Nissan VP of product planning drops hints of possible next Z and iDX?

kenchan · 04-29-2014, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

I can see nissan making the Z share the same platform with the Q50 before sharing it with the iDX just because the last two generations of Zs shared the same platform with the G35 and G37.

is the G37C the same platform as the Z34? i dont think so?

i know the Z33 shared the same chassis as the G35C.

Z_ealot · 04-29-2014, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cell

I can see nissan making the Z share the same platform with the Q50 before sharing it with the iDX just because the last two generations of Zs shared the same platform with the G35 and G37.

i would have said the same thing too, but i have seen more than one article pop up stating that nissan themselves have set a target weight of no more than 2800lbs for the next Z and with the Q50's chassis, i just dont see that happening

AK370Z · 04-30-2014, 07:56 AM

I know Nissan is extremely strict what they say about their upcoming cars like Z, but I have a feeling TT car with lightweight chassis will be our future. A car that will yield slightly faster than current Z 0-60, braking, handling etc.

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According to Nissan design boss Shiro Nakamura, the next Z-car "could be smaller" than the current car. In addition, product chief Andy Palmer added that the car will be powered by a downsized four-cylinder turbocharged engine. Compared to the 350Z and 370Z, the car will have a slightly different character. Fortunately, Palmer reiterated the car is very much happening and that there’ll be "a normal version, and a Nismo." The car's arrival date is still unknown, as its final design has yet to be signed off.

We all know how Nissan cut $3000 from Z msrp last year to compete with BRZ/FRS. If that's not a sign, I dunno what is. I have a feeling it will be a 3000 lbs-ish (almost 350 lb savings) 300 HP TT engine. Maybe a new more aluminum based (full aluminum?) chassis and more Al on body panel to save weight(current Z has hood and side doors al) . Maybe we will see (body color painted) cf hood/rear hatch? However, I will make a comment. Z is an iconic mass produced Japanese muscle car. Nissan knows that very well. Z is the Ford Mustang of Japan. Keep that in mind. Also keep that in mind new will MUST be better than the current Z. With that in mind, I don't think I'm nervous at all. I don't think it'll be disappointing. I have faith in Carl Phillips

. I am actually getting a little excited about it

Zteve · 04-30-2014, 08:04 AM

so basically this is nothing more than another thread of speculation and rumor about the new z.......

daisuke149 · 04-30-2014, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by wanker

My guess is that the next Z will be more of the same.

Slightly larger engine and a lighter car due to the use of more aluminum. I still don't see Nissan introducing a turbo due to costs and warranty issues, but maybe someday they'll offer it with the Nismo Z. Nissan is still very conscience of keeping the Z affordable especially after getting priced out of the market with the 300ZX. Thus, I don't think we'll see a turbo for a while.

keep in mind Nissan has Turbo cars out there for a long time. Just because we dont get them in the US doesn't mean they dont have them. They have tons of Turbo cars in Japan.

And the Juke / GTR here

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Originally Posted by SOUTHZZ

I believe Nissan will be going back to the roots of the Z with the next platform.
That is,if they are smart.The large displacement guys,weight?Who cares,add more
HP...will be disappointed.
Lets get back to a sports car.Light,great power to weight ratio.
The kicker will be an acceptable price.A new 370 loaded can cost 50k.
Rediculous.
Lightness with safety costs money.The use of carbon fiber and other composite
materials plus aluminum is needed.For sure,a turbo 4 is the answer.
Many years ago,Colin Chapman started Lotus with the light car with
the right HP.I've got a 71'Lotus Europa with a tweaked twin cam 4 that puts out
about 180hp.The total car weight is around 1,400 lbs.It would never pass today's safety
standards.Its sure not the car to let a teenager drive with the massive understeer.
But it goes...
Possibly along with a lighter package,Nissan may offer a innovation that nobody else
has.
I'd be interested.

in regards to the cost, your right, a touring w/ nav, automatic, sport w extras and convertible can be close to 50k. but a base 370z is 30k.

I would prefer Nissan cut down on the options, its a damn sports car why should the sports package be extra. everycar should have good brakes, tires, etc. Luxury items should be the only option for those who want a racer vs GT

Chuck33079 · 04-30-2014, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Zteve

so basically this is nothing more than another thread of speculation and rumor about the new z.......

It's been a few weeks. We're overdue for another.

Z_ealot · 04-30-2014, 09:06 AM

whoa, didnt expect this thread to get moved from the "other cars" section lol. in any case my original post was only meant to update people on some more hints that got dropped by one of the higher ups at Nissan, not meant to start speculation, but i can see how it can lend itself to that. i myself am with AK on this topic, im actually excited to see what they do with the next Z, but as for any details...well i'll just sit back and be patient for Nissan to reveal those.

GraphiteZ · 04-30-2014, 09:36 AM

I'm afraid Nissan will simply kill the Z which they did before

and sell smaller turbo 4 sport car under the Silvia (200SX or 240SX) name plate. Btw, how are FR-S (GT86) and BRZ doing in Europe?

Z_ealot · 04-30-2014, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GraphiteZ

I'm afraid Nissan will simply kill the Z which they did before

and sell smaller turbo 4 sport car under the Silvia (200SX or 240SX) name plate. Btw, how are FR-S (GT86) and BRZ doing in Europe?

I don't know why people keep saying this when nissan has been quoted as saying over and over again that they will not get rid of the z as it is an iconic car in their line up that attract people to the brand

GraphiteZ · 04-30-2014, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Z_ealot

I don't know why people keep saying this when nissan has been quoted as saying over and over again that they will not get rid of the z as it is an iconic car in their line up that attract people to the brand

Let me remind you that Nissan had done multiple upgrades for the 350Z during its life cycle and that is what you would expect a car company to do with the iconic car. The truth is Nissan is giving the GTR upgrades almost every year and even the Juke is getting a Nismo RS version with higher engine output while our Zs have no upgrades at all in 5 years. I count what they do but not what they say.

Chuck33079 · 04-30-2014, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GraphiteZ

Let me remind you that Nissan had done multiple upgrades for the 350Z during its life cycle and that is what you would expect a car company to do with the iconic car. The truth is Nissan is giving the GTR upgrades almost every year and even the Juke is getting a Nismo RS version with higher engine output while our Zs have no upgrades at all in 5 years. I count what they do but not what they say.

Yeah, they for sure didn't change the front, add an oil cooler, change the cooling system, suspension..... Oh wait, they did. You're saying "they didn't add power". That's not the same thing.

Z_ealot · 04-30-2014, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Yeah, they for sure didn't change the front, add an oil cooler, change the cooling system, suspension..... Oh wait, they did. You're saying "they didn't add power". That's not the same thing.

and the last i counted, the 350Z had only about 2 updates in its entire run, those being the uprev engine in the 35th anniversary edition if you want to count that as an upgrade and then there was the full refresh which was the VQ35HR engine with a couple of changes in body styling to go with the engine upgrade

cigarclifford · 04-30-2014, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SOUTHZZ

I believe Nissan will be going back to the roots of the Z with the next platform.
That is,if they are smart.The large displacement guys,weight?Who cares,add more
HP...will be disappointed.
Lets get back to a sports car.Light,great power to weight ratio.
The kicker will be an acceptable price.A new 370 loaded can cost 50k.
Rediculous.
Lightness with safety costs money.The use of carbon fiber and other composite
materials plus aluminum is needed.For sure,a turbo 4 is the answer.
Many years ago,Colin Chapman started Lotus with the light car with
the right HP.I've got a 71'Lotus Europa with a tweaked twin cam 4 that puts out
about 180hp.The total car weight is around 1,400 lbs.It would never pass today's safety
standards.Its sure not the car to let a teenager drive with the massive understeer.
But it goes...
Possibly along with a lighter package,Nissan may offer a innovation that nobody else
has.
I'd be interested.

Agree...Look what both Ferrari and Porsche have done. Lighter materials
and unique composites........In time Nissan will join in....

DLSTR · 04-30-2014, 10:55 AM

There is certainly nothing 'official' but just looking around the car world shows 'change' is coming. The next Z will reflect this and as AK has stated its going to be exciting.

Technology yields better power, in a smaller package, improved chassis dynamics and handling. I feel pretty good about Nissan's ability to harness that change and make a car worth considering!

DLSTR · 04-30-2014, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cigarclifford

Agree...Look what both Ferrari and Porsche have done. Lighter materials
and unique composites........In time Nissan will join in....

+1. Porsche is now going to produce 4cyl engines in the Boxster and Cayman! With technology 4cyl power gains major respect.

04-30-2014, 08:04 AM	#19 (permalink)
Zteve Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Clarksville TN Posts: 348 Drives: 2013 370Z MB w/Sport Rep Power: 3368	so basically this is nothing more than another thread of speculation and rumor about the new z....... UNKNOWN_370, Chuck33079, jpkirk and 1 others like this. __________________ 2013 Midnight Blue 370Z Base w/Sport Package

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Z_ealot A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 2,045 Drives: 09 370Z Touring/Sprt Rep Power: 10090	whoa, didnt expect this thread to get moved from the "other cars" section lol. in any case my original post was only meant to update people on some more hints that got dropped by one of the higher ups at Nissan, not meant to start speculation, but i can see how it can lend itself to that. i myself am with AK on this topic, im actually excited to see what they do with the next Z, but as for any details...well i'll just sit back and be patient for Nissan to reveal those. Chuck33079 and SterlingDrive like this.

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