Please convince me to buy a Z!

nhbpcivicsi · 11-01-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I've got $10 that says you end up like the vast majority of people here, and within a year or so you've done the usual intake/cats/catback/tune combo. It's too easy to be at 325whp or so, and you can't have less power than your previous car. It's not an upgrade if it isn't more powerful.

whats the stock whp like on the Z? i've always wondered..

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Originally Posted by zae757

When I purchased my 370, I kept my honda civic 04; I drive the honda so I can realize of how much of a good decision I made. The maintenance is more of course but your speaking of a sports car compared to a honda. Maintenance is not going to be where the cost comes into play, it's the upgrades. I've had mine for about a year and a half and already dropped over 5k into the car...it's a definite must, but I'd suggest to have a second beater car or something...

I dont understand why most people on here have the Z and a second beater, the only way that you would need a second car is if you live somewhere where is snows a whole lot..

Chuck33079 · 11-01-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi

whats the stock whp like on the Z? i've always wondered..

Usually around 280whp/230trq on a dynojet.

brucelidat · 11-01-2013, 02:01 PM

There's no way he stays stock if he gets the Z. I agree he will most likely dot he CAI/HFC/CBE combo with a tune or at the very least a CBE. 325 whp isn't that easy to get though. If he goes TPs or LTHs he might get there on a cool day.

kenchan · 11-01-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi

i dont see why it cant be comparable at this level? maybe not a better overall car but definitely comparable??

besides accelerating straight, wat are you comparing? the civic and Z are like apples to oranges.

if you're still into that heavy modding scheme, chances are you should probably stay where you are until you're satisified (or worn out), maybe even consider getting a sti/evo and play with that first before getting the Z.

otherwise you probably wont understand why the Z is the way it is and might not enjoy the car as much.

Joepro · 11-01-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi

whats the stock whp like on the Z? i've always wondered..

I dont understand why most people on here have the Z and a second beater, the only way that you would need a second car is if you live somewhere where is snows a whole lot..

Good old PA... I have a beater civic too. Z is going to sleep this weekend. Sometimes you need beck seats....

BeemaaZ · 11-01-2013, 02:51 PM

Ummmm.... Let's do a "visual" comparison. Your b@d@@s Si and a stock 370Z.

kenchan · 11-01-2013, 02:53 PM

tires would be wat, 225 vs 285 ?

Tazicon · 11-01-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi

lol i knew as soon as i mention this everybody would go crazy.. u guys just hate civics and their drivers dont you? i didn't want the fact that my Si is supercharged to play any deciding factor in my decision. And what i meant by 'the Z not being as quick' is probably just because im not used to a RWD. i expected it to be similar to what i have but obviously it was very different, not necessarily a bad thing, it just takes time getting used to

Didn't mean to be rude but I really don't give a crap what kind of HP a car has. It means absolutely nothing except as a form of seeing what your mods are doing for you. Every dyno reads differently and even the same dyno can read different on different days. Also I have seen numbers that you know the operator screwed with. What I am getting at is WHP means nothing really to anyone but you. If you showed a time slip with a 12 second 1/4 mile I would be much more impressed.

ABQautoxer · 11-01-2013, 04:22 PM

FWIW I've owned a lot of cars and recently test drove several 370z and I get what you mean that it doesnt feel as fast as you would expect. It is because it has the most linear power delivery possible so you never get a surge and that lack of surge makes it feel slow. To prove the point, try to out accelerate something to give you relative speed such as passing on the highway. It is then you really can tell it has the power, its just a bit too smooth to feel powerful. This is part of why people usually love turbo's even if the ultimate power delivery is low, when they surge on boost, it feels much faster than it is.

One big thing you should notice between your Si and the Z is highway cruising.

EDIT: I should add it is also a very tall geared car, especially in 2nd which is as tall as a C5 Z06 with 130 less torque.

edub370 · 11-01-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi

I dont understand why most people on here have the Z and a second beater, the only way that you would need a second car is if you live somewhere where is snows a whole lot..

because the Z (for me at least) is a weekend/toy car. wanna keep it nice, keep the miles low, and not have to get it out in crappy weather or rack up the miles on it.

i know some people dont get that. But by doing that, every time i do get a chance to drive the Z, its like a "special" opportunity, and it keeps the car feeling new and exciting longer. IMO

andre12031948 · 11-01-2013, 05:11 PM

After reading the op's post, I learned that the people here are very nice, much nicer than me. That's because I don't give a F if he buys a z or not. At least I learned something

Zbrah · 11-01-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

After reading the op's post, I learned that the people here are very nice, much nicer than me. That's because I don't give a F if he buys a z or not. At least I learned something

Driftomodachi · 11-01-2013, 06:13 PM

LOLOL I came from zilvia

nhbpcivicsi · 11-01-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BeemaaZ

Ummmm.... Let's do a "visual" comparison. Your b@d@@s Si and a stock 370Z.

what's your point? for all you know my car might look 100 times better than yours! not just cuz I have a civic and you have a Z you can assume that yours automatically look better.. people have different tastes you know..

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Originally Posted by ABQautoxer

FWIW I've owned a lot of cars and recently test drove several 370z and I get what you mean that it doesnt feel as fast as you would expect. It is because it has the most linear power delivery possible so you never get a surge and that lack of surge makes it feel slow. To prove the point, try to out accelerate something to give you relative speed such as passing on the highway. It is then you really can tell it has the power, its just a bit too smooth to feel powerful. This is part of why people usually love turbo's even if the ultimate power delivery is low, when they surge on boost, it feels much faster than it is.

One big thing you should notice between your Si and the Z is highway cruising.

EDIT: I should add it is also a very tall geared car, especially in 2nd which is as tall as a C5 Z06 with 130 less torque.

couldn't have said it better! im not sure how I felt when I drove it that's why I wanna drive it again tomorrow to confirm

Driftomodachi · 11-01-2013, 06:51 PM

I drove a Mugen Si and it was a lot of fun. The car is quick and I LOVE hitting VTEC yo! But in the end the z is way more fun because of the power, handling and speed. Which leads back to the point: Drive both and decide on your own if you have a brain and emotions you should be able to figure it out

11-01-2013, 02:01 PM	#123 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 30	There's no way he stays stock if he gets the Z. I agree he will most likely dot he CAI/HFC/CBE combo with a tune or at the very least a CBE. 325 whp isn't that easy to get though. If he goes TPs or LTHs he might get there on a cool day. __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

11-01-2013, 02:51 PM	#126 (permalink)
BeemaaZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Irvine, CA Posts: 2,594 Drives: 40thAE#472 Rep Power: 507	Ummmm.... Let's do a "visual" comparison. Your b@d@@s Si and a stock 370Z. __________________ SoCal 40th Meet Old & New Mods Steering Lock RECALL**** Own 40th 370Z? Get the build # and the Manuf. date here

11-01-2013, 04:22 PM	#129 (permalink)
ABQautoxer Base Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 11 Drives: 2013 WRX Rep Power: 11	FWIW I've owned a lot of cars and recently test drove several 370z and I get what you mean that it doesnt feel as fast as you would expect. It is because it has the most linear power delivery possible so you never get a surge and that lack of surge makes it feel slow. To prove the point, try to out accelerate something to give you relative speed such as passing on the highway. It is then you really can tell it has the power, its just a bit too smooth to feel powerful. This is part of why people usually love turbo's even if the ultimate power delivery is low, when they surge on boost, it feels much faster than it is. One big thing you should notice between your Si and the Z is highway cruising. EDIT: I should add it is also a very tall geared car, especially in 2nd which is as tall as a C5 Z06 with 130 less torque. waaaasabi and edub370 like this. Last edited by ABQautoxer; 11-01-2013 at 04:31 PM.

11-01-2013, 05:11 PM	#131 (permalink)
andre12031948 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: monticello new york 127 Posts: 1,095 Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t Rep Power: 0	I was just curious, then I learned something After reading the op's post, I learned that the people here are very nice, much nicer than me. That's because I don't give a F if he buys a z or not. At least I learned something Zbrah likes this. Last edited by andre12031948; 11-01-2013 at 05:14 PM.

11-01-2013, 06:51 PM	#135 (permalink)
Driftomodachi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Cerritos, CA Posts: 482 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 13	I drove a Mugen Si and it was a lot of fun. The car is quick and I LOVE hitting VTEC yo! But in the end the z is way more fun because of the power, handling and speed. Which leads back to the point: Drive both and decide on your own if you have a brain and emotions you should be able to figure it out Last edited by Driftomodachi; 11-01-2013 at 06:53 PM.

11-01-2013, 02:53 PM	#127 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	tires would be wat, 225 vs 285 ?

11-01-2013, 06:13 PM	#133 (permalink)
Driftomodachi Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Cerritos, CA Posts: 482 Drives: 2010 40th Rep Power: 13	LOLOL I came from zilvia

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