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Originally Posted by 7speed Errr, I'm sure the people that have had fuel starve said the same thing. Just remember "can" doesn't always mean you "should". So what exactly do

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Old 01-06-2014, 08:56 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Errr, I'm sure the people that have had fuel starve said the same thing.


Just remember "can" doesn't always mean you "should".
So what exactly do you think happens when you redline the car more often? Why do you think the factory put the rev limiter in? Why do you think they put it at 7500rpm if the car couldn't handle it? I'm not saying go out and keep the car bouncing off fuel cut your entire daily commute, but the idea that the car will damage itself at redline is asinine. It's right up there with the mind control chemicals in the airplane contrails and vaccines giving you autism.
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Why? I think Chuck summed it up..."Exactly. That's why the rev limiter is there- to prevent damage. Do you think Nissan would sell and warranty a car that was able to be damaged by frequent trips to the redline?
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That was a snarky post mainly aimed to mock the poster's posited sentiment that people who willingly & freely redline their cars (often) were likely to treat women in a predatory fashion. Also, the notion that one should use 6th gear to accelerate from 60 - 130...
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Also, the notion that one should use 6th gear to accelerate from 60 - 130...
Yeah, that's pretty funny.

Putting a lot of load on the motor at too low rpms is far worse than hitting the factory rev limiter.
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So what exactly do you think happens when you redline the car more often? Why do you think the factory put the rev limiter in? Why do you think they put it at 7500rpm if the car couldn't handle it? I'm not saying go out and keep the car bouncing off fuel cut your entire daily commute, but the idea that the car will damage itself at redline is asinine. It's right up there with the mind control chemicals in the airplane contrails and vaccines giving you autism.
Haha, I'm with you.(Shiiiiii once I get a tune I'll be doing some 8k shifts)

But people that think they can redline stoplight to stoplight on a daily basis without any consequence at some point it's going to catch up with them.
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Haha, I'm with you.(Shiiiiii once I get a tune I'll be doing some 8k shifts)

But people that think they can redline stoplight to stoplight on a daily basis without any consequence at some point it's going to catch up with them.
And you will then find out why the rev limiter is set at 7500. Don't raise it. The internals of the oil pump will self destruct and your motor will make a very expensive noise.
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I feel the car loves driving between 2.5K-4K. Even when riding the clutch, when DD'ing approach 1st gear close to 3K and ease it in. Then keep your shifts where the next gear lands in that range. There's too little power at 2K. If youre being a little more spirited (not balls to the wall), try fast revving into the 5-6K band before sliding into the next gear, keeping it in the 4-6K band. Better acceleration there. That's where I find the most smoothness in shifting in the two driving styles. I feel the clutch and synchros happier there.

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Im guessing the same goes for the A /T shift shift ?

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This car is a bit difficult to drive when you are a novice to the manual scene. I had driven automatics for a bit over 10 years so getting use to this new driving style was a bit difficult. Nonetheless, in my case I shift in between 3k & 4k fron 1 gear to six. Somehow, I get the feeling that my car likes it a bit rough when I shift at higher revs. To each their own but shifting around 3k is fine. However if you want to have more fun higher revs are a must.
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No need to use more than 2 gears

1st gear: 0-35 mph
6th gear: 35+ mph
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This car is a bit difficult to drive when you are a novice to the manual scene. I had driven automatics for a bit over 10 years so getting use to this new driving style was a bit difficult. Nonetheless, in my case I shift in between 3k & 4k fron 1 gear to six. Somehow, I get the feeling that my car likes it a bit rough when I shift at higher revs. To each their own but shifting around 3k is fine. However if you want to have more fun higher revs are a must.
This engine very much prefers to be shifted at 3k-4k versus a lower speed. It is much smoother and the power delivery is better.
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That was a snarky post mainly aimed to mock the poster's posited sentiment that people who willingly & freely redline their cars (often) were likely to treat women in a predatory fashion. Also, the notion that one should use 6th gear to accelerate from 60 - 130...
6th... worthless gear. I literally never use it. Hell, I keep it in 4th a lot of the time just to avoid speeding too egregiously.

It's even worse on my bike. 3rd is cruising along at 70mph, 4th-6th will get you arrested.

I hate lugging engines along at low rpm which is probably why my fuel economy is such shite.
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Exactly. That's why the rev limiter is there- to prevent damage. Do you think Nissan would sell and warranty a car that was able to be damaged by frequent trips to the redline?
BWahhahhahhhahhhahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Until the advent of computerized engine controls, the only rev limiter was your foot and the physical limits of rods and valve springs. I owned six vehicles before my first EFI car. Only my '72 Cutlass had rev limiter of sorts, it would float the valves at about 5500 rpm. Aftermarket coil packs sometimes had rev limiters built in.

As for the dyno comment, that was half-assed. To be completely-assed, you shift at the point where the rising torque in the next gear equals the falling torque in the current gear to achieve maximum acceleration.

Otherwise, shift whatever the hell rpm you want that's allowed by the ECU. I grandpa my G for the most part because I'm not Big Bank Hank and can't afford to fill up every other day.
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