keep saving for corvette , m3 or porshe

you mocking our cars newb? ...:icon08: you cant even buy a 370z... :ugh:

Got the gorgeous 2013 bumper on mine :tiphat:

It's the price lowering on the 14's that maybe cost me $4k but this really doesn't bother me as I had no control over this. Also for $33k, a brand new 13 Sport Z picked up in Aug 2012 has been worth every penny. :driving:

Some of us can afford m3s and vettes. We just choose not to because there are more important things to spend our money on than cars. Nothign wrong with buying an expensive car, but just because some people don;t have them doesn't mean they can't afford them.

I hope it will be powered by a v6 variant of the motor in this car:

2015 Mercedes-AMG C63 And C63 S: Full Details, Live Photos & Video

When I say the new Z should get a V8, I'm not talking about the VK series, or swapping a Chevy V8 in either, I'm saying create a new one. Give the new Gtr a V8TT and it's exactly like now, Gtr has a V6TT and the Z a NA V6, except now uped' to V8's'....I just think that would be the key move imho for the next generations...

~Reagan

Cough** Toyota Ft1 aka Supra... **cough

Ive been a Nissan lover for many years and hopefully they dont have a 7 year lull in between but it does appear other car makers are stepping their game up heavily.

I will always be a Z lover though...

Don't forget that Honda still has the new S2000 that is rumored to be mid engined. So hopefully between Toyota, Nissan, and Honda we get something decent by 2017.


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Nissan should just put the Titan V8 or better in the GTR and TT it. Put a 4.0 VQ engine, (my 08 Pathfinder has 4.0 VQ). in the 2016 400Z as an option and we'll be happy. Right, fellow Z owners?

There is no way they are putting a v8 into the next z. All talk has been about dropping weight and efficiency. Only the American makers are still putting big V8s into their sporty cars. At best, it'll have a turbo 6 or turbo 6 w/hybrid. The cheapest and lamest route (unless they cut massive weight also) is the vq carried over but with DI. The possibly most likely option is a turbo 4.

^If I kept my 370, I would've looked into doing a V8 swap like the drift 370. The VK56 or whatever is capable of 450+ hp if built right, without FI. But after I sold my 370, I started looking at FD3S with Hinson LS swaps. But I think too many of them out there are d1cked up weekend projects akin to how people do Honda swaps and leave them all mickey-moused. And I looked at Z32 TTs but I don't want the hassle of a 20+ y.o. FI'd car acting up on me.

M4 for me. I6 turbo, 12 sec all day long.

No hard feelings we have all been there. Although a V8 Z would be pretty awesome its obviously never going to happen. It would be epic if Nissan where to revive there I6 (RB) and put it in the Z.....

I would rather have a high revving 4 cylinder turbo. Have you ever driven a 400+hp Mitsu evo well if you havent then its hard to explain that its much more powerful then you would think for hp and torque? Ive driven a 400 hp mustang v8 and personally its not my thing...Felt like a lowered truck

The best option keeping a good power to weoght ratio is a 6 cyl turbo or 4 cylinder turbo. A v8 doesnt belong in the next Z. They are focusing on lightweight performance and a v8 unless used magnesium and aluminum and spending an arm and a leg to keep a big block lightweight it shouldn't and wont happen for a very good reason.

Remember if the Z is created it will be more like a scion frs size. If a front engine car that size had a v8 the front to back weight ratio would be horrible for cornering. Like 65 front 35 rear

Oh, I'm talking an NA 4.0L V8. 8000RPM. Basically the S2000 motor on crack.

Perfect world would be a little lighter, but also moving the motor back a foot and the wheels forward a couple inches. Get the weight distribution closer to 50/50.

TT V6 that still revs high, or a slightly larger V6 that revs higher than the current motor. 400hp and the Touring model around 3000lbs.

If I don't like the next version of the Z, I can always take that money and put it towards a solid TT build for my car.

A Japanese V8 in a sports car? Lol sorry guys, not happening. You have a better chance at winning the lottery. Leave the big V8's for the American cars. I honestly see Nissan keeping it NA, smaller V6, but major overhaul on the chassis. 2800-3000lbs with 300ish hp. I just can't see them doing a V6 TT when you already have that in the GTR.

4.0L V8 is a tiny motor.

Ummmm what? In a japanese car thats massive. I mean GoDZilla uses a v6....

If you want a V8 go buy a Mustang. A v6tt or inline 6 tt would be far more fun and have much more tuning potential done right.

I assume you would take a 4000 pound car with a 600hp v8 over a 2700 pound car with a 420hp 4 cylinder?

The difference with those options is one corners and can go fast straight lines and one will not corner at all.

Lexus ISF 5.0 (no not Mustang ;)
Lexus RCF?

...Rollin' in my 5.0....ice ice baby....ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding (Under Pressure Queen via Vanilla Ice :happydance:

Are those cars even considered sports cars? I know there are Japanese V8's, but when is the last time you seen one in a 2 seater sports car? If you guys want big displacement, go buy an American car. I think a smaller boosted 6 or even possibly a 4 would be great for the Z platform. I'm not so much concerned about the engine as much as I am the chassis. If there isn't a huge overhaul with the chassis... like 2800-3000lbs curb weight, then I am going with a Vette or used Viper.

^I think they are.

Have fun with a used Viper. I think that's a money pit. I doubt they're reliable. I drove a 2002 Viper. Very fast but scary car. I thought the interior was waaaaay too small. Your left (clutch) leg is literally pushed towards the right. It's a rolling coffin. I guess I'm claustrophobic. But I don't know about the new ones though.

Nope. Apparently its a "Performance Sedan"
2014 Lexus IS F - Performance Sedan | Lexus.com

With the possible exception of 4-door rally cars, anything boxy with four doors is definitely not a traditional "sportscar".

The ISF is awesome... for a family car :ughdance:

2 doors, roadsters and coupes only, please :tup: