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DavidZ370

11-06-2013 07:04 PM

Hard driving?

I SWEAR i looked up for 25 minutes and couldnt find anything :shakes head: what do you consider driving hard? i have a 7at:roflpuke2::roflpuke2: and never go over 6500 rpms only have hit that mark 2x im on my 550th mile lmfaoo... i cant not have fun with this car especially after that crappy *** civic si i had for a good year. give me some advice as i am new to the whole Z driving thing. ALSO SORRY IF THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP i couldnt find it and after i ended up in the honda forum searching via google i gave up ]=
(Shouldve gotten the 6MT fml )

Chuck33079

11-06-2013 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2558264)

I SWEAR i looked up for 25 minutes and couldnt find anything :shakes head: what do you consider driving hard? i have a 7at:roflpuke2::roflpuke2: and never go over 6500 rpms only have hit that mark 2x im on my 550th mile lmfaoo... i cant not have fun with this car especially after that crappy *** civic si i had for a good year. give me some advice as i am new to the whole Z driving thing. ALSO SORRY IF THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP i couldnt find it and after i ended up in the honda forum searching via google i gave up ]=
(Shouldve gotten the 6MT fml )

So we've decided to ignore the break-in procedure in the manual?

And if you're so upset about the 7at, why did you buy it?

alcheng

11-06-2013 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2558264)

get a ps3 and gt5.....

dP3NGU1N

11-06-2013 07:39 PM

I don't understand what kind of advice you're looking for.... The best advice I have for you is to stop using double negatives.

The public school system seems to have failed this poor fellow.

back on topic: if you're having fun why are you complaining about the transmission? Your post is full of inconsistencies. "I never go over 6500 rpm" followed by "hit that mark 2x" lol. Stop worrying about driving hard and fast. Just have fun and stay in school.

Wonka2581

11-06-2013 07:41 PM

:wtf2: You have a Z have fun..... and 7AT is better then the 6MT:stirthepot:

JWillis72

11-06-2013 07:52 PM

I tracked my 7AT at Sebring without problems and redlined it a ton since adding a supercharger so I don't think you are going to hurt it stock.

axmea?

11-06-2013 08:11 PM

Hard driving = what you are doing

nhbpcivicsi

11-06-2013 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2558264)

crappy *** civic si i had for a good year.)

That's not nice :gtfo2:

NissanGuy23

11-06-2013 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi (Post 2558336)

That's not nice :gtfo2:

Don't worry I'm pretty sure he's drunk

Chuck33079

11-06-2013 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NissanGuy23 (Post 2558342)

Don't worry I'm pretty sure he's drunk

Going from his post history, he's always this (in)coherent. Maybe he's always drunk?

Haboob

11-06-2013 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2558344)

Going from his post history, he's always this (in)coherent. Maybe he's always drunk?

Is that a problem? :icon14:

alcheng

11-06-2013 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2558344)

Going from his post history, he's always this (in)coherent. Maybe he's always drunk?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2558377)

Is that a problem? :icon14:

isn't that a problem? :confused:

:bowrofl:

dP3NGU1N

11-06-2013 09:02 PM

I like where this thread is going.

Haboob

11-06-2013 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alcheng (Post 2558381)

isn't that a problem? :confused:

:bowrofl:

Only if you admit it's a problem.

:inoutroflpuke:

SmokeEater27

11-06-2013 09:07 PM

This might get good....i could use some good reading at work tomorrow lol :drama:

Minsu

11-06-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dP3NGU1N (Post 2558310)

Why the need to always insinuate that people are dumb? Im sure the school system has done its job, we all know how shitty the school system is anyways?
Im sure if you werent a car enthusiast and you lacked knowledge on what the norm is and whats not im sure you would want to ask as well. Is hitting 6500 rpm high well if the maximum is X then maybe you should go near the X due to it meaning your redlining which means your pushing the engine that much harder? And OP locally i shift no higher than 3500rpm, when yielding out onto a highway/freeway/w.e elseway i usually shift around 6k.

Minsu

11-06-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeEater27 (Post 2558392)

This might get good....i could use some good reading at work tomorrow lol :drama:

Sorry for bringing some sense back into this, hopefully the thread goes on?:ughdance::tiphat::stirthepot:

Haboob

11-06-2013 09:09 PM

I like to set the shift light to 3,000 RPM. That way I get that look that I'm racing, when I'm just putt-putting along. :ugh2:

Chuck33079

11-06-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Minsu (Post 2558393)

It's not the questions he's asking, it's how he's asking them. Internet forums are places where we communicate by writing. You dont have to post a masters thesis, but you do have to write in such a manner as to be understood. It's not a text message to your buddies. The better we understand the question, the more effort well put into answering it.

And if the redline is set at 7500 rpm from the factory, there is no issue whatsoever running up to it on a regular basis.

1adam12

11-06-2013 09:31 PM

So what are we saying? If I'm going to the bar make sure I hit the rev limiter so I can get there faster.:driving:

DavidZ370

11-06-2013 10:00 PM

LMFAOO, i wrote this at work and my boss isnt too cool with us using computers for non work related things. What i meant to say was is going 6500 rpm bad Before break in

DavidZ370

11-06-2013 10:01 PM

The inner mentally challenged came out while writing this thread.. I apologize

DavidZ370

11-06-2013 10:01 PM

Ohh as for the si i really didnt like it at all but its my opinion i guess

Chuck33079

11-06-2013 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2558455)

LMFAOO, i wrote this at work and my boss isnt too cool with us using computers for non work related things. What i meant to say was is going 6500 rpm bad Before break in

A couple of times won't hurt anything. Just try to keep it under 4k rpm for the first thousand miles, change the oil and romp on it to your heart's content.

DavidZ370

11-06-2013 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2558475)

A couple of times won't hurt anything. Just try to keep it under 4k rpm for the first thousand miles, change the oil and romp on it to your heart's content.

Out of curiosity, what are the effects if you shift over 4 k

NissanGuy23

11-06-2013 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2558507)

Out of curiosity, what are the effects if you shift over 4 k

VTEC VVEL kicks in yo

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onzedge

11-06-2013 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2558264)

Here's my advice:

Sell the Z
Get a Prius
Leave your wife/girlfriend/boyfriend/whatever
Quit your job
Sell all your stuff
Read the book "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"
Buy some audio books on grammar/English
Hit the road for 12 to 18 months
Do not speak with anyone the entire time
Come home
Join a 12 step program
Enroll in a continuing education class or two
Come back to the forum after your head has cleared and you have achieved a level of enlightenment beyond your current pathetic state

Good luck!!!! Let us know how it works out.

Have a great day.

fzgood

11-07-2013 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haboob (Post 2558398)

I like to set the shift light to 3,000 RPM. That way I get that look that I'm racing, when I'm just putt-putting along. :ugh2:

I might have to do this. I just got a speeding ticket... my second of 2013. Before getting the Z, my most recent citation happened in early 2006.

To answer OP's question, I think driving hard in this car is kind of impossible on the street without entering felony territory. Full throttle at 6.5 revs can be terrifying, especially with the vibration in the manual gear lever.

jaedub

11-07-2013 12:23 AM

I think the break in period for the Z was either 2.5k or 3k miles. Till then, I wouldn't really stress the engine too hard. I'd personally play under 4k RPM. Maybe 5k sometimes :)

jaedub

11-07-2013 12:24 AM

And you should've gotten the 6MT. So much more fun IMO.

Wonka2581

11-07-2013 12:45 AM

I would break in the car the way it is going to be driven. I believe if you break in a car as a turd it will be a turd. Go 1,000 miles change the oil and filter and beat that bitch. ;)

Chuck33079

11-07-2013 06:12 AM

Hard driving?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2558507)

Out of curiosity, what are the effects if you shift over 4 k

None, but the factory recommended break-in says to keep it under 4k. It's all in the manual. You have read the manual, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 2558567)

I think the break in period for the Z was either 2.5k or 3k miles. Till then, I wouldn't really stress the engine too hard. I'd personally play under 4k RPM. Maybe 5k sometimes :)

It's 1k miles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wonka2581 (Post 2558574)

I would break in the car the way it is going to be driven. I believe if you break in a car as a turd it will be a turd. Go 1,000 miles change the oil and filter and beat that bitch. ;)

The manufacturer seems to disagree with you.;)

I know, engine break-in is one of those subjects that will be debated until the sun burns out. :rofl2:

Wonka2581

11-07-2013 07:42 AM

I know the manufacture will say different. But it's a personal preference, like my R6 that I had I put maybe 600 miles on it before I beat it. But every time I ran the same bike I would always win and everyone who road it was like wtf? What did you do to it. It's all in the way you brake it in...

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Haboob

11-07-2013 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaedub (Post 2558568)

And you should've gotten the 6MT. So much more fun IMO.

Let's not turn this into that thread.

zeeder

11-07-2013 08:26 AM

I did a hybrid break-in where the first 500 miles, excluding the test drive and a couple of times, I kept it under the 4k revs and then I went to 5k revs and so on.

ElVee

11-07-2013 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidZ370 (Post 2558264)

what do you consider driving hard?

Quote:

i have a 7at:roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

What's wrong with the 7AT? There are certainly people who want the visceral feedback and involvement that a clutch gives them, and that's perfectly fine. But our 7AT comes with a manual mode which allows you to get roughly the same driving effect, just without the mechanical involvement. And the shifts are faster.

Quote:

and never go over 6500 rpms only have hit that mark 2x im on my 550th mile lmfaoo...

We can get into the whole discussion on whether you should drive a car "hard" from the start, or if you should follow the factory spec in the manual and be easy on it for the first 1200 miles. I lean more towards this argument: Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power. In the end, it's your car and neither of us are likely master engineers, so you choose what you'd like to do. :)

(I know, the page looks like it was made in 1996 on Geocities. But it's still valid advice.)

If you've not been over 6500 rpms, you're not driving it hard. Driving hard should at least include teasing the marked redline.

Quote:

give me some advice as i am new to the whole Z driving thing.

Leave VDC on, first of all. Take it off if you know high performance driving and/or are on a closed course. Otherwise, as mentioned above, this car has enough performance to get you into unsafe territory in a flash.

The Z has great balance to learn and learn to enjoy turns with. It loves turns and has really great balance and grip for it, as long as you don't lose the tail too early with too much throttle. If you're on a closed course, you can play with the tail behavior crazy well.

Adjust your side mirrors co you cover your blind spots as much as you can. This usually means flaring them out a little bit more than you'd use on most cars (at least that applies to me...). We have awful blind spots that you need to protect yourself from.

Beyond that, if you can safely drive a car, you can drive the Z. :) It's not a minivan; you won't floor it after every light and may not floor it much at all on public roads, and it'll still be fun.

That said, drive within your budget as well, that is gas and tire expense, as well as your insurance. Don't hoon around if you can't absorb the tickets.

Quote:

(Shouldve gotten the 6MT fml )

Why? I hate to say it, but if you were going to want a manual that badly, you should have bought one.

Troyz

11-07-2013 09:03 AM

Moderate Driving

I don't need to break in at 33,000Mi but with all Torque available I seldom have to bring the RPM beyond 5,250RPM to do circles around traffic when I commute to work.

kenchan

11-07-2013 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElVee (Post 2558818)

its amazing how people still crash with vdc on.... :ugh: how? not sure. just left off the gas and brake, but people tend to panic or something and tries to throttle themselves out ending up in a ditch, up a tree, a pole, house, signs, mailboxes, cars, buses, trailers, candy vans, bushes, ponds, etc.

NissanGuy23

11-07-2013 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 2558829)

http://pluckyoutoo.files.wordpress.c...-candy-van.jpg

Ive ended up crashing into candy vans far too many times and ended up needing a ride. And we all know what happens when you turn VDC OFF, dont do it

Streetlife

11-07-2013 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElVee (Post 2558818)

"Driving hard" is going to be a relative measure. For me, driving hard is something you can't do on public roads without going to illegal speeds. The Z is a performance car. You can take a Fiesta out on the roads and push it to its limits and still be relatively legal and safe 9and have loads of fun!). The Z has more performance than that. It will get into illegal territory quickly and/or become unsafe on the roads. I know, that's not what you want to hear, but it's reality. :)

Still, you can have *loads* of fun with this car and still be relatively legal on public roads. Just the looks alone can let you strut around like you're bigger than Prince.

What's wrong with the 7AT? There are certainly people who want the visceral feedback and involvement that a clutch gives them, and that's perfectly fine. But our 7AT comes with a manual mode which allows you to get roughly the same driving effect, just without the mechanical involvement. And the shifts are faster.

We can get into the whole discussion on whether you should drive a car "hard" from the start, or if you should follow the factory spec in the manual and be easy on it for the first 1200 miles. I lean more towards this argument: Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power. In the end, it's your car and neither of us are likely master engineers, so you choose what you'd like to do. :)

(I know, the page looks like it was made in 1996 on Geocities. But it's still valid advice.)

If you've not been over 6500 rpms, you're not driving it hard. Driving hard should at least include teasing the marked redline.

Leave VDC on, first of all. Take it off if you know high performance driving and/or are on a closed course. Otherwise, as mentioned above, this car has enough performance to get you into unsafe territory in a flash.

The Z has great balance to learn and learn to enjoy turns with. It loves turns and has really great balance and grip for it, as long as you don't lose the tail too early with too much throttle. If you're on a closed course, you can play with the tail behavior crazy well.

Adjust your side mirrors co you cover your blind spots as much as you can. This usually means flaring them out a little bit more than you'd use on most cars (at least that applies to me...). We have awful blind spots that you need to protect yourself from.

Beyond that, if you can safely drive a car, you can drive the Z. :) It's not a minivan; you won't floor it after every light and may not floor it much at all on public roads, and it'll still be fun.

That said, drive within your budget as well, that is gas and tire expense, as well as your insurance. Don't hoon around if you can't absorb the tickets.

Why? I hate to say it, but if you were going to want a manual that badly, you should have bought one.

:iagree:, it's funny to me how the 7AT in the 370z doesn't get the props it deserves for how amazing it actually is for a single clutch automatic transmission. People have no problem driving a GT-R (dual clutch automatic transmission), Ferrari 458 Italia (dual clutch automatic transmission) , Lexus LFA (single clutch automatic transmission) and a Lamborghini Aventador (single clutch automatic transmission too), these get all the praise no problem, but if you've driven them and the 370z in 7AT you'll notice the shift speeds are not that different at all. I give props to actual engineering genius creations from R&D regardless of the badge the vehicle has on it (SRM in the manual is another, and DRM in the 7AT)! I love my 7AT, ordered my girl Vanity that way for a reason!:happydance:

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