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Originally Posted by StangerGT First... if you pay MSRP for a car... your an idiot... Second... 29k? might want to do some homework. (i swear the price keeps going up

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Old 11-04-2013, 04:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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First... if you pay MSRP for a car... your an idiot...

Second... 29k? might want to do some homework. (i swear the price keeps going up and up as this thread continues)
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agreed with the MSRP = idiot thing, but with scion, im not sure about subaru, they have no haggle pricing. no dealership will go lower than the next. the only way to get a deal is to fall into the, graduating student category for 500 off, or some other promo going on. which makes the FRS at 25-26K pretty pricey...
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agreed with the MSRP = idiot thing, but with scion, im not sure about subaru, they have no haggle pricing. no dealership will go lower than the next. the only way to get a deal is to fall into the, graduating student category for 500 off, or some other promo going on. which makes the FRS at 25-26K pretty pricey...
And what Stanger is not counting in the $29k is that without the few bullshyt options that scion has. The interior will look like total shyt. In order to make the car look presentable. You're paying $29k.
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And what Stanger is not counting in the $29k is that without the few bullshyt options that scion has. The interior will look like total shyt. In order to make the car look presentable. You're paying $29k.
If you want lux, you automatically steer away from almost any subi... the evo's a rather spartan as well.
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If you want lux, you automatically steer away from almost any subi... the evo's a rather spartan as well.
The EVO has a $17,000 traansmission stuck in it with an extremely advanced AWD system. There are reasons for the chintrzy interior. But that chintzy interior also affected my purchase to buy one new... I'd buy the twins or an Evo used as a beater track car. They aren't good new car values in my opinions and many other opinions... That's why in this world we have a choice where we spend our money.
When z owners say $29k for a FRS BRZ is because they wouldn't go without it being loaded.
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The EVO has a $17,000 traansmission stuck in it with an extremely advanced AWD system. There are reasons for the chintrzy interior. But that chintzy interior also affected my purchase to buy one new... I'd buy the twins or an Evo used as a beater track car. They aren't good new car values in my opinions and many other opinions... That's why in this world we have a choice where we spend our money.
When z owners say $29k for a FRS BRZ is because they wouldn't go without it being loaded.
Different market for different people. BRZ has a lower cost of ownership... cheaper to track... and seems to have a decent/cheap aftermarket for only being out for a short period of time. It was designed to compete with the likes of the miata group.

Is a 370z going to be an overall better car? probably... does everyone here want to feel good about what they own? maybe... does that factor into this argument? im sure... would I buy one over a BRZ? to be honest... no. Do people who care about interiors go for the BASE model (30k) 370z? no... so that comparison is somewhat mute.

As much as im sure everyone here has money to throw around... the price gap between mid 20s and low 30s can be significant. not to include simply the cost of tires, etc.

I personally would find a BRZ (probably used) and in the most basic form. and from there pile on suspension mods, maybe a turbo, and strip it down even more.

And if you want to argue about interiors... my DD is a 15 year old lifted Wrangler with no carpet which often is left out in the rain.

Note: also if you haven't noticed the sn95 I drive... not exactly known for its interior quality...
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Different market for different people. BRZ has a lower cost of ownership... cheaper to track... and seems to have a decent/cheap aftermarket for only being out for a short period of time. It was designed to compete with the likes of the miata group.

Is a 370z going to be an overall better car? probably... does everyone here want to feel good about what they own? maybe... does that factor into this argument? im sure... would I buy one over a BRZ? to be honest... no. Do people who care about interiors go for the BASE model (30k) 370z? no... so that comparison is somewhat mute.

As much as im sure everyone here has money to throw around... the price gap between mid 20s and low 30s can be significant. not to include simply the cost of tires, etc.

I personally would find a BRZ (probably used) and in the most basic form. and from there pile on suspension mods, maybe a turbo, and strip it down even more.

And if you want to argue about interiors... my DD is a 15 year old lifted Wrangler with no carpet which often is left out in the rain.

Note: also if you haven't noticed the sn95 I drive... not exactly known for its interior quality...

The only one really arguing is you man.... We mostly agree it's a good platform at least. I would buy one... The difference between me and you... I'd go used.... You'd buy new... I don't see value in a new brz. But that's just my opinion. It's not meant for you to get butt hurt and argue...
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The only one really arguing is you man.... We mostly agree it's a good platform at least. I would buy one... The difference between me and you... I'd go used.... You'd buy new... I don't see value in a new brz. But that's just my opinion. It's not meant for you to get butt hurt and argue...
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I personally would find a BRZ (probably used)...
I guess I have been talking to myself this whole time then? and this thread evolved from mostly bandwagon hate and generalizations...
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Do people who care about interiors go for the BASE model (30k) 370z? no... so that comparison is somewhat mute.
When I bought my Z in 2009 the only interior difference between base and touring were the seats and the door panel inserts. I specifically bought a base (plus sport) for this exact reason. I knew the stereo was coming out, seats eventually so I essentially would have been paying thousands more for leather door inserts.

I'm not 100% sure differences are still limited to seats, stereo and door inserts on the 2014 Z but I think so. Aside form the seats 90% of the visible interior is the same between base and touring model. So people who care about interiors on this particular car very well might go for the base, the difference is minimal, especially if you plan to put in better seats.
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