Please convince me to buy a Z!

kenchan · 11-01-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi

i dont see why it cant be comparable at this level? maybe not a better overall car but definitely comparable??

besides accelerating straight, wat are you comparing? the civic and Z are like apples to oranges.

if you're still into that heavy modding scheme, chances are you should probably stay where you are until you're satisified (or worn out), maybe even consider getting a sti/evo and play with that first before getting the Z.

otherwise you probably wont understand why the Z is the way it is and might not enjoy the car as much.

kenchan · 11-01-2013, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by waaaasabi

I don't necessarily think that people here hate Civics or their drivers. I own a Civic and a 370z, and have driven a few Si's (with varying levels of modification).

And I also think that the fact that you've SC'd your Si should play a significant factor in your decision. Here's why: At 295WHP you probably are just as quick as, and perhaps even quicker than, a stock 370Z off the line... but the problem is with the inherent limitations of the Civic's chassis and drivetrain configuration. The Si is going to need quite a bit of suspension work to manage the same power as the Z; you're probably going to experience a lot of understeer and a ton of bodyroll if you try to follow the Z through turns & twisties. So really, with a SC, you're already nearing the precipice of performance & driveability in your Si; try to try push the Z, beyond just straight-line acceleration, and you'll see the difference. It's just a higher platform, performance-wise.

Tazicon · 11-01-2013, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi

lol i knew as soon as i mention this everybody would go crazy.. u guys just hate civics and their drivers dont you? i didn't want the fact that my Si is supercharged to play any deciding factor in my decision. And what i meant by 'the Z not being as quick' is probably just because im not used to a RWD. i expected it to be similar to what i have but obviously it was very different, not necessarily a bad thing, it just takes time getting used to

Didn't mean to be rude but I really don't give a crap what kind of HP a car has. It means absolutely nothing except as a form of seeing what your mods are doing for you. Every dyno reads differently and even the same dyno can read different on different days. Also I have seen numbers that you know the operator screwed with. What I am getting at is WHP means nothing really to anyone but you. If you showed a time slip with a 12 second 1/4 mile I would be much more impressed.

Joepro · 11-01-2013, 10:10 AM

My friends have civics, one is build beyond your wildest dreams, has 15k in it. Another has an 11 second Neon...at the end of the day I am driving a Z and they are driving soup cans...no offense, there are good friends and co workers, and we all respect each others tastes and cars, the OE clutch sucks in the 370z, that is no joke. Im at 322 whp NA and really happy, boost is in the future, but IMO Slow Z>fast civic.

BeemaaZ · 11-01-2013, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Joepro

My friends have civics, one is build beyond your wildest dreams, has 15k in it. Another has an 11 second Neon...at the end of the day I am driving a Z and they are driving soup cans...no offense, there are good friends and co workers, and we all respect each others tastes and cars, the OE clutch sucks in the 370z, that is no joke. Im at 322 whp NA and really happy, boost is in the future, but IMO Slow Z>fast civic.

Sounds like you need to get an RJM clutch pedal assembly. You won't regret it.

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Elan · 11-01-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Joepro

My friends have civics, one is build beyond your wildest dreams, has 15k in it. Another has an 11 second Neon...at the end of the day I am driving a Z and they are driving soup cans...no offense, there are good friends and co workers, and we all respect each others tastes and cars, the OE clutch sucks in the 370z, that is no joke. Im at 322 whp NA and really happy, boost is in the future, but IMO Slow Z>fast civic.

I don't hate on anyone for their choice in cars (Unless it's super ricey). My friend has an SI and its a cool little car, but at the end of the day it's a Honda and it ain't no sports car. The 370Z looks 1000000 times better. It has that real sporty look to it. Yes it isn't the fastest car in the world, but you will be blown away by the looks and compliments that you get. People think my Nismo is a 60k car lol. You may have a fast Civic, but I can also SC a VW Beetle and have it blow Vettes out of the water. At the end of the day, again it's still a VW.

If you want a Sports Car, get the Z. Like Joepro said Slow Z > Fast Civic. Girls will agree.

Plus its RWD.

shawnski · 11-01-2013, 10:19 AM

i work for honda dealership for many years, drove many si, nice car but there is not any comparison to 370 z from the look, the handling the 3.7 v6 engine etc.. etc..just different class.. when you drive a z you are driving a true sport car and best money you invested for what you get..
that vtech to me is a waste of technology, go get you a z bro you won't be diappointed, not a bit...
i don't know how much you are trying to get for your trade but dealers don't care much about supercharged or modified cars, it can actually hurt your trade in value of the car because of reliability reasons..dealers don't won't to mess with that...your best bet is to sell it to individual as a private party who has interest on modified cars, that is where you can get the most money for your trade.. good luck

Joepro · 11-01-2013, 10:59 AM

For FYI I have a southbend clutch and flywheel with zspeed CSC with helper spring and I'm happy... I'm also a Honda service advisor... I like civics but not as sports cars... Without way more work that our zs need.

zae757 · 11-01-2013, 01:44 PM

When I purchased my 370, I kept my honda civic 04; I drive the honda so I can realize of how much of a good decision I made. The maintenance is more of course but your speaking of a sports car compared to a honda. Maintenance is not going to be where the cost comes into play, it's the upgrades. I've had mine for about a year and a half and already dropped over 5k into the car...it's a definite must, but I'd suggest to have a second beater car or something...

nhbpcivicsi · 11-01-2013, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

I've got $10 that says you end up like the vast majority of people here, and within a year or so you've done the usual intake/cats/catback/tune combo. It's too easy to be at 325whp or so, and you can't have less power than your previous car. It's not an upgrade if it isn't more powerful.

whats the stock whp like on the Z? i've always wondered..

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Originally Posted by zae757

When I purchased my 370, I kept my honda civic 04; I drive the honda so I can realize of how much of a good decision I made. The maintenance is more of course but your speaking of a sports car compared to a honda. Maintenance is not going to be where the cost comes into play, it's the upgrades. I've had mine for about a year and a half and already dropped over 5k into the car...it's a definite must, but I'd suggest to have a second beater car or something...

I dont understand why most people on here have the Z and a second beater, the only way that you would need a second car is if you live somewhere where is snows a whole lot..

Chuck33079 · 11-01-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi

whats the stock whp like on the Z? i've always wondered..

Usually around 280whp/230trq on a dynojet.

Joepro · 11-01-2013, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi

whats the stock whp like on the Z? i've always wondered..

I dont understand why most people on here have the Z and a second beater, the only way that you would need a second car is if you live somewhere where is snows a whole lot..

Good old PA... I have a beater civic too. Z is going to sleep this weekend. Sometimes you need beck seats....

edub370 · 11-01-2013, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by nhbpcivicsi

I dont understand why most people on here have the Z and a second beater, the only way that you would need a second car is if you live somewhere where is snows a whole lot..

because the Z (for me at least) is a weekend/toy car. wanna keep it nice, keep the miles low, and not have to get it out in crappy weather or rack up the miles on it.

i know some people dont get that. But by doing that, every time i do get a chance to drive the Z, its like a "special" opportunity, and it keeps the car feeling new and exciting longer. IMO

andre12031948 · 11-01-2013, 05:11 PM

After reading the op's post, I learned that the people here are very nice, much nicer than me. That's because I don't give a F if he buys a z or not. At least I learned something

Zbrah · 11-01-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by andre12031948

After reading the op's post, I learned that the people here are very nice, much nicer than me. That's because I don't give a F if he buys a z or not. At least I learned something

11-01-2013, 10:10 AM	#4 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 35	My friends have civics, one is build beyond your wildest dreams, has 15k in it. Another has an 11 second Neon...at the end of the day I am driving a Z and they are driving soup cans...no offense, there are good friends and co workers, and we all respect each others tastes and cars, the OE clutch sucks in the 370z, that is no joke. Im at 322 whp NA and really happy, boost is in the future, but IMO Slow Z>fast civic. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

11-01-2013, 10:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
shawnski Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: houston,tx Age: 68 Posts: 71 Drives: 12 zx14r, 12 370z Rep Power: 12	i work for honda dealership for many years, drove many si, nice car but there is not any comparison to 370 z from the look, the handling the 3.7 v6 engine etc.. etc..just different class.. when you drive a z you are driving a true sport car and best money you invested for what you get.. that vtech to me is a waste of technology, go get you a z bro you won't be diappointed, not a bit... i don't know how much you are trying to get for your trade but dealers don't care much about supercharged or modified cars, it can actually hurt your trade in value of the car because of reliability reasons..dealers don't won't to mess with that...your best bet is to sell it to individual as a private party who has interest on modified cars, that is where you can get the most money for your trade.. good luck Last edited by shawnski; 11-01-2013 at 10:28 AM.

11-01-2013, 10:59 AM	#8 (permalink)
Joepro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Athens ohio Posts: 1,213 Drives: Company car Rep Power: 35	For FYI I have a southbend clutch and flywheel with zspeed CSC with helper spring and I'm happy... I'm also a Honda service advisor... I like civics but not as sports cars... Without way more work that our zs need. __________________ Swift\|Koni\|SPC\| FI CBE\|Z1\|Stillen\|Sbend\|Zspeed\|R/T Tuned\|523 whp\|458 tq\|10.5 psi\|SOLD Joepro's Journal\|Joepro's Boosted Performance Build \|Pittsburgh-Western-Pa-Ohio-Wv-Group

11-01-2013, 05:11 PM	#14 (permalink)
andre12031948 Banned Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: monticello new york 127 Posts: 1,095 Drives: 08 350z black 6m/t Rep Power: 0	I was just curious, then I learned something After reading the op's post, I learned that the people here are very nice, much nicer than me. That's because I don't give a F if he buys a z or not. At least I learned something Zbrah likes this. Last edited by andre12031948; 11-01-2013 at 05:14 PM.

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