So saying the car could use some improvement to better compete with the other cars in its segment is bashing? That's not bashing, it's a statement of fact. Look at the sales numbers compared to other cars in its segment.

the other companies did not have an exchange rate disadvantage of 20% or more. are you not watching the news and realize that ALL of these things have direct connection to how much a company can invest and build a car?

i dont see how you take just one egg and make a huge ham and cheeze omelette. manufacturing does not work like that.


kitchen: got my delivery of one egg today... i know wtf... but i can make a great sunny side up today. :tup:

customer: wtf ? i said i want a huge ham & cheeze omelette! :mad:

kitchen: u want me to pull one out of my arse then? :ugh2:

sorry OP if you feel that way.

in response to your first post, I don't see you were bashing the Z.

in fact, I feel you are asking for too much from the Z in related to the amount of money you paid for the Z.


of course we all want more hp, more this and more that and a better car, but before you say that, have you ever think about how will it affect the cost?


thus it leads to is/are those demand/suggestions feasible to put on a 40k imports..??

if the Z does have what you demand, will that still cost 40k?

if it cost more than 40k, will you complain about the price? can you afford the price?


what can you get from a sports car that cost 40k?

that's the point.

Nissan isn't the only Japanese car company, and Japan isn't the only country with exchange rate fluctuations. And I don't know why you seem to be so set on defending the Z as perfect the way it is. It could use improvement. A loaded Z is a $40k car. In that space, there's better value to be had.

the exchange rate is only one of the facts that affect what does the product consist.


the most important is which market segment does the company target for that product.

For Z, Nissan is targeting the 35k-40k segment, what is the most they can put into the Z thus it has good power, equipments thus they can make a decent profit when they sell it at 35k and also the consumers are happy.


The Z, doesn't have the horsepower like a GTR, doesn't have the torque like a truck, doesn't have the luxury like a mercedes, doesn't have the style like a ferrari.


but it's a sports car with a very very good value.

OK, I give. I don't have the patience for the eternal kenchan/alcheng circle jerk today. The OP was bashing the Z, which has no equal for its price and if you can't afford it you're poor.

wasn't jerking around on my previous post, and I stated that I don't see the OP is bashing the Z. :icon17:


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yah, toyota...nevermind the supra, cant do it. :ugh:
mazda... you mean watz da? :ugh2:
toyotaburu came out with BRZ/FRS wow that was great, thanks. :ugh:
honda's answer was a CRZ that noone wants...lol :ugh:

nissan's answer while the others were tanking was (and still is) not a bad deal nor car at all, thanks to french guy. :D if you want to improve it you can. i personally dont see the need to do any serious mods on this car to enjoy it.

korea took advantage of japan's situation and so did domestics. so going back to my example... how do you expect to make a huge ham& cheeze omelette out of one egg? you can't. but hey, at least the sunny side up nissan made was affordable, healthy, and good. :yum:

:icon18: no one asked you to butt in, chuck. :tup:

Likewise. And you were the only one claiming he was bashing the Z. He's not the first to make the observations he did.

thought you were done with me already? :icon17:

have a good afternoon, chuck. :hello:

did we ruin the thread....? :ugh2:

no, i think we had a valuable discussion today, mr. alcheng. :tup:

too bad it's "FOR ENTERTAINMENT ONLY..." :wtf2:




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yes, I quote myself.. but I think it's useful in here. :tiphat: