370 vs honda?!?!?!?

Originally Posted by edk370

1st of all, lemme clear things up since some of you are ignorant about me and my stance on Hondas; many of you are flat out IGNORANT about Hondas. I don't wanna call you "stupid" for the sake of civil debate. Anyways, I got into the Honda/JDM scene when it was novel, esoteric....before it got "ubiquitous" or riced-out.

2nd, I caught the Honda wave right before its culmination (people building 600+ hp *on dyno* FWD Hondas pulling 9's with 140+ trap speeds) and eventual fall. This was around the late 90s. Sure, these were trailer queens that had slicks up front, stripped down its bare metal chassis, broke down after a pass, etc....But it did inspire lots of people to try to build streetable Hondas that were quick.

3rd, to say that Hondas can't have a "sleeper" status is wrong. To only claim that domestic muscle cars were the only ones designated for this, is very narrow minded. I remember, prior to the Honda/JDM craze, people used to build old school VW Beetles with their "1835 cc" motors keeping up with, if not beating, domestic V8s....Is VW not an import sleeper?...absolutely. As a matter of fact, they're the original "import craze" prior to the Honda/JDM scene. They're "cheap Porsches"...RWD, rear engine, lightweight...can be made to be really fast (if you know what you're doing).

4th, it's obvious pretty much all of you look down on the Honda thing, because it's gaudy, passé and riced out now for the most part. You just haven't come across the fast Hondas that are tastefully modded. Look at "Honda Tuning" magazine if you wanna see examples.

Lastly, I owned a 370Z. I would rather drive that than a Honda (even if it is faster in the straights)....because I'm not 20 something y.o. anymore. It's a maturity thing. My point is, Hondas (all motor, streetable) got lots of potential. You can spin it whatever way you want...

Originally Posted by edk370

1st of all, lemme clear things up since some of you are ignorant about me and my stance on Hondas; many of you are flat out IGNORANT about Hondas. I don't wanna call you "stupid" for the sake of civil debate. Anyways, I got into the Honda/JDM scene when it was novel, esoteric....before it got "ubiquitous" or riced-out.

2nd, I caught the Honda wave right before its culmination (people building 600+ hp *on dyno* FWD Hondas pulling 9's with 140+ trap speeds) and eventual fall. This was around the late 90s. Sure, these were trailer queens that had slicks up front, stripped down its bare metal chassis, broke down after a pass, etc....But it did inspire lots of people to try to build streetable Hondas that were quick.

3rd, to say that Hondas can't have a "sleeper" status is wrong. To only claim that domestic muscle cars were the only ones designated for this, is very narrow minded. I remember, prior to the Honda/JDM craze, people used to build old school VW Beetles with their "1835 cc" motors keeping up with, if not beating, domestic V8s....Is VW not an import sleeper?...absolutely. As a matter of fact, they're the original "import craze" prior to the Honda/JDM scene. They're "cheap Porsches"...RWD, rear engine, lightweight...can be made to be really fast (if you know what you're doing).

4th, it's obvious pretty much all of you look down on the Honda thing, because it's gaudy, passé and riced out now for the most part. You just haven't come across the fast Hondas that are tastefully modded. Look at "Honda Tuning" magazine if you wanna see examples.

Lastly, I owned a 370Z. I would rather drive that than a Honda (even if it is faster in the straights)....because I'm not 20 something y.o. anymore. It's a maturity thing. My point is, Hondas (all motor, streetable) got lots of potential. You can spin it whatever way you want...But yeah, lots of immature kids drive them now, and I can understand the disdain for Honda drivers; I'm not one of these douchebags.

Originally Posted by edk370

1st of all, lemme clear things up since some of you are ignorant about me and my stance on Hondas; many of you are flat out IGNORANT about Hondas. I don't wanna call you "stupid" for the sake of civil debate. Anyways, I got into the Honda/JDM scene when it was novel, esoteric....before it got "ubiquitous" or riced-out.

2nd, I caught the Honda wave right before its culmination (people building 600+ hp *on dyno* FWD Hondas pulling 9's with 140+ trap speeds) and eventual fall. This was around the late 90s. Sure, these were trailer queens that had slicks up front, stripped down its bare metal chassis, broke down after a pass, etc....But it did inspire lots of people to try to build streetable Hondas that were quick.

3rd, to say that Hondas can't have a "sleeper" status is wrong. To only claim that domestic muscle cars were the only ones designated for this, is very narrow minded. I remember, prior to the Honda/JDM craze, people used to build old school VW Beetles with their "1835 cc" motors keeping up with, if not beating, domestic V8s....Is VW not an import sleeper?...absolutely. As a matter of fact, they're the original "import craze" prior to the Honda/JDM scene. They're "cheap Porsches"...RWD, rear engine, lightweight...can be made to be really fast (if you know what you're doing).

4th, it's obvious pretty much all of you look down on the Honda thing, because it's gaudy, passé and riced out now for the most part. You just haven't come across the fast Hondas that are tastefully modded. Look at "Honda Tuning" magazine if you wanna see examples.

Lastly, I owned a 370Z. I would rather drive that than a Honda (even if it is faster in the straights)....because I'm not 20 something y.o. anymore. It's a maturity thing. My point is, Hondas (all motor, streetable) got lots of potential. You can spin it whatever way you want...But yeah, lots of immature kids drive them now, and I can understand the disdain for Honda drivers; I'm not one of these douchebags.

Originally Posted by Elan

You didn't address the fact that it's still a Honda and therefore sucks!

Originally Posted by kenchan

elan- not all hondas are bad ... well, okay maybe.

Originally Posted by Isamu

your trolling is bad youngone...

Originally Posted by Elan

Excuse me...suck for racing/modding!

Originally Posted by Elan

Excuse me...suck for racing/modding!

Originally Posted by Zerocool

Guys, don't forget to put on your hazzards once you assume you've won the race!

Originally Posted by kenchan

dont they do like a final ricer flyby?

Originally Posted by Zerocool

They usually do that when another guy is cruising....


"hey there goes a nissan 370z! Ima go do a flyby!"

Z-owner: "oh god, I hear a fart can... where is it?"

Originally Posted by forza370z

"Behind, they still behind you."

Originally Posted by jaedub

I honestly think Honda engineering and innovation out performs Nissan and just about any other automotive company. I'm not saying Honda makes faster cars or better looking cars than Nissan but their level of achievements and practicality is beyond measure. They make everything from cars to motorcycles to boats to jet planes to household items.

And to say that Honda sucks based on riced out civic on the road is just pure ignorant. They even make one of the best F-1 engines. They touched upon things that Nissan never even dreamed of.