Jan 19, 2014 article: next 370Z

Z_ealot · 01-21-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ajc1884

When will we hear an an official announcement pertaining to the 2015 z? Does anyone know what month the 2014 Z was made available/announced? Maybe that will give us a clue.

Come on Nissan!!! Get it together!!!!!

2014Z went on sale in august of 2013...i dont think we should be expecting a new Z for at least another year or 2 the way things are looking...heck for all we know nissan could be looking to launch the next Z and iDX back to back, i know i have already seen the NISMO division putting up a poll on facebook asking what everyone would want to see powertrain wise in the iDX NISMO

/Angelo350Z/ · 01-21-2014, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Duc_Z09

Ugh, Nissan please please PLEASE stay away from a boosted 4 cylinder platform! If you want to build a Miata that's fine, but leave the Z out of it.

I chose my Nismo over the more powerful Ford Mustang 5.0 and SS Camaro because it was/is a better overall package IMO. Squeeze out 50 more hp (preferably NA, but low psi SC would be cool too) and it would be absolutely perfect.

Not sure why people are talking about the Subaru/Toyota/Scion thing in the same conversation... different price point and entirely different performance level. Has anyone driven one? I have, and that thing is gutless!

Agreed. I'm all about progress, but I think using a 4 cylinder for improved fuel economy and weight savings is a step in the wrong direction. Does anyone really buy a sports car for practicality and fuel efficiency? If Nissan wants to reduce weight, do it the conventional, though more expensive way and take it out on the body. I would prefer not to see a Z car in the next few years than a Z35 with a 4 cylinder.

And yes, please stop talking about the BRZ/FR-S, let the IDx worry about them.

Justice97 · 01-21-2014, 05:00 PM

I would rather see the Z become a power house sports car and sell for 50k than become a "gas saver."
I will never buy another Z if they don't offer a six.

not the future I wanted for Z

jlo370z · 01-21-2014, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Justice97

I would rather see the Z become a power house sports car and sell for 50k than become a "gas saver."
I will never buy another Z if they don't offer a six.

not the future I wanted for Z

I see a GTR or Corvette in my future

/Angelo350Z/ · 01-21-2014, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Justice97

I would rather see the Z become a power house sports car and sell for 50k than become a "gas saver."
I will never buy another Z if they don't offer a six.

not the future I wanted for Z

I think the Z should move up in price and performance. Leave the $30K/$40 K segment to the STi, Evo, and possibly next Silvia. A sub $60K Z weighing around 3K pounds with 400 hp would be ideal for me. Think Ferrari F355 performance at Base Porsche Cayman pricing. I would like to see the Z35 considerably out perform an NSX Trype-R and Cayman S, and keep up with a Carrera S.

Ah, we can all dream.

Firebase99 · 01-21-2014, 08:48 PM

Like I said, I have no interest in a $48k z let alone $60. Could I afford it? Yes. Would I pay that for a Nissan outside of VERY CLOSE GTR performance? Yes. Very close. Ain't gonna happen, and at that price I'll be in a "base" $30k z or for that a C7 or Cayman at $60+

Duc_Z09 · 01-21-2014, 09:34 PM

I think the problem with trying to keep the Z in the low $30Ks is that it's not realistic; we're living in an era of $40K Mustangs/Camaros. Times are changing, and even a "cheap" car like the FR-S is still $25K before options. Give it wheels you'd want to be seen with, metallic paint, a radio... and now all of a sudden the 200 hp wonder-car isn't such a bargain compared to your wife's v6 Mustang.

My vote would be increase hp output in the v6 platform, drop a few pounds, and continue to compete with the American pony cars at a similar (or even slightly higher) price point. It'll still sell just fine.

brucelidat · 01-21-2014, 10:00 PM

I am okay with it going up somewhat and decreasing road noise and NVH, but not to 55-60k like the other guy was saying. Maybe high 30s to 40 starting.

cheshirecat · 01-22-2014, 02:19 PM

Nissan is looking for sales. A 55k Z is not going to be a seller. Could it be a great car? Absolutely. However, it would not be a sound business decision.

Chuck33079 · 01-22-2014, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cheshirecat

Nissan is looking for sales. A 55k Z is not going to be a seller. Could it be a great car? Absolutely. However, it would not be a sound business decision.

The last time the Z cost $50k Nissan discontinued it. Given how poorly the 370 has sold, we should be lucky they haven't killed it again. And if a turbo 4 makes the same or more power with better EPA mileage numbers, the general public will like it more.

I'm still not sure why people think that the Z is going to be competing with the FRS/BRZ. That's what the IDx is for.

Firebase99 · 01-22-2014, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The last time the Z cost $50k Nissan discontinued it. Given how poorly the 370 has sold, we should be lucky they haven't killed it again. And if a turbo 4 makes the same or more power with better EPA mileage numbers, the general public will like it more.
I'm still not sure why people think that the Z is going to be competing with the FRS/BRZ. That's what the IDx is for.

The all important metrics, the dollar is God. Like may have said, thinking two years before we see it and itll be a Q50/60 in a Z, probably a turbo 4 and an optional "NISMO" 6, thank you and goodnight!!

Chuck33079 · 01-22-2014, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

The all important metrics, the dollar is God.

If the Z continues to sell 10k units a year, we won't have a Z for much longer. That's just a fact.

theDreamer · 01-22-2014, 02:41 PM

Nissan could stay away from a turbo 4 banger but they have not invested into a proper new engine.
It seems they just want to take anything they have and put out a 300HP turbo 4 and call it a day. Just looked up the IDx size and it is a little smaller than the FRS so unless Nissan is building 2 cars of the same size the IDx is the response to the FRS.

Chuck33079 · 01-22-2014, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

It seems they just want to take anything they have and put out a 300HP turbo 4 and call it a day.

And if that turbo 4 came in a <3000lb car, I'd be all for it. Bonus points if it had forged internals.

kenchan · 01-22-2014, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

If the Z continues to sell 10k units a year, we won't have a Z for much longer. That's just a fact.

the more reasons why i bought my 370Z 6MT.

01-21-2014, 05:00 PM	#63 (permalink)
Justice97 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: San Antonio Posts: 387 Drives: 11 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 15	I would rather see the Z become a power house sports car and sell for 50k than become a "gas saver." I will never buy another Z if they don't offer a six. not the future I wanted for Z jlo370z and mag_black like this.

01-21-2014, 09:34 PM	#67 (permalink)
Duc_Z09 Track Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Frederick MD Posts: 876 Drives: With the blinker on. Rep Power: 23	I think the problem with trying to keep the Z in the low $30Ks is that it's not realistic; we're living in an era of $40K Mustangs/Camaros. Times are changing, and even a "cheap" car like the FR-S is still $25K before options. Give it wheels you'd want to be seen with, metallic paint, a radio... and now all of a sudden the 200 hp wonder-car isn't such a bargain compared to your wife's v6 Mustang. My vote would be increase hp output in the v6 platform, drop a few pounds, and continue to compete with the American pony cars at a similar (or even slightly higher) price point. It'll still sell just fine. __________________ 2009 370z #206 (all mods are Home Depot) 2009 Ducati 848 (full Ohlins, Termignoni, etc) 2003 Grand Cherokee (long arms, big tires, 4.56, lockers)

01-21-2014, 10:00 PM	#68 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	I am okay with it going up somewhat and decreasing road noise and NVH, but not to 55-60k like the other guy was saying. Maybe high 30s to 40 starting. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

01-22-2014, 02:19 PM	#69 (permalink)
cheshirecat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 1,428 Drives: N54 135i Rep Power: 292	Nissan is looking for sales. A 55k Z is not going to be a seller. Could it be a great car? Absolutely. However, it would not be a sound business decision. Montez likes this.

01-22-2014, 02:41 PM	#73 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4210	Nissan could stay away from a turbo 4 banger but they have not invested into a proper new engine. It seems they just want to take anything they have and put out a 300HP turbo 4 and call it a day. Just looked up the IDx size and it is a little smaller than the FRS so unless Nissan is building 2 cars of the same size the IDx is the response to the FRS. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

01-21-2014, 08:48 PM	#66 (permalink)
Firebase99 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: fl Posts: 1,372 Drives: 14 3.8 Gen Coupe GT Rep Power: 14033	Like I said, I have no interest in a $48k z let alone $60. Could I afford it? Yes. Would I pay that for a Nissan outside of VERY CLOSE GTR performance? Yes. Very close. Ain't gonna happen, and at that price I'll be in a "base" $30k z or for that a C7 or Cayman at $60+

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