Nismo Vs. Non-Nismo

Shunya · 08-31-2009, 06:26 PM

yeha i want that tach

JoeD · 08-31-2009, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Shunya

yeha i want that tach

Eh...even if it's available at a reasonable price, it's not even worth the hassle of installing. The risks is disassembling the interior/gauge-cluster and perhaps breaking a clip or introducing a new squeak or rattle far outweigh the novelty of having "NISMO" on your tach. Plus, the black dial in the non-NISMO just flows better as it matches the speedometer.

I actually love the gauge-cluster in the Z...I couldn't really see how it could be upgraded. Wasn't the case for the MKIV Supra, though, seeing as to how the TRD 10K tachometer was one of the coolest and sought-after mods for the car.

The only thing I'd change would be to have 0 on the tach and speedo positioned at 6 o'clock, but now I'm just being silly...

zZSportZz · 09-01-2009, 01:57 PM

I want the red engine cover

STI-GUY · 09-18-2009, 10:39 AM

ONe word- Warranty.
Not saying you can't get better gains from base plus mods, but unless your dealership is mod friendly, hope you know someone if your car goes boom.
I am not hating, if you are indeed ballin' on a budget and don't need a warranty then yes you can get better gains for less in the aftermarket.

For me not too many cars have me wanting to get rid of my STI, but the Z is def one of them and the NISMO Z is hot!

I have been there done that with the performance aftermarket world and I don't want to go down that road anymore.

I want a good bang for my buck sports car that's a good weekend warrior.

Make mine a WHITE NISMO PLEASE!

chief_Roka · 09-18-2009, 11:21 AM

For the money... u can do so much better in the aftermarket.
Base+sprt 33k. Nismo 39k. That's 6grand.

Eibach pro lines n sways. $800 installed. (Will probably ad .01g)
Intake+exh+headers+hfc. $2k. (You would have 26hp=9more thn nismo)
Oil+diff+p.s. + tran cooler. $1.5k (optimum perf)
Carb fiber hood+diffuser. $1.1k. (Reduce 40+lbs)
Ecu prog. $800. (8100rpm will give u better gear2power ratios than 7400)

The numbers come out a lil more than the cost of a NISMO with parts installed.
Honestly its so much more bang for your buck in the long run. You'd be guaranteed better track times in your modded nissan than nismo.
You will be missing the bodykit and rims for the money but, whatever u decide to put on l8r is your own idea of hotness... not some nissan marketer tryin to take your money.

Imho nismo isn't worth it yet. Maybe a refresh in 2011/12 will make the NISMO worthy

NIZMOZ · 09-19-2009, 10:31 PM

On a 370z probably so. But that was proven wrong on the 350z NISMO as it still beat people that were slammed with lots of aftermarket suspension stuff. It's all about the tuning.

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Originally Posted by chief_Roka

For the money... u can do so much better in the aftermarket.
Base+sprt 33k. Nismo 39k. That's 6grand.

Eibach pro lines n sways. $800 installed. (Will probably ad .01g)
Intake+exh+headers+hfc. $2k. (You would have 26hp=9more thn nismo)
Oil+diff+p.s. + tran cooler. $1.5k (optimum perf)
Carb fiber hood+diffuser. $1.1k. (Reduce 40+lbs)
Ecu prog. $800. (8100rpm will give u better gear2power ratios than 7400)

The numbers come out a lil more than the cost of a NISMO with parts installed.
Honestly its so much more bang for your buck in the long run. You'd be guaranteed better track times in your modded nissan than nismo.
You will be missing the bodykit and rims for the money but, whatever u decide to put on l8r is your own idea of hotness... not some nissan marketer tryin to take your money.

Imho nismo isn't worth it yet. Maybe a refresh in 2011/12 will make the NISMO worthy

MightyBobo · 09-19-2009, 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief_Roka

For the money... u can do so much better in the aftermarket.
Base+sprt 33k. Nismo 39k. That's 6grand.

Eibach pro lines n sways. $800 installed. (Will probably ad .01g)
Intake+exh+headers+hfc. $2k. (You would have 26hp=9more thn nismo)
Oil+diff+p.s. + tran cooler. $1.5k (optimum perf)
Carb fiber hood+diffuser. $1.1k. (Reduce 40+lbs)
Ecu prog. $800. (8100rpm will give u better gear2power ratios than 7400)

The numbers come out a lil more than the cost of a NISMO with parts installed.
Honestly its so much more bang for your buck in the long run. You'd be guaranteed better track times in your modded nissan than nismo.
You will be missing the bodykit and rims for the money but, whatever u decide to put on l8r is your own idea of hotness... not some nissan marketer tryin to take your money.

Imho nismo isn't worth it yet. Maybe a refresh in 2011/12 will make the NISMO worthy

People still consider Eibach springs as a solid upgrade, when you could get a good coil over setup for not much more? Show me one person on this board actually tracking their car with Eibachs...

Not to mention your horsepower numbers - people with those intake/exhaust mods are putting down numbers north of 300 on MUSTANG dynos. Seeing as 370's in stock form dyno right around 255 on a Mustang dyno...where the hell did you get 26HP from? That's far closer to 60-70 crank horsepower...not 26.

You honestly think a carbon fiber hood is going to save 40lbs over the stock aluminum hood?

Mike · 09-19-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

People still consider Eibach springs as a solid upgrade, when you could get a good coil over setup for not much more? Show me one person on this board actually tracking their car with Eibachs...

Eibachs are about $250, a coilover set is a lot more than that. And I am one person on this board actually tracking with eibachs.

MightyBobo · 09-20-2009, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike

Eibachs are about $250, a coilover set is a lot more than that. And I am one person on this board actually tracking with eibachs.

True. For some reason I looked at the price he listed and was thinking springs only.

Do you Auto-X only? Road course? Maybe I should put it this way - is there anyone who would actually consider Eibachs to be even REMOTELY comparable, performance wise, to a quality coil over setup? After doing my suspension once already (in my Camaro), I will never again do it again without making sure I invest in a quality setup first. Not that I didn't go with one that time (I used Bilstein re-valves and some custom rate springs), but I know enough that for the effort and time it took to do it, you may as well do it right the first time.

Mike · 09-20-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

True. For some reason I looked at the price he listed and was thinking springs only.

Do you Auto-X only? Road course? Maybe I should put it this way - is there anyone who would actually consider Eibachs to be even REMOTELY comparable, performance wise, to a quality coil over setup? After doing my suspension once already (in my Camaro), I will never again do it again without making sure I invest in a quality setup first. Not that I didn't go with one that time (I used Bilstein re-valves and some custom rate springs), but I know enough that for the effort and time it took to do it, you may as well do it right the first time.

Road course, exclusively. I was very happy with my eibach/cusco sways on the 350 with tokico shocks.. Bilstein shocks on the corvettes z51 suspension and should be happy with my eibach springs and sways on the 370. I've never had coilovers on any car

speedoflife · 09-19-2009, 11:03 PM

IL Track Tested: 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring | Straightline Blog on Edmunds' Inside Line

cab83_750 · 09-20-2009, 03:20 AM

If I had the $10,000.00, I would buy it in a heartbeat. If you like it buy it. Some people settle for a Subaru, a Porsche, a Corvette, whatever.

I believe that most of us here, especially me, are already stretched at Z we purchased; thus we might tend to issue some cheap shots at the Nismo.

Trips · 09-20-2009, 10:58 AM

Interesting posts my opinion the on the Eibachs are they are an alternative to the more expensive coilovers, you can track with the Eibachs but there is no fine tuning as there is with the coilovers.

Mike · 09-20-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's

Interesting posts my opinion the on the Eibachs are they are an alternative to the more expensive coilovers, you can track with the Eibachs but there is no fine tuning as there is with the coilovers.

Which keeps me from totally screwing everything up. I don't like having too much adjustability, I prefer something pre-engineered to work right out of the box. If I were to get coilovers, I would probably go for the nismo type setup with no adjustability.

09-01-2009, 01:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
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09-18-2009, 10:39 AM	#4 (permalink)
STI-GUY Base Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Left of Center Posts: 11 Drives: See Screen Name Rep Power: 273	ONe word- Warranty. Not saying you can't get better gains from base plus mods, but unless your dealership is mod friendly, hope you know someone if your car goes boom. I am not hating, if you are indeed ballin' on a budget and don't need a warranty then yes you can get better gains for less in the aftermarket. For me not too many cars have me wanting to get rid of my STI, but the Z is def one of them and the NISMO Z is hot! I have been there done that with the performance aftermarket world and I don't want to go down that road anymore. I want a good bang for my buck sports car that's a good weekend warrior. Make mine a WHITE NISMO PLEASE! Last edited by STI-GUY; 09-18-2009 at 10:58 AM.

09-20-2009, 10:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
Trips Administrator Join Date: May 2009 Location: Disneyland Posts: 8,736 Drives: 🔰 Rep Power: 10	Interesting posts my opinion the on the Eibachs are they are an alternative to the more expensive coilovers, you can track with the Eibachs but there is no fine tuning as there is with the coilovers. __________________

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08-31-2009, 06:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Shunya A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,069 Drives: You Crazy! Rep Power: 24	yeha i want that tach

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chief_Roka Base Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: BKLYN,NY/DFW,TX Posts: 166 Drives: '10 370z7at B.C. Rep Power: 17	For the money... u can do so much better in the aftermarket. Base+sprt 33k. Nismo 39k. That's 6grand. Eibach pro lines n sways. $800 installed. (Will probably ad .01g) Intake+exh+headers+hfc. $2k. (You would have 26hp=9more thn nismo) Oil+diff+p.s. + tran cooler. $1.5k (optimum perf) Carb fiber hood+diffuser. $1.1k. (Reduce 40+lbs) Ecu prog. $800. (8100rpm will give u better gear2power ratios than 7400) The numbers come out a lil more than the cost of a NISMO with parts installed. Honestly its so much more bang for your buck in the long run. You'd be guaranteed better track times in your modded nissan than nismo. You will be missing the bodykit and rims for the money but, whatever u decide to put on l8r is your own idea of hotness... not some nissan marketer tryin to take your money. Imho nismo isn't worth it yet. Maybe a refresh in 2011/12 will make the NISMO worthy

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speedoflife Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MS/TX Posts: 268 Drives: '06 Pontiac G.P. Rep Power: 17	IL Track Tested: 2009 Nissan Nismo 370Z vs. 2009 Nissan 370Z Touring \| Straightline Blog on Edmunds' Inside Line

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cab83_750 Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: CA Posts: 887 Drives: 09 NISSAN 370Z Rep Power: 419	If I had the $10,000.00, I would buy it in a heartbeat. If you like it buy it. Some people settle for a Subaru, a Porsche, a Corvette, whatever. I believe that most of us here, especially me, are already stretched at Z we purchased; thus we might tend to issue some cheap shots at the Nismo.