performance difference between no sport or sport package

kenchan · 11-15-2013, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jhtran13

this is gonna be a daily driver, i dont think im gonna track it or mod it

maybe in the future i will add a better sound unit

if youre not going to mod it, then definitely get the sport package and leave it alone.

tonythetiger · 11-13-2013, 10:08 PM

really depends on what ur going to do, I bought the base, still have it for over 2.5yrs and still modding...

tonythetiger · 11-13-2013, 10:09 PM

btw selling swift springs let me know if ur interested

paperboy42190 · 11-14-2013, 05:03 AM

stock for stock, sports package looks much better and worth it IMO

Gadgetech · 11-14-2013, 05:13 AM

I got a 2014 base with the sports package. I prefer the radio location and extra cubby you get with the base car. The standard radio isn't bad and if you're in to aftermarket stereos then you have less to deal with than switching from the Bose unit.

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andre12031948 · 11-14-2013, 07:02 AM

Before the but I had an 08 enth. 350, similar to sport. I found a base 2012 with only 1k miles & owned by a doctor who had to leave the area/country? Maybe a terrorist?

Mileage & condition was incredible & I had a pumpkin with LSD at home. So after driving it for only 5 minutes, I found this car to be perfect for me. Now the brakes(disks) were smaller, but the car stopped just fine plus if I will do some drag racing, lighter brakes is like having lighter wheels.

So I hit a point in life (65 yrs) where I no longer will drive the country roads that are in my N.Y.S upstate area at 120+ mph with the possibility of a deer or other animals jumping out of the woods, or me losing control on a turn & smashing into trees. A smooth driving car with an excellent auto trans. made sense to me.

I didn't need/want a Nismo.

So under different circumstances , a sport model with a manual trans. would be a must, but sometimes for some of us, the base model would be fine. However, I do HAVE to have LSD.

Had to drive yesterday for 5 hours. Found the car a pleasure to drive. I'm happy(for now) with a base.

b15 · 11-14-2013, 06:56 AM

Get the sports. The brakes and synchro rev are worth it. Sure the base brakes are adequate, but I see lots of people upgrade the base to the sport package brakes because of the looks. The kit will run you almost 1/3 of the sport package price, and you still won't have syncro rev match, or the forged wheels and so much more.

UNKNOWN_370 · 11-14-2013, 07:59 AM

Sport pkg is awesome... The akebonos aren't track ready but are easily track upgradable. A $700 stoptech or z1 brake upgrade kit and some motul brake fluid and you're good to go. For more rigorous tracking you can add stillens brake cooling kit. This is an extra $350 investment. But it beats $5000 in a completely new brake kit. The biggest value are the wheels based on them being ultralight and forged. The LSD is not ideal for track use but for autox and tackling twisties, it does the job well.
The spoilers make the car look slightlymore aggressive but is probably the cheesiest part of the package... The sport pkg is,definitely worth it as a baseline for a light or moderately modified car.

onzedge · 11-14-2013, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Sport pkg is awesome... The akebonos aren't track ready but are easily track upgradable. A $700 stoptech or z1 brake upgrade kit and some motul brake fluid and you're good to go. For more rigorous tracking you can add stillens brake cooling kit. This is an extra $350 investment. But it beats $5000 in a completely new brake kit. The biggest value are the wheels based on them being ultralight and forged. The LSD is not ideal for track use but for autox and tackling twisties, it does the job well.
The spoilers make the car look slightlymore aggressive but is probably the cheesiest part of the package... The sport pkg is,definitely worth it as a baseline for a light or moderately modified car.

mab864 · 11-14-2013, 08:07 AM

At the dealers in my area, it was hard to find a base model without the sport package. It seems like most or even all of the Z's in my area had the sport package. That made the choice easy for me... I wanted the sport package anyway. Better tires, wheels, brakes, and sycncro rev-match made it worth it for me.

Masterbeatty · 11-14-2013, 12:39 PM

My thought process when buying my non-sport base was why spend an extra 9k for a 2012 sport when I'm going to change all that stuff anyways when I mod it or I can get a base non sport 2011 for 26k out the door brand new.

I have auto crossed it this past summer and last year a few times and stock for stock against another sport 6mt his time was 2 secs faster because he was running a square set up on Hoosier a6 tires. My brakes are great since I put super blue race fluid in. So it's all up to you and how much you want to spend. The only thing I would like from the sport pkg. is the syncro rev match. I heel toe just fine but not perfect like srm does.

Chuck33079 · 11-14-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Masterbeatty

My thought process when buying my non-sport base was why spend an extra 9k for a 2012 sport when I'm going to change all that stuff anyways when I mod it or I can get a base non sport 2011 for 26k out the door brand new.

I have auto crossed it this past summer and last year a few times and stock for stock against another sport 6mt his time was 2 secs faster because he was running a square set up on Hoosier a6 tires. My brakes are great since I put super blue race fluid in. So it's all up to you and how much you want to spend. The only thing I would like from the sport pkg. is the syncro rev match. I heel toe just fine but not perfect like srm does.

I'm sorry, I'm not following your math. The sport package is a $3k option, not $9k.

Were you a comparable driver to the other guy? That's the other variable in the equation.

Masterbeatty · 11-14-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I'm sorry, I'm not following your math. The sport package is a $3k option, not $9k.

You are correct! But ...... I bought a year old car (2011)in May of 2012 and the new base model was $32k plus 3k. So that's where I got the 9 k from. Remember the prices dropped for 2014 370z's.

But still performance aspect is marginal IMO and experience. The only big difference I would say is that the auto sport is significantly faster than a sport base in a drag race,(LSD and faster shifts). That i will argue, I was smoked by one in the 1/8th mile when I lived in San Diego. But other than that the difference can be argued both ways.

Also for 3 grand I can get a better LSD, brake pads, brake fluid and some puma's and perform better than a base plus sport and pay for one or two track days or
an oil cooler. If you plan on buying it to upgrade that anyway than I would say get a base to not waste any money. So function over form. Personal preference/ wallet size.

Chuck33079 · 11-14-2013, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Masterbeatty

You are correct! But ...... I bought a year old car (2011)in May of 2012 and the new base model was $32k plus 3k. So that's where I got the 9 k from. Remember the prices dropped for 2014 370z's.

But still performance aspect is marginal IMO and experience. The only big difference I would say is that the auto sport is significantly faster than a sport base in a drag race,(LSD and faster shifts). That i will argue, I was smoked by one in the 1/8th mile when I lived in San Diego. But other than that the difference can be argued both ways.

Also for 3 grand I can get a better LSD, brake pads, brake fluid and some puma's and perform better than a base plus sport and pay for one or two track days or
an oil cooler. If you plan on buying it to upgrade that anyway than I would say get a base to not waste any money. So function over form. Personal preference/ wallet size.

So you're comparing a new car to a used one? Gotcha. That's not really apples to apples, is it?

Your three grand doesn't include wheels and tires. Also, the akebonos are much better for track use than the base brakes, you just need pads and cooling. If you decide that you want to upgrade from the sports package, people will buy akebonos, wheels and the LSD. So you can make some money back there too.

b15 · 11-14-2013, 01:19 PM

I'm sure the base brakes are plenty adequate, however:

vs.

When was the last time you saw a sports car without blingy brakes

However I do realize the OP was asking about performance difference and not looks, so yes, I'm sure you'll be just fine with a base.

11-13-2013, 10:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 193	really depends on what ur going to do, I bought the base, still have it for over 2.5yrs and still modding... Wonka2581 likes this. __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

11-13-2013, 10:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
tonythetiger A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SA, TX Posts: 1,035 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z PG MT Rep Power: 193	btw selling swift springs let me know if ur interested __________________ KWV3/Eibach/StillenG3/FI CBE+LTH+34Row/Uprev/SPL/SouthBendSS/QuaifeLSD/4.08/TommyKaira/Status/VolkZE40/AP Radical BBK/Seibon/Amuse/VIS/Sparco/WorksBellGTC/RJM/Nismo

11-14-2013, 05:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
paperboy42190 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Alhambra, CA Posts: 193 Drives: 2007 Acura TL Type-S Rep Power: 14	stock for stock, sports package looks much better and worth it IMO ortiz73ca likes this.

11-14-2013, 05:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
Gadgetech A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Cumming, Ga Posts: 1,559 Drives: The Short Bus Rep Power: 870	I got a 2014 base with the sports package. I prefer the radio location and extra cubby you get with the base car. The standard radio isn't bad and if you're in to aftermarket stereos then you have less to deal with than switching from the Bose unit. Sent from my Lumia 1020 using Tapatalk __________________ Upstate Z Club

11-14-2013, 07:02 AM	#6 (permalink)
andre12031948 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: monticello new york 127 Posts: 1,095 Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t Rep Power: 0	base + sport in my opinion is best for the avg. Z guy BUT Before the but I had an 08 enth. 350, similar to sport. I found a base 2012 with only 1k miles & owned by a doctor who had to leave the area/country? Maybe a terrorist? Mileage & condition was incredible & I had a pumpkin with LSD at home. So after driving it for only 5 minutes, I found this car to be perfect for me. Now the brakes(disks) were smaller, but the car stopped just fine plus if I will do some drag racing, lighter brakes is like having lighter wheels. So I hit a point in life (65 yrs) where I no longer will drive the country roads that are in my N.Y.S upstate area at 120+ mph with the possibility of a deer or other animals jumping out of the woods, or me losing control on a turn & smashing into trees. A smooth driving car with an excellent auto trans. made sense to me. I didn't need/want a Nismo. So under different circumstances , a sport model with a manual trans. would be a must, but sometimes for some of us, the base model would be fine. However, I do HAVE to have LSD. Had to drive yesterday for 5 hours. Found the car a pleasure to drive. I'm happy(for now) with a base. Last edited by andre12031948; 11-14-2013 at 08:09 PM.

11-14-2013, 06:56 AM	#7 (permalink)
b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36572	Get the sports. The brakes and synchro rev are worth it. Sure the base brakes are adequate, but I see lots of people upgrade the base to the sport package brakes because of the looks. The kit will run you almost 1/3 of the sport package price, and you still won't have syncro rev match, or the forged wheels and so much more. Magic Bus and ortiz73ca like this.

11-14-2013, 07:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	Sport pkg is awesome... The akebonos aren't track ready but are easily track upgradable. A $700 stoptech or z1 brake upgrade kit and some motul brake fluid and you're good to go. For more rigorous tracking you can add stillens brake cooling kit. This is an extra $350 investment. But it beats $5000 in a completely new brake kit. The biggest value are the wheels based on them being ultralight and forged. The LSD is not ideal for track use but for autox and tackling twisties, it does the job well. The spoilers make the car look slightlymore aggressive but is probably the cheesiest part of the package... The sport pkg is,definitely worth it as a baseline for a light or moderately modified car. Streetlife, onzedge, Chuck33079 and 3 others like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

11-14-2013, 08:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
mab864 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Oregon Posts: 482 Drives: 13 Sport 6MT Rep Power: 12	At the dealers in my area, it was hard to find a base model without the sport package. It seems like most or even all of the Z's in my area had the sport package. That made the choice easy for me... I wanted the sport package anyway. Better tires, wheels, brakes, and sycncro rev-match made it worth it for me.

11-14-2013, 12:39 PM	#11 (permalink)
Masterbeatty A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2012 Location: Whales Vagina Posts: 4,586 Drives: the speed limit... Rep Power: 122868	My thought process when buying my non-sport base was why spend an extra 9k for a 2012 sport when I'm going to change all that stuff anyways when I mod it or I can get a base non sport 2011 for 26k out the door brand new. I have auto crossed it this past summer and last year a few times and stock for stock against another sport 6mt his time was 2 secs faster because he was running a square set up on Hoosier a6 tires. My brakes are great since I put super blue race fluid in. So it's all up to you and how much you want to spend. The only thing I would like from the sport pkg. is the syncro rev match. I heel toe just fine but not perfect like srm does. __________________ 2011 MB 6MT Masterbeatty journal

11-14-2013, 01:19 PM	#15 (permalink)
b15 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Chicago Posts: 3,229 Drives: 4drz Rep Power: 36572	I'm sure the base brakes are plenty adequate, however: vs. When was the last time you saw a sports car without blingy brakes However I do realize the OP was asking about performance difference and not looks, so yes, I'm sure you'll be just fine with a base. onzedge and Chuck33079 like this. Last edited by b15; 11-14-2013 at 01:21 PM.

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