Now U Can Hate Me - 370z v 350z

NIZMOZ · 09-03-2009, 06:34 PM

Skipad G = Tires, MPH = suspension.

The NISMO 350Z had a higher mph than the NISMO 370z in all the tests. Which means it's the car that can go faster through the slalom without issues. It handles better.

But 350z vs 370z, that I can not answer.

Due to little weight savings, shorter wheel base is mainly why it handles a little better, the suspension is softer however.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jakoye

I simply don't understand how this can be if the 370z has a higher skidpad rating than the 350z??? Isn't that the ultimate test of handling ability? Yes, it's not occurring at 120 mph, but I don't see why things would be any different just cause you're going "a bit" faster.

I mean, a .97g figure on the skidpad at 69mph! That's quite impressive (from Edmunds):

"There's more than enough tire on the ground, as the 370 circles the skid pad at 0.97g in a steady drift that can be adjusted with the throttle. The shorter wheelbase promises better agility through the slalom, and the 69-mph run confirms it. Basically the 2009 Nissan 370Z fills out the performance envelope of last year's 2008 Nissan 350Z Nismo, but without the Nismo car's wound-up character."

The rest of the article is here: 2009 Nissan 370Z Full Test and Video on Inside Line

If I'm wrong on the value of the skidpad test, please correct me.

gnarf · 09-03-2009, 07:50 PM

how would a base+sport 370 do, compared to the Nismo 350z. We all know the Nismo 370z is not really the performance car everyone was expecting..added weight and too stiff suspension

Lug · 09-03-2009, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnarf

how would a base+sport 370 do, compared to the Nismo 350z. We all know the Nismo 370z is not really the performance car everyone was expecting..added weight and too stiff suspension

The NISMO 350Z skidpads at .91 to .96 and slaloms at 69 to 71 MPH (Edmunds and R&T). The 370Z skidpads at slightly higher (.97 to .99) and slaloms from 70 to almost 72. Esentially handling is virtually a tie. The NISMO 370Z fall way off to the point where I'm convinced there is sabatoge going on!

chubbs · 09-07-2009, 01:01 PM

Wow!!! OP here. Bit of a hornet's nest here. I'm still moving house, so I haven't been online for a few days and it's been very interesting to read the responses and reactions.

I am truly sorry if I upset anyone here with one particular part of my review. Really - I truly did not want to annoy you, I was just reporting what I found.

It is quite possible that the UK suspension set-up is different from the USA set-up. I seem to remember that the 350Z's were set differently, so my experience may not be the same as yours. However, I WAS comparing similar UK cars (350 & 370) and the difference was quite clear to me. Naming no names, but someone who knows A LOT about these cars (with respect, quite probably more than most people here) agrees with me, although I was unaware of this before I made my judgement.

Having been a moderator on a UK 350z site for several years I know how passionate we all are about our cars and the last thing I want to do is upset anyone, but please don't think that I'm naiive or rash or indeed wrong (!) - I'm none of those things. I'm just not prepared to say something's OK when I don't think it is.

I went into the test drive really wanting to love the 370z - and I DID love many many aspects of it, but (to sort of answer one of nogoodname's points) high speed driving is of interest to me and every time I reached a highish speed I had to back off, to the point where I only felt comfortable cruising at a speed about 20/30mph below where I'm normally comfortable. For some people this would not be an issue, for me it is. An easy fix would be for me to change the suspension - and if I get a 370z, which I may well do in a few months time, I will prioritise changing the suspension over replacing the badges (that's how important it is).

There are so many points I would like to answer, but the one that sticks in my mind is the question about my thoughts on the GTR - to answer your query, I absolutely LOVED it to bits. The handling is sublime, along with everything else about the car, except for one thing - service & maintenance costs - they are ridiculous and make it too expensive for me. The dealer recommends that buyers commit themselves to a service savings plan that is the equivalent of about $250 per month just to cover the cost of the six-monthly services for the first 3 years. A set of brake pads & dics costs the equivalent of more than $8,000!! I can't justify that kind of expense, but I really do love the car. It's an amazing piece of machinery.

Thank you to all those people who understand that I'm not trying to trash the 370z and who respected my right to review what I found. .....And to the people who were just plain rude and insulting - I love you

ps - I don't dislike Clarkson because he's 'edgy and provocative', I hate him because he's a to$$er - and having tried it I still don't like the synchro rev match, I prefer to drive without it - so shoot me.

Keatonus · 09-08-2009, 12:22 AM

what's a To$$er?

chubbs · 09-08-2009, 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keatonus

what's a To$$er?

It's english slang for someone who masturbates on a regular basis, whilst looking at pictures of themselves.

Keatonus · 09-09-2009, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chubbs

It's english slang for someone who masturbates on a regular basis, whilst looking at pictures of themselves.

Never heard that before, thanks I'm going to start using it!

370Zsteve · 10-06-2009, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Skipad G = Tires, MPH = suspension.

The NISMO 350Z had a higher mph than the NISMO 370z in all the tests.

Sorry, mate, I disagree on both points.

No offense, mate.

NIZMOZ · 10-06-2009, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

Sorry, mate, I disagree on both points.

No offense, mate.

Facts are facts sir. You can't deny that. All the tests for the NISMO Z 370z have been negative towards it's handling.

370Zsteve · 10-09-2009, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NIZMOZ

Facts are facts sir. You can't deny that. All the tests for the NISMO Z 370z have been negative towards it's handling.

I just went through two Google pages and could only find people pissing their pants on how good the 370Niz is vs the 350Niz. So "all the tests" is going to require one hell of a lot of searching for some support..........................

So please find a few links....and I'll provide ten for every one you find that support my statement!

NIZMOZ · 10-09-2009, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 370Zsteve

I just went through two Google pages and could only find people pissing their pants on how good the 370Niz is vs the 350Niz. So "all the tests" is going to require one hell of a lot of searching for some support..........................

So please find a few links....and I'll provide ten for every one you find that support my statement!

They are on this site. It has been posted many times. C&D, M&T, etc all said the handling is worse. The Slalom is less than the NIZMO 350Z, and less than the standard 370z. So do some research for a change. So stop being a noob and search.

09-07-2009, 01:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
chubbs A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Zeeland Posts: 1,046 Drives: 2016 370z Auto-Grey Rep Power: 7588	Wow!!! OP here. Bit of a hornet's nest here. I'm still moving house, so I haven't been online for a few days and it's been very interesting to read the responses and reactions. I am truly sorry if I upset anyone here with one particular part of my review. Really - I truly did not want to annoy you, I was just reporting what I found. It is quite possible that the UK suspension set-up is different from the USA set-up. I seem to remember that the 350Z's were set differently, so my experience may not be the same as yours. However, I WAS comparing similar UK cars (350 & 370) and the difference was quite clear to me. Naming no names, but someone who knows A LOT about these cars (with respect, quite probably more than most people here) agrees with me, although I was unaware of this before I made my judgement. Having been a moderator on a UK 350z site for several years I know how passionate we all are about our cars and the last thing I want to do is upset anyone, but please don't think that I'm naiive or rash or indeed wrong (!) - I'm none of those things. I'm just not prepared to say something's OK when I don't think it is. I went into the test drive really wanting to love the 370z - and I DID love many many aspects of it, but (to sort of answer one of nogoodname's points) high speed driving is of interest to me and every time I reached a highish speed I had to back off, to the point where I only felt comfortable cruising at a speed about 20/30mph below where I'm normally comfortable. For some people this would not be an issue, for me it is. An easy fix would be for me to change the suspension - and if I get a 370z, which I may well do in a few months time, I will prioritise changing the suspension over replacing the badges (that's how important it is). There are so many points I would like to answer, but the one that sticks in my mind is the question about my thoughts on the GTR - to answer your query, I absolutely LOVED it to bits. The handling is sublime, along with everything else about the car, except for one thing - service & maintenance costs - they are ridiculous and make it too expensive for me. The dealer recommends that buyers commit themselves to a service savings plan that is the equivalent of about $250 per month just to cover the cost of the six-monthly services for the first 3 years. A set of brake pads & dics costs the equivalent of more than $8,000!! I can't justify that kind of expense, but I really do love the car. It's an amazing piece of machinery. Thank you to all those people who understand that I'm not trying to trash the 370z and who respected my right to review what I found. .....And to the people who were just plain rude and insulting - I love you ps - I don't dislike Clarkson because he's 'edgy and provocative', I hate him because he's a to$$er - and having tried it I still don't like the synchro rev match, I prefer to drive without it - so shoot me. __________________ . '03 Grey >>> '06 Black >>>'10 Silver >>> '16 Grey ^

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