Nissan execs diss FRS/BRZ

StangerGT · 10-31-2013, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

All this...

moot. I could make a 10 second Suburban with the right money. They want $29K OTD for this POS. I saw one driving to work this morning...its so funny looking, putzing along on those bicycle tires. pathetic automobile.

First... if you pay MSRP for a car... your an idiot...

Second... 29k? might want to do some homework. (i swear the price keeps going up and up as this thread continues)
Scion FR-S | Prices And Information | Scion.com

Third... you could make a 10 sec suburban with the "right" money... congrats? Will it be reliable for whatever this amount is? Will you have the right support mods or do you just wanna dump some giggle gas into it and blow your engine/tranny/diff?

I priced out a coilover suspension for a brz... 800 bux and its still a rather new platform. Anyone wanna know the price difference between a set of track tires for the BRZ vs your 370z? How bout pads?

Its a good platform... a sharp one at that.

EDIT: tires are also proportional to weight and power... so think about that.

Chuck33079 · 10-31-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

First... if you pay MSRP for a car... your an idiot...

Second... 29k? might want to do some homework. (i swear the price keeps going up and up as this thread continues)
Scion FR-S | Prices And Information | Scion.com

Third... you could make a 10 sec suburban with the "right" money... congrats? Will it be reliable for whatever this amount is? Will you have the right support mods or do you just wanna dump some giggle gas into it and blow your engine/tranny/diff?

I priced out a coilover suspension for a brz... 800 bux and its still a rather new platform. Anyone wanna know the price difference between a set of track tires for the BRZ vs your 370z? How bout pads?

Its a good platform... a sharp one at that.

EDIT: tires are also proportional to weight and power... so think about that.

Agreed, it gets a lot of hate. I don't really understand. It's proof the auto industry is moving back in the "fun to drive" direction. Now other manufacturers will bring their light rwd vehicles to market. It's a win for enthusiasts.

UNKNOWN_370 · 10-31-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Agreed, it gets a lot of hate. I don't really understand. It's proof the auto industry is moving back in the "fun to drive" direction. Now other manufacturers will bring their light rwd vehicles to market. It's a win for enthusiasts.

I can definitely agree with this in concept. Just having another sports car on the set helps the market.

Chuck33079 · 11-01-2013, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I can definitely agree with this in concept. Just having another sports car on the set helps the market.

Exactly. It seems like people are either too young to remember or have already forgotten the years after they killed the Supra/300ZX/3000GT/RX7 where your only option for a sporty car was either a Vette/Mustang/Camaro or something fwd.

More options for buyers drives competition, and competition gives us more choices.

Firebase99 · 11-01-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

First... if you pay MSRP for a car... your an idiot...

Second... 29k? might want to do some homework. (i swear the price keeps going up and up as this thread continues)
Scion FR-S | Prices And Information | Scion.com

Third... you could make a 10 sec suburban with the "right" money... congrats? Will it be reliable for whatever this amount is? Will you have the right support mods or do you just wanna dump some giggle gas into it and blow your engine/tranny/diff?

I priced out a coilover suspension for a brz... 800 bux and its still a rather new platform. Anyone wanna know the price difference between a set of track tires for the BRZ vs your 370z? How bout pads?

Its a good platform... a sharp one at that.

EDIT: tires are also proportional to weight and power... so think about that.

It was a BRZ for $29 not an FRS. Never said it would be reliable either. Try tinkering with that little 2.0 that **** box has, need some work on the internals to make power, with questionable reliability. And who the f*ck cares about ANY of this sh*t???! My point was out of the box for $29 is a major rip off for this car. Praise the chassis all you want, ive said it before...a FUN handling car is not necessarily a well handling car. Big difference. Whats so "sharp" about the platform? That it gives you confidence to step the tail out at 15mph? If those itty bitty tires were any smaller Id expect to see a friggin horse and carriage pulling that "sharp" platform. Its expensive, the interior is hideous, its gutless in any gear at any RPM, it has no grip whatsover and its so overpriced i find it hard to believe all the dbags who actually bought this marketing ploy.

Chuck33079 · 11-01-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

It was a BRZ for $29 not an FRS. Never said it would be reliable either. Try tinkering with that little 2.0 that **** box has, need some work on the internals to make power, with questionable reliability. And who the f*ck cares about ANY of this sh*t???! My point was out of the box for $29 is a major rip off for this car. Praise the chassis all you want, ive said it before...a FUN handling car is not necessarily a well handling car. Big difference. Whats so "sharp" about the platform? That it gives you confidence to step the tail out at 15mph? If those itty bitty tires were any smaller Id expect to see a friggin horse and carriage pulling that "sharp" platform. Its expensive, the interior is hideous, its gutless in any gear at any RPM, it has no grip whatsover and its so overpriced i find it hard to believe all the dbags who actually bought this marketing ploy.

You're really emotionally invested in hating this car. Show us on the doll where the BRZ touched you.

Firebase99 · 11-01-2013, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

You're really emotionally invested in hating this car. Show us on the doll where the BRZ touched you.

I know, I have it in for this turd. It just rubs me the wrong way, what the ads say....trying desperately for you to believe this is the 2nd coming.

StangerGT · 11-01-2013, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

I know, I have it in for this turd. It just rubs me the wrong way, what the ads say....trying desperately for you to believe this is the 2nd coming.

Are you so emotionally involved with your 370... the simple idea that this "could" compete (even though its not designed to) offends you? Check that ego sir... its unbecoming of you. oh and stop being such a fanboy...

Firebase99 · 11-01-2013, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

Are you so emotionally involved with your 370... the simple idea that this "could" compete (even though its not designed to) offends you? Check that ego sir... its unbecoming of you. oh and stop being such a fanboy...

I am the antonym of a nissan nut hugger. The 370...cool car. Its definitely not the end all, be all of vehicles. Its what I wanted in my price range. IMO a decent bang for your buck, not the greatest. I really want a 2014 911 Turbo S as well as a gold plated shitter, some things just arent in the cards.

StangerGT · 11-01-2013, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

It was a BRZ for $29 not an FRS. Never said it would be reliable either. Try tinkering with that little 2.0 that **** box has, need some work on the internals to make power, with questionable reliability. And who the f*ck cares about ANY of this sh*t???! My point was out of the box for $29 is a major rip off for this car. Praise the chassis all you want, ive said it before...a FUN handling car is not necessarily a well handling car. Big difference. Whats so "sharp" about the platform? That it gives you confidence to step the tail out at 15mph? If those itty bitty tires were any smaller Id expect to see a friggin horse and carriage pulling that "sharp" platform. Its expensive, the interior is hideous, its gutless in any gear at any RPM, it has no grip whatsover and its so overpriced i find it hard to believe all the dbags who actually bought this marketing ploy.

Thus far the discussion has been about "the twins" ..hence the FR-S post. but if you really want to get into specifics

Subaru BRZ | The New 2014 BRZ Sports Car

and I think its sharp as the interior is spartan, the exterior looks good (very clean), parts seem cheap and overall I think it will be a nice compact sporty car... maybe a power adder, pads, and some tires (to handle the increased power) is all you need...

Firebase99 · 11-01-2013, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by StangerGT

Thus far the discussion has been about "the twins" ..hence the FR-S post. but if you really want to get into specifics

Subaru BRZ | The New 2014 BRZ Sports Car

and I think its sharp as the interior is spartan, the exterior looks good (very clean), parts seem cheap and overall I think it will be a nice compact sporty car... maybe a power adder, pads, and some tires (to handle the increased power) is all you need...

Alright, thats fine. I could ALMOST agree IF the OTD was around $21K. Now THAT would be a great, fun, inexpensive DD. Really, though at close to $29 for a BRZ, now with Nissan rebates, its like a grand less than a base Z. Thats unacceptable because they are very different vehicles in different classes.

Chuck33079 · 11-01-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Firebase99

Alright, thats fine. I could ALMOST agree IF the OTD was around $21K. Now THAT would be a great, fun, inexpensive DD. Really, though at close to $29 for a BRZ, now with Nissan rebates, its like a grand less than a base Z. Thats unacceptable because they are very different vehicles in different classes.

Unacceptable to you. Considering they're outselling Zs 3 to 1, many people disagree with you.

kenchan · 11-01-2013, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Unacceptable to you. Considering they're outselling Zs 3 to 1, many people disagree with you.

i'd be funny if nissan started offering 370Z wagons for the sorta poor.

Firebase99 · 11-01-2013, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

i'd be funny if nissan started offering 370Z wagons for the sorta poor.

E37?

Firebase99 · 11-01-2013, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079

Unacceptable to you. Considering they're outselling Zs 3 to 1, many people disagree with you.

You should add to that ratio, go drop $30 large on a Twin. They do look adorable in the rear view mirror of my sisters mini van.

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