trade 37k, 2010 base for 2013 Scion FR-s with 17k

Chuck33079 · 03-14-2014, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Well, you put it like that, i agree. LOL. I still wouldnt buy either let alone an 86 over a Z. Not to thumb my nose up, but the Civic crowd, FRS, Miata stuff, is at least a class level below a Z. Theres nothing WRONG with that, its necessary in fact, so cross shopping an 86 with a 370 is like cross shopping a 370 with a C7. Pointless if you dont/cant pony up.

Right, these two vehicles have little in common beyond drivetrain layout. The fact that we waste so much time here discussing them is hilarious. If I were in the market for a Civic SI, I'd probably buy a BRZ. If I were in the market for a proper sports car, it wouldn't even make the list of cars to test drive. That doesn't change the fact I'm glad it is made, and I'm glad it sells. It brought back a market segment that had all but disappeared.

A buddy of mine builds show cars for a living, and he has a BRZ he's probably dumped $25k into between the supercharger kit, wheels, tires, interior, etc. It looks fantastic for a show car. It also made 250whp.

I'll bet it's a hoot to drive, but the $/hp curve doesn't work buying one new. A $10k beater in a few years to thrash on track? Yes please.

Redglare · 03-14-2014, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Right, these two vehicles have little in common beyond drivetrain layout. The fact that we waste so much time here discussing them is hilarious. If I were in the market for a Civic SI, I'd probably buy a BRZ. If I were in the market for a proper sports car, it wouldn't even make the list of cars to test drive. That doesn't change the fact I'm glad it is made, and I'm glad it sells. It brought back a market segment that had all but disappeared.

A buddy of mine builds show cars for a living, and he has a BRZ he's probably dumped $25k into between the supercharger kit, wheels, tires, interior, etc. It looks fantastic for a show car. It also made 250whp.

I'll bet it's a hoot to drive, but the $/hp curve doesn't work buying one new. A $10k beater in a few years to thrash on track? Yes please.

I agree with it being a nice used beater or daily, but idk how well with that pan out now that it has DI and apparently a lot of issues w/ engines failing.

Chuck33079 · 03-14-2014, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Redglare

I agree with it being a nice used beater or daily, but idk how well with that pan out now that it has DI and apparently a lot of issues w/ engines failing.

Nothing I've read has mentioned anything about "a lot" of motors failing. There's been a few, and the DI FA20 was an all-new motor. There were a lot of VQ37s replaced under warranty in 2009 as well, and I wouldn't shy away from a used 370.

Firebase99 · 03-14-2014, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Right, these two vehicles have little in common beyond drivetrain layout. The fact that we waste so much time here discussing them is hilarious. That doesn't change the fact I'm glad it is made, and I'm glad it sells. It brought back a market segment that had all but disappeared.

A $10k beater in a few years to thrash on track? Yes please.

Again, agreed. We discuss because, well, we like cars, and its fun

Chuck33079 · 03-14-2014, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Again, agreed. We discuss because, well, we like cars, and its fun

Of course. It's the hate some show that baffles me. I understand why they compare their BRS/FRS to a Z, but I have no idea why we compare down.

Plus, if the BRZ/FRS caused Nissan to start working on the IDX, doesn't that mean moving the Z down-market to compete with the twins is a lot less likely? Shouldn't we be rooting for the twins then?

Redglare · 03-14-2014, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Of course. It's the hate some show that baffles me. I understand why they compare their BRS/FRS to a Z, but I have no idea why we compare down.

Plus, if the BRZ/FRS caused Nissan to start working on the IDX, doesn't that mean moving the Z down-market to compete with the twins is a lot less likely? Shouldn't we be rooting for the twins then?

Yea ur probably right again, vocal minority complaining again.

I've been on frs forums and apparently there are a lot of engine failures especially at the track attributed directly to the DI system.

My friends fr-s has this wierd cricket chirping noise from the DI system, really loud with the windows down at a stop light, sounds like a beat up 200k mile hooptie.

Firebase99 · 03-14-2014, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Redglare

I've been on frs forums and apparently there are a lot of engine failures

Fixed: No, the engine IS a failure

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